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Re: US-Canada border crossing only for the vaccinated driver

Postby stu675 » Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:09 pm

yourhavingalarf wrote:
stu675 wrote:No, unfortunately I can't take original credit.
Perhaps it should be reworded that he is not at all a rapist, only a kidnapper.


Unfortunately?...

You can't take the credit? It's the biggest collection of loaded hypotheticals I've ever come across. It's just laughable in every sense.
It's full of holes. The first one being that if the second girl said yes, then it isn't rape.

You not even sure if he's a rapist or a kidnapper or both?

Reworded? Just written off altogether would be best.


FFS it's not the story that's important. It's the parallels with the broken promises from the government that's important.
Just lockdown for 3 weeks and you can have your freedom back, we did, but we didn't get it.
Just get fully vaccinated, and you can have your freedom back. But oh no, you are never fully vaccinated, you are just waiting for your next booster.
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Re: US-Canada border crossing only for the vaccinated driver

Postby robroy » Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:59 pm

stu675 wrote:
yourhavingalarf wrote:
stu675 wrote:No, unfortunately I can't take original credit.
Perhaps it should be reworded that he is not at all a rapist, only a kidnapper.


Unfortunately?...

You can't take the credit? It's the biggest collection of loaded hypotheticals I've ever come across. It's just laughable in every sense.
It's full of holes. The first one being that if the second girl said yes, then it isn't rape.

You not even sure if he's a rapist or a kidnapper or both?

Reworded? Just written off altogether would be best.


FFS it's not the story that's important. It's the parallels with the broken promises from the government that's important.
Just lockdown for 3 weeks and you can have your freedom back, we did, but we didn't get it.
Just get fully vaccinated, and you can have your freedom back. But oh no, you are never fully vaccinated, you are just waiting for your next booster.

Sorry mate, it was me who kicked this off. :oops: :lol:
I do agree with you btw,.I fully accept that Covid is not made up, and whether or not each individual chooses to have or not have the vaccinations for whatever reason is up to them and [zb] all to do with anybody else. :idea:

What I will say is although I do not believe this is entirely some sort of bizzare social experiment by stealth, made up to just see how far they can brainwash us, and believe the exaggeration,.......and make us all walk around like idiots in various medical ppe equipment, :roll: (well some of you anyway) I do believe they have grasped this opportunity with both hands just to see how far people will bend with their bloody stupid (and in MY opinion) unnecessary rules and regs to see how gullible and servile we/ you are.or are not.
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Re: US-Canada border crossing only for the vaccinated driver

Postby Franglais » Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:26 pm

Harry Monk wrote:
Franglais wrote:
stu675 wrote: Plus which would you be more willing to accept, death from a disease that you caught or death from some procedure you chose to participate in?


Peculiar question.
I wish to protect myself from premature death and illness from all causes.

The risk of death from Covid is far, far greater than the risk of death from vaccines.
Clearly it is better to have a tiny risk from vaccine, than a greater risk from Covid.


In the last two years there have been just over 17,000 deaths from Covid where there was no underlying cause, not the 150,000+ regularly claimed by the mainstream media. This is fewer than in an average flu season.

Source- https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transpar ... yingcauses


I don`t know what this has to with my post?
But I`ll talk a little about it if you like.

I`ve put other posts up about how deaths are recorded by the ONS, and how these may be different to other stats.
To understand what is going on I really think the ONS site should be closely at, not just tiny sections of it, and not just posts like mine!

But just a quick point.
About 66% of the UK adult population is overweight, 25-ish-% are obese, over 10% have heart problems, nearly 5% have been diagnosed with cancer, nearly 10% lung conditions. All of these are known. There are also those with undiagnosed issues.
Not the least bit surprising that the fittest die less from Covid (or anything else) than those already with a malady is it?

If you are obese or have a heart condition you may have many active years in front of you.
Looking at the figures above, do we expect 50% of the UK population to drop dead next year? Of course not.
Having a pre-existing condition does not mean you are on your last legs.

If you are knocked down in the street and die most would say that the accident killed you.
If you were a stone overweight, would you discount the accident as a cause of death? If you were under going cancer treatment would that mean the accident wasn`t the cause?

You can cherry pick that tiny part of the ONS stats, or look at the wider excess mortality stats that those 17,000 are a subset of.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... cember2021
A bigger and more complete idea, but still just a glimpse of what might be happening.

Edit to add a link. Although I guess it will be misread by many.
https://www.ft.com/content/74346367-3d0 ... 10c8917b12
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Re: US-Canada border crossing only for the vaccinated driver

Postby Franglais » Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:23 pm

Harry Monk wrote:
Franglais wrote:
stu675 wrote: Plus which would you be more willing to accept, death from a disease that you caught or death from some procedure you chose to participate in?


Peculiar question.
I wish to protect myself from premature death and illness from all causes.

The risk of death from Covid is far, far greater than the risk of death from vaccines.
Clearly it is better to have a tiny risk from vaccine, than a greater risk from Covid.


In the last two years there have been just over 17,000 deaths from Covid where there was no underlying cause, not the 150,000+ regularly claimed by the mainstream media. This is fewer than in an average flu season.

Source- https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transpar ... yingcauses


Another thought occurs.
Q. How is it in any way "fair" to compare these?

the total..................................number of flu deaths
with
the only no pre-existing conditions ....number of Covid deaths
A. It isn`t.

To do any comparison, even a crude one, surely we need to look at "like for like".

Either total deaths for both viruses or no pre-existing conditions deaths for both conditions.

Bit obvious, should have seen it earlier.
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