Might help some out
gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus … quirements
Good find pig pen 
Looks like the valid DQC requirement has been suspended for anyone who’s DCPC expired on or after 1st March 2020.
This only applies to the UK, so if you’re on international work you will still need a valid DQC.
This suspension exists until 1st October 2020.
They are also considering suspending the requirement for a valid DQC for drivers who have never held a valid DQC.
Temporary measures to allow drivers to continue driving
Most professional lorry and bus drivers must complete 35 hours periodic training every 5 years to maintain a driver qualification card (DQC). During the coronavirus outbreak it may be difficult for drivers to complete the required training.
The Department for Transport has therefore put in place temporary changes in professional driver qualification requirements
This means that drivers whose DQC expires in the period from 1 March 2020 to 30 September 2020 can continue driving.
In addition military drivers (who have different training) will be allowed to drive in civilian situations during that period.
Enforcement arrangements
Drivers will not be subject to enforcement action by the Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency (DVSA) in respect of the DCPC regulations. We have informed police forces of this position.
If you are stopped by an enforcement officer they can check to see that you have previously recently held a CPC or are in the military (including reservists acting under instruction).
Drivers should carry their expired DQC if they have it.
The drivers that this measure applies to will be required to comply with driver CPC rules from 1 October 2020.
Where this applies
These changes apply to Great Britain. Arrangements in Northern Ireland are devolved.
For international road transport drivers should have a Driver CPC, unless the type of transport is exempt from the requirements.
The end date will be kept under review. The proposed schedule includes a substantial period to recover missed training, whose duration will need further assessment.
Insurance
Road transport operators will need to check insurance validity, but should not expect any significant change in premiums.
Good news as my CPC ran out last Friday (and my CPC course was cut short last Tuesday leaving me still to do 1 day). However, I suspect that when I call the office to say that I am available for work, it will still be quiet… 
should bin it
It isn’t going to go away, check out Section 7.2 of this:
legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2007 … 605_en.pdf
I sat one of the online DCPC courses today, there’s some definite positive points to it (and no I wasn’t watching TV while I was on the course)
Hi All,
I’ve not driven professionally for 13 years plus - originally passed LGV 2 and then 1 (although never used the 1 in employment) - I stopped pre CPC etc, - Now working in a small factory.
My employer has asked me to drive a hire 7.5t, (assuming he can get one) to go collect a piece of machinery he’s bought… (driving is not part of my usual job at all now)
This involves a 7 hour round trip of 440 miles.
I know the rules are very different these days - can anyone tell me if CPC is officially needed, even for a ‘one off’ trip of this nature? I read (rather quickly) that there are exemptions, but I am not, in effect, driving for ‘personal reasons’ or under the 60(ish) mile limit i read about…, and all during the ‘lock down’ too…
The DVLA helpline was closed when I tried ringing … can anyone give clarity please? Thanks in advance…
Bri_8691:
Hi All,
I’ve not driven professionally for 13 years plus - originally passed LGV 2 and then 1 (although never used the 1 in employment) - I stopped pre CPC etc, - Now working in a small factory.
My employer has asked me to drive a hire 7.5t, (assuming he can get one) to go collect a piece of machinery he’s bought… (driving is not part of my usual job at all now)
This involves a 7 hour round trip of 440 miles.I know the rules are very different these days - can anyone tell me if CPC is officially needed, even for a ‘one off’ trip of this nature? I read (rather quickly) that there are exemptions, but I am not, in effect, driving for ‘personal reasons’ or under the 60(ish) mile limit i read about…, and all during the ‘lock down’ too…
The DVLA helpline was closed when I tried ringing … can anyone give clarity please? Thanks in advance…
As things stand at the moment, legally you will need to do the DCPC 35 hours periodic training (or initial DCPC mods 2 and 4) before doing the run, however as the DVSA are considering relaxing the rules for drivers who have never done the DCPC things could change at anytime.
tachograph:
As things stand at the moment, legally you will need to do the DCPC 35 hours periodic training (or initial DCPC mods 2 and 4) before doing the run, however as the DVSA are considering relaxing the rules for drivers who have never done the DCPC things could change at anytime.
Thanks very much for your help. 
The answer from Tachograph is very helpful to me too. I have had so much forked tongue advice about replacing my licence. I am post HGV for about 10 years and never did any classroom training. I gave up before the deadline, because of it. I was considering doing it, just to hold it and to try to renew my D4.
It is the order of which to do it in that has caused confusion. A trainer told me I need the Digital Card and D4 before I can do DCPC. Seems very strange.
At least the government advice to get an HGV licence seems well thought out.
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Wheel Nut:
It is the order of which to do it in that has caused confusion. A trainer told me I need the Digital Card and D4 before I can do DCPC. Seems very strange.
Do you have a pre 1997 car licence? I’m guessing that you have, and if that is true then you automatically have your C1 entitlement (7.5T) which is independent of your C/C+E (lapsed) entitlement and you are allowed to do your DCPC.
You don’t need to have a digi-tacho card, you might possibly be driving a 7.5T with an analogue tacho, but it would be worth getting one
It’s easy enough to do your courses online now.
Wheel Nut:
… It is the order of which to do it in that has caused confusion. A trainer told me I need the Digital Card and D4 before I can do DCPC. Seems very strange.
Us oldies are in the same boat… my LGV ran out around 15yrs ago but I have a pre '97 car licence.
I have a current DCPC cos I (just about!) got it all done last September.
The trainer who gave you that advice is simply incorrect, Zac_A is spot-on!
Wheel Nut:
The answer from Tachograph is very helpful to me too. I have had so much forked tongue advice about replacing my licence. I am post HGV for about 10 years and never did any classroom training. I gave up before the deadline, because of it. I was considering doing it, just to hold it and to try to renew my D4.It is the order of which to do it in that has caused confusion. A trainer told me I need the Digital Card and D4 before I can do DCPC. Seems very strange.
I think this depends on your age, I’m pretty sure you have a pre 1997 car licence so if you’re under 70 you will have a cat C1 licence and therefore can do the DCPC periodic training without having a HGV medical.
However the cat C1 entitlement that was gained by having a pre 1997 car licence expires the day before your 70th birthday.
As far as I’m aware you cannot do a DCPC course without having HGV/PCV entitlement, so if you’re over 70 you will not have HGV entitlement and will have to do the HGV medical in order to renew your HGV entitlement before being able to do the DCPC courses.
tachograph:
As far as I’m aware you cannot do a DCPC course without having HGV/PCV entitlement, so if you’re over 70 you will not have HGV entitlement and will have to do the HGV medical in order to renew your HGV entitlement before being able to do the DCPC courses.
I make it that you’re spot-on too tachograph.
Last year my partner, who has a pre '97 car licence hit 70, so she received an option to have a medical if she wished to retain her C1 entitlement.
She declined the offer, but still had to send her licence to DVLA for them to renew her B entitlement.
When her licence came back, the C1 entitlement had magically disappeared.
I’d never even considered the 70 age issue, the thought of someone choosing to return to trucking at that age after being out of it for a prolonged period is an interesting one, I’d imagine they’d find the changes to the industry to be overwhelmingly massive.
Q would employers still treat them as an experienced trucker?
JAUPT have said that the online option is only available until the 12th June but this may change due to circumstances
TBH I am surprised I haven’t had more people requesting it as if they are stuck at home with nothing to do…
The classes are smaller though so drivers may be put off by the fact they are expected to say something from time to time 
good_friend:
JAUPT have said that the online option is only available until the 12th June but this may change due to circumstancesTBH I am surprised I haven’t had more people requesting it as if they are stuck at home with nothing to do…
The classes are smaller though so drivers may be put off by the fact they are expected to say something from time to time
Ahh!! … Would that be engage and participate by any chance?
I’ve just spoken to an instructor friend who teaches DCPC, he told me that he’s in the classroom today and there are 12 delegates doing a 7hr DCPC session on some kind of video link thingy.
Both he and the delegates seem quite pleased with it.
Bit of guidance from me ,When this virus is sorted and were back to getting the economy back THE DRIVER CPC AND THE WORKING TIME DIRECTIVE SHOULD BE BINNED ALONG WITH FORS CLOCS AND ALL THE OTHER NON PRODUCTIVE SIDE OF ROAD HAULAGE,sounds drastic but I think they are out of hand and full of their own importance
fuse:
Bit of guidance from me ,When this virus is sorted and were back to getting the economy back THE DRIVER CPC AND THE WORKING TIME DIRECTIVE SHOULD BE BINNED ALONG WITH FORS CLOCS AND ALL THE OTHER NON PRODUCTIVE SIDE OF ROAD HAULAGE,sounds drastic but I think they are out of hand and full of their own importance
The driver CPC certainly won’t be binned as long as UK drivers go to any EU country and I’d say the same applies to the road transport working time regulations.
As before, Tachograph is right again
TBH it’s a little naive to assume our Government will ever give up something that actually makes them money with very little effort on their part
There’s more at stake than the money issue I think:
How does a law get repealled? My understanding is that some MP has to get stuck in, make a solid argument, follow through on it and really really want to make it happen
I don’t like quoting wikipedia but here’s what they have on the topic
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repeal
Who’s going to do that? What possible reason would they have to do that? Just to keep a small minority of truckers slightly less-unhappy than they usually are? What’s in it for them?
Even if some MP (for some inexplicable reason) should motivate their self to do all that, how easily could it blow up in their face? They’d be accused of not caring about road safety, and the next time there was a notable death on the road involving an HGV, who’d get the blame for it?
As well as the driver getting the blame (and who almost automatically gets arrested at the scene of any incident), there would be accusing fingers pointing at that MP and it would be the end of their career. All it would take is a 0.01% increase in road fatalities involving HGVs and it would be seen as the result of scrapping DCPC
Whether or not there has been an improvement in road safety specifically associated with the introduction of DCPC, I do not know: I have some experience with statistics and I have a rightly cautious approach to them (as we all should have)
However… two minutes of searching on the web and I found an official document (link below)that shows a massive and rapid reduction in road fatalities (down by 30%) since 2008: What would MPs & Road Safety Campaigners make of this?
Oh, and there’s that link I posted, which leads to a 43 page government document, which has already pronounced on the issue of should-it-stay-or-should-it-go-now.
assets.publishing.service.gov.u … t-2018.pdf
