aec

[Suedehead]

Would this be yours Mr Webb ?

No,mine was PCL 553R fleet 238.That photo was taken at our Barking depot,I've tried to find out who original owner was with that Aberdeen reg.to no avail.There was a meat haulier from Aberdeen,whose name escapes me,that ran Marathons but I think they were all sleepers.

TM Catto ?

[ramone]

Would this be yours Mr Webb ?

No,mine was PCL 553R fleet 238.That photo was taken at our Barking depot,I've tried to find out who original owner was with that Aberdeen reg.to no avail.There was a meat haulier from Aberdeen,whose name escapes me,that ran Marathons but I think they were all sleepers.

TM Catto ?

James McIntosh Wholesale Butchers Aberdeen , if you google the registration the photo of it comes up for sale

[ramone]

Trucks galore is the website Chris

[Chris Webb]

Trucks galore is the website Chris

Thanks Ramone for the info,it was Catto I was thinking of.

[Les Sylphides]

[cav551]

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Nice picture with plenty of detail to comment upon apart from where is it and what year? Is the Austin a Devon, Somerset, Hereford or what? What are the other cars? What cabs are on the BRS lorries? Is the boxvan a Parcels lorry?

The London Tranport RF is on a Green Line route because the destination blind is a light colour. Green Line blinds were Yellow and I think I can just make out that the bus has roof level route boards each side. It also looks about to overtake the convoy (20 mph?) which means that as a limited stop service there are no bus stops for it ahead.

The three lane concrete road surface would hint that this is a major trunk road.

[Les Sylphides]

530dd4cf5d56d2f8d94ac9e94dec04b2.jpg

Nice picture with plenty of detail to comment upon apart from where is it and what year? Is the Austin a Devon, Somerset, Hereford or what? What are the other cars? What cabs are on the BRS lorries? Is the boxvan a Parcels lorry?

The London Tranport RF is on a Green Line route because the destination blind is a light colour. Green Line blinds were Yellow and I think I can just make out that the bus has roof level route boards each side. It also looks about to overtake the convoy (20 mph?) which means that as a limited stop service there are no bus stops for it ahead.

The three lane concrete road surface would hint that this is a major trunk road.

I would think early to mid- '50s and a London suburb. The AEC Mammoth Majors appear to have the same cabs, probably Park Royal. I think that's an Austin Devon, followed by a Wolsely and a Hilman; and what could be a Morris Eight light commercial. As you say, Greenline RF bringing up the rear. Someone will add or correct....

[essexpete]

530dd4cf5d56d2f8d94ac9e94dec04b2.jpg

Nice picture with plenty of detail to comment upon apart from where is it and what year? Is the Austin a Devon, Somerset, Hereford or what? What are the other cars? What cabs are on the BRS lorries? Is the boxvan a Parcels lorry?

The London Tranport RF is on a Green Line route because the destination blind is a light colour. Green Line blinds were Yellow and I think I can just make out that the bus has roof level route boards each side. It also looks about to overtake the convoy (20 mph?) which means that as a limited stop service there are no bus stops for it ahead.

The three lane concrete road surface would hint that this is a major trunk road.

Crikey! Could it be something like the North Circular? Reckon the Austin is an A40 Devon?

[ERF-NGC-European]

[Kempston]

530dd4cf5d56d2f8d94ac9e94dec04b2.jpg

Nice picture with plenty of detail to comment upon apart from where is it and what year? Is the Austin a Devon, Somerset, Hereford or what? What are the other cars? What cabs are on the BRS lorries? Is the boxvan a Parcels lorry?

The London Tranport RF is on a Green Line route because the destination blind is a light colour. Green Line blinds were Yellow and I think I can just make out that the bus has roof level route boards each side. It also looks about to overtake the convoy (20 mph?) which means that as a limited stop service there are no bus stops for it ahead.

The three lane concrete road surface would hint that this is a major trunk road.

Crikey! Could it be something like the North Circular? Reckon the Austin is an A40 Devon?

My instant thoughts were the north circular Pete, the only seed of doubt I have is the houses are semis whereas from memory most of them are terraced.??

[cav551]

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My instant thoughts were the north circular Pete, the only seed of doubt I have is the houses are semis whereas from memory most of them are terraced.??

Having had a look at a 1952 bus map I'm not seeing any Green Line Routes along the North Circular either. Looking at Street View there are similar Semis along Western Avenue, but not identical - these houses are quite distinctive with their tile hung bay windows. I've got the Austin.

[andrew.s]

My first thought was north circ,but also looks a bit like the A1 coming down to Apex corner to me-was it three lanes back then?

[andrew.s]

A1 Barnet way….

[cav551]

I have tried looking for the section of road without success. There have been huge changes over the decades with large numbers of houses being demolished to make way for road alterations..

I am no nearer with the AEC cabs though since I can't find the copy of Classic & Vintage Commerciasl which had an article about AEC cabs.

I have worked out the Austin though. It is not an A40 Devon which has the headlights directly above the sidelights and further outboard . Its grille splits in half with the upper half lifting with the bonnet. That means it is not the two door Dorset either. The Somerset has the sidelights on top of the wings and inboard headlights. It also has a vertically bowed grille which doesn't partially lift with the much smaller bonnet, it has louvres across the front beside the grille . The larger A70 Hereford is similar to the Somerset, both of which had a different shaped rear end to the Devon & Hampshire. The car is an A70 Hampshire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_A7 ... _front.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_A7 ... n_Park.JPG

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_A4 ... d_1954.JPG

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_A4 ... 952_01.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_A4 ... t_(1947-49)_(30363407003).jpg

[ERF-NGC-European]

I have tried looking for the section of road without success. There have been huge changes over the decades with large numbers of houses being demolished to make way for road alterations..

I am no nearer with the AEC cabs though since I can't find the copy of Classic & Vintage Commerciasl which had an article about AEC cabs.

I have worked out the Austin though. It is not an A40 Devon which has the headlights directly above the sidelights and further outboard . Its grille splits in half with the upper half lifting with the bonnet. That means it is not the two door Dorset either. The Somerset has the sidelights on top of the wings and inboard headlights. It also has a vertically bowed grille which doesn't partially lift with the much smaller bonnet, it has louvres across the front beside the grille . The larger A70 Hereford is similar to the Somerset, both of which had a different shaped rear end to the Devon & Hampshire. The car is an A70 Hampshire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_A7 ... _front.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_A7 ... n_Park.JPG

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_A4 ... d_1954.JPG

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_A4 ... 952_01.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_A4 ... t_(1947-49)_(30363407003).jpg

Well identified!

[essexpete]

I have tried looking for the section of road without success. There have been huge changes over the decades with large numbers of houses being demolished to make way for road alterations..

I am no nearer with the AEC cabs though since I can't find the copy of Classic & Vintage Commerciasl which had an article about AEC cabs.

I have worked out the Austin though. It is not an A40 Devon which has the headlights directly above the sidelights and further outboard . Its grille splits in half with the upper half lifting with the bonnet. That means it is not the two door Dorset either. The Somerset has the sidelights on top of the wings and inboard headlights. It also has a vertically bowed grille which doesn't partially lift with the much smaller bonnet, it has louvres across the front beside the grille . The larger A70 Hereford is similar to the Somerset, both of which had a different shaped rear end to the Devon & Hampshire. The car is an A70 Hampshire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_A7 ... _front.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_A7 ... n_Park.JPG

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_A4 ... d_1954.JPG

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_A4 ... 952_01.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_A4 ... t_(1947-49)_(30363407003).jpg

[Geordielad]

CAV 551 Wrote,
I am no nearer with the AEC cabs though since I can't find the copy of Classic & Vintage Commercials which had an article about AEC cabs.

The AEC's are MkIII Mammoth Major Eights. The cabs themselves are coachbuilt by a number of companies that carried out this work around the country. Only the chassis and front scuttle would be taken to the customers chosen Coachbuilder for the cab and body to be built and fitted following AEC prints. The later ''Tin Front' models were still MkIII's but had the rounded front to give the model an updated look. Both models here. Franky.

[Chris Webb]

CAV 551 Wrote,
I am no nearer with the AEC cabs though since I can't find the copy of Classic & Vintage Commercials which had an article about AEC cabs.

The AEC's are MkIII Mammoth Major Eights. The cabs themselves are coachbuilt by a number of companies that carried out this work around the country. Only the chassis and front scuttle would be taken to the customers chosen Coachbuilder for the cab and body to be built and fitted following AEC prints. The later ''Tin Front' models were still MkIII's but had the rounded front to give the model an updated look. Both models here. Franky.

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I had two regular MK3 Mammoth Majors,TWR 573 was ex Harold Wood and had a Hampshire Car Bodies cab.The other one was TGJ 530,ex Shell Mex and BP with an identical cab to the other one I've posted.
Both are Pod Robinson photos.

[cav551]

Having had a trawl through Flickr I've found some names of cab manufacturers other than PArk Royal who built cabs for AEC. Whether they did so for MK III Mammoth Majors I don't know.
Tillotson, Boalloy, Holmalloy, Duramin.

[coomsey]

Can't honestly say I could fancy driving one

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[Star down under.]

Can't honestly say I could fancy driving one

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In eighty years time people will be posting the same about what we think are the Rolls Royce of commercial vehicles, today.
They didn't know any better back then, probably thought the same, as you are saying, about bullock trains, camel trains and horse and carts.

[ERF-NGC-European]

[oiltreader]

Tillotson cab.
https://heritagemachines.com/commercials/the-aec-story/
with a bit about the wagon
Oily

[Les Sylphides]

Interesting set of export AECs for Belgium (posted by PV8 on another thread this week).

[Lawrence Dunbar]

Tillotson cab.
https://heritagemachines.com/commercials/the-aec-story/
with a bit about the wagon
Oily

Very smart tanker 1934 reg, Unusual tyre pattern on the front axles. Larry.

[Ray Smyth]

Another picture of the AEC that Oily posted on Monday. I had a bit of a search
and I found that it has a petrol engine of about 9600 cc, Would that have been
an AEC engine, or perhaps from another engine manufacturer ??

Ray.

[Geordielad]

Ray Smyth wrote;
Another picture of the AEC that Oily posted on Monday. I had a bit of a search
and I found that it has a petrol engine of about 9600 cc, Would that have been
an AEC engine, or perhaps from another engine manufacturer ??

The Mills AEC Mammoth Major Eight in the pic dates its registration from October 1934 to September 1935 Liverpool, the AEC eight wheel rigid was the first to be produced with an Internal Combustion engine and this was in 1934, although AEC had developed the 'Oil Engine' in 1928 being put into vehicles in 1930. An 8.1 litre engine that by 1934 was developed into an Indirect Injection 8.8 litre of 130bhp @ 2400rpm, quite an achievement in power at that date. However some of the first MM Eights were fitted with Petrol engines so it's quite likely this one in the photo was one of those and it would have been an AEC engine. I believe this vehicle is preserved in a Museum. Franky

[coomsey]

She stands well

[oiltreader]

Thanks to The Carlisle Kid for this photo snapped at the 2018 Heathersgill Vintage Club Rally.
Oily

[Froggy55]

What was the model of this one? It seems it's written Mammoth on the radiator, but weren't the Mammoths only 6 or 8-wheelers? Thanks.