I have applied for a job but there is a 10 hour night restriction in place. This is the only company I have come across who have opted into it 
Is there any way round it?
yeah dont go to the interview . 
TROTSKY3:
yeah dont go to the interview .
Its good money and close to home. What concerns me is that the job is 9 hours per night in an ideal world. Easily achievable but things can go wrong and the diversion is near enough a 9 hour drive. This is where the 10 hour rule could be a problem
Don’t forget as well that it’s not restricted to 10 hours per shift but 10 hours in any 24 hour period so delays could also affect the starting time of your next shift.
Things going wrong are inevitable in this job.But surely it is’nt going
to happen that often.And it sounds ok.So i would go for it.
Use of PoA and breaks correctly and you can still do a 15hr spreadover even without the 10hr opt-out depending on the type of work you do. I do the odd pallet network run starting at 7pm and finishing at 8.30am and I barely get more than 8hrs a night work, the rest being PoA and break.
My personal view is you don’t really want to be doing much more than 10-11hrs on nights anyway.
All it takes is an incident. A few weeks ago the A77 was closed at Girvan due to a landslide. There is a more local diversion but that was closed for the same reason which meant M74/A75 instead which is far longer. I gave up that same job for a different company a couple of months ago so I wasn’t affected but I do have friends doing it so I know how much of a pain it is. They are not employed though so they don’t have to worry about the 10 hour limit. I am not currently employed so it doesn’t affect me now but it will if I get the job. The normal route is just under 3 hours each way. I believe its nearer 4.5 going the long way which leaves not much time for hooking up, checks, trailer swap, drop and fuel up 
What it boils down to is, do you want the job or not? You cannot legislate for every possible problem that might arise during any shift, if you tried you wouldn’t leave the house. Of course some time you might run into a problem that takes you over 10 hrs, ■■■■happens, it’s called life.
I’m currently on a job that, under normal circumstances, takes 8.5 hrs in total, 7 hrs driving. This week I broke down on Monday night & the shift took 14 hrs, Tuesday & Wednesday it took 10hrs due to the wind closing the forth road bridge. It happens.
What can the do if you go over 10? As we used to say when I was in the army in NI, what’s the worst that could happen? They can’t get me pregnant, they can’t turn me black & they can’t send me to Ireland.
BillyHunt:
What it boils down to is, do you want the job or not? You cannot legislate for every possible problem that might arise during any shift, if you tried you wouldn’t leave the house. Of course some time you might run into a problem that takes you over 10 hrs, [zb] happens, it’s called life.
I’m currently on a job that, under normal circumstances, takes 8.5 hrs in total, 7 hrs driving. This week I broke down on Monday night & the shift took 14 hrs, Tuesday & Wednesday it took 10hrs due to the wind closing the forth road bridge. It happens.
What can the do if you go over 10? As we used to say when I was in the army in NI, what’s the worst that could happen? They can’t get me pregnant, they can’t turn me black & they can’t send me to Ireland.
correct my favourite saying too! 
they can ■■■■me, but they can’t make me pregnant
BillyHunt:
What it boils down to is, do you want the job or not? You cannot legislate for every possible problem that might arise during any shift, if you tried you wouldn’t leave the house. Of course some time you might run into a problem that takes you over 10 hrs, [zb] happens, it’s called life.
I’m currently on a job that, under normal circumstances, takes 8.5 hrs in total, 7 hrs driving. This week I broke down on Monday night & the shift took 14 hrs, Tuesday & Wednesday it took 10hrs due to the wind closing the forth road bridge. It happens.
What can the do if you go over 10? As we used to say when I was in the army in NI, what’s the worst that could happen? They can’t get me pregnant, they can’t turn me black & they can’t send me to Ireland.
we dont get a works ticket signed by a SNCO any more though and we arent on log books which were a waste of time on exercise
i jumped ship for work closer to home and far more compliant. instead of being expected to go flat out on the single track roads, i am now expected to stick to speed limits which is another reason for jumping ship. a known road closure is a foreseeable problem and for some reason there is a 10 hour night shift limit in place. i dont know how many runs they need filling but from what i have been told the start times are 1900 to 0200 which means every run falls into the 0000 to 0400 restriction zone
scanny77:
BillyHunt:
What it boils down to is, do you want the job or not? You cannot legislate for every possible problem that might arise during any shift, if you tried you wouldn’t leave the house. Of course some time you might run into a problem that takes you over 10 hrs, [zb] happens, it’s called life.
I’m currently on a job that, under normal circumstances, takes 8.5 hrs in total, 7 hrs driving. This week I broke down on Monday night & the shift took 14 hrs, Tuesday & Wednesday it took 10hrs due to the wind closing the forth road bridge. It happens.
What can the do if you go over 10? As we used to say when I was in the army in NI, what’s the worst that could happen? They can’t get me pregnant, they can’t turn me black & they can’t send me to Ireland.we dont get a works ticket signed by a SNCO any more though and we arent on log books which were a waste of time on exercise
i jumped ship for work closer to home and far more compliant. instead of being expected to go flat out on the single track roads, i am now expected to stick to speed limits which is another reason for jumping ship. a known road closure is a foreseeable problem and for some reason there is a 10 hour night shift limit in place. i dont know how many runs they need filling but from what i have been told the start times are 1900 to 0200 which means every run falls into the 0000 to 0400 restriction zone
Night time hours and limits
Night time working hours are usually between 11pm and 6am - but this can be flexible if agreed between workers and the employer.
The agreement must be in writing. The night time period must:
be 7 hours long
include the period between midnight and 5am
Staff who regularly work for at least 3 hours during this period are night workers. Staff may also be night workers if:
there’s a collective agreement (between the employer and the workers or their representatives) that states what counts as night work
it’s likely that they’ll work a proportion of their annual working time during the night
scanny77:
BillyHunt:
What it boils down to is, do you want the job or not? You cannot legislate for every possible problem that might arise during any shift, if you tried you wouldn’t leave the house. Of course some time you might run into a problem that takes you over 10 hrs, [zb] happens, it’s called life.
I’m currently on a job that, under normal circumstances, takes 8.5 hrs in total, 7 hrs driving. This week I broke down on Monday night & the shift took 14 hrs, Tuesday & Wednesday it took 10hrs due to the wind closing the forth road bridge. It happens.
What can the do if you go over 10? As we used to say when I was in the army in NI, what’s the worst that could happen? They can’t get me pregnant, they can’t turn me black & they can’t send me to Ireland.we dont get a works ticket signed by a SNCO any more though and we arent on log books which were a waste of time on exercise
i jumped ship for work closer to home and far more compliant. instead of being expected to go flat out on the single track roads, i am now expected to stick to speed limits which is another reason for jumping ship. a known road closure is a foreseeable problem and for some reason there is a 10 hour night shift limit in place. i dont know how many runs they need filling but from what i have been told the start times are 1900 to 0200 which means every run falls into the 0000 to 0400 restriction zone
Yes that’s fine, I can understand that. But what happens when something unforeseeable happens & puts you over 10 hrs? It must have happened before and will happen again,that’s a given.
scanny77:
I have applied for a job but there is a 10 hour night restriction in place. This is the only company I have come across who have opted into itIs there any way round it?
I thought you had to opt out, not in.
and isnt it 10 hrs work/driving not spread over, so you can still do 15 hr shifts, or are you talking about something completly different?
nick2008:
Night time hours and limitsNight time working hours are usually between 11pm and 6am - but this can be flexible if agreed between workers and the employer.
The agreement must be in writing. The night time period must:
be 7 hours long
include the period between midnight and 5am
Staff who regularly work for at least 3 hours during this period are night workers. Staff may also be night workers if:
there’s a collective agreement (between the employer and the workers or their representatives) that states what counts as night work
it’s likely that they’ll work a proportion of their annual working time during the night
Those aren’t the rules for the WTD for mobile workers, I think that’s from the WTD for normal folk. For truck drivers you are a night worker if any part of your shift falls between midnight and 04:00, there is no requirement to do 3 hours during this period and ithe night period doesn’t have to be 7 hours long.
I can’t check it at the moment you might be rite coffee…
Drivers Hours
nick2008:
I can’t check it at the moment you’re rite coffee…
Fixed that for you. 
weeto:
scanny77:
I have applied for a job but there is a 10 hour night restriction in place. This is the only company I have come across who have opted into itIs there any way round it?
I thought you had to opt out, not in.
and isnt it 10 hrs work/driving not spread over, so you can still do 15 hr shifts, or are you talking about something completly different?
It is the WTD rule I am talking about and I know rest and POA don’t count but if almost 9 hours is driving then there is little room for working time. Half an hour at the start of the shift and you still have a changeover midway then fuel up etc at the end. It would be very easy to fall foul of the workforce agreement when the A77 between Girvan and Cairnryan is closed and that is what worrys me. I know it is a management problem but it is my tacho and that is my responsibility
Sorry but do you want the job or not, if the money is that good take the thing and cross the 10 hr rule IF something goes wrong.