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"And when you’ve done all that,can you just pop into… ":lol: 
Fine for 20£ ph…not for the guaranteed 8.50£ p/h though, sales leads as well… 
End of day all that job content is what we do anyway as a given.
Always looks like they’re asking for the shirt off your back but if you go through that list , you’d find you do it in your day to day job now
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Makes you wonder if they’ve had so many previous ‘‘ain’t my job mate’’ types through the door, that they’ve put as much of the nitty gritty as said stuff we do every day of the week anyway in writing so they have a cast iron cheerio if they get another AMJM.
They forgot to add , when walking around yard make sure a broom is inserted in rear so yard is swept as well
That may as be Juddian, but it’s little gems like this that they hide in the small print, that’ll bite you on the gym on a early Friday afternoon :
Support to the branch with picking, packing, stock checks, loading & housekeeping duties as required
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“Before you go home, just give the warehouse a hand …”
the nodding donkey:
That may as be Juddian, but it’s little gems like this that they hide in the small print, that’ll bite you on the gym on a early Friday afternoon :Support to the branch with picking, packing, stock checks, loading & housekeeping duties as required
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“Before you go home, just give the warehouse a hand …”
Think that’s pretty much in every driver’s T’s and C’s, under the catch-all of “assisting with other duties where required”… and from a boss’s point of view, provided it’s managed sensibly there’s nowt wrong with that.
As for the sales leads; that’s exactly what it would mean, passing info onto the sales department. Reps can’t be everywhere, and if the customer asks you “does your firm sell xxxx” then you either say yes or no if you know, or get the rep to contact the customer if you don’t. Pretty much standard in own-account operations; look at it as keeping yourself in a job.
Sidevalve:
the nodding donkey:
That may as be Juddian, but it’s little gems like this that they hide in the small print, that’ll bite you on the gym on a early Friday afternoon :Support to the branch with picking, packing, stock checks, loading & housekeeping duties as required
.
“Before you go home, just give the warehouse a hand …”
Think that’s pretty much in every driver’s T’s and C’s, under the catch-all of “assisting with other duties where required”… and from a boss’s point of view, provided it’s managed sensibly there’s nowt wrong with that.
As for the sales leads; that’s exactly what it would mean, passing info onto the sales department. Reps can’t be everywhere, and if the customer asks you “does your firm sell xxxx” then you either say yes or no if you know, or get the rep to contact the customer if you don’t. Pretty much standard in own-account operations; look at it as keeping yourself in a job.
I’ve not worked for any company that specifically added working in the warehouse/factory as part of my contract.
As for “any other duties as required…”, if the boss pushes a broom , so will I. If he doesn’t, neither will I .
Sidevalve:
the nodding donkey:
That may as be Juddian, but it’s little gems like this that they hide in the small print, that’ll bite you on the gym on a early Friday afternoon :Support to the branch with picking, packing, stock checks, loading & housekeeping duties as required
.
“Before you go home, just give the warehouse a hand …”
Think that’s pretty much in every driver’s T’s and C’s, under the catch-all of “assisting with other duties where required”… and from a boss’s point of view, provided it’s managed sensibly there’s nowt wrong with that.
As for the sales leads; that’s exactly what it would mean, passing info onto the sales department. Reps can’t be everywhere, and if the customer asks you “does your firm sell xxxx” then you either say yes or no if you know, or get the rep to contact the customer if you don’t. Pretty much standard in own-account operations; look at it as keeping yourself in a job.
And if you work for a company where the “bosses” get paid a hefty bonus,and you get Jack ■■■■■■,why would would you bother 
Dont know what Birmingham is like but could imagine the reaction of the guy who runs the Nottingham branch. Dont think it would be repeatable on here or would break the fb filter! 
They not a bad company at Nottingham at least if you like Moffets on building sites, but he was an ex driver so Brum might be a diff story.
But hey look on the brightside - a real non agency job was actually posted on Indeed…thats a first. 
So it’s basically a driving job then ? This is what a professional driver does isn’t it ? A professional driver is responsible for most of the things listed in the post, unless you are an agency driver who is usually as dumb as a box of rocks
Pat Hasler:
So it’s basically a driving job then ? This is what a professional driver does isn’t it ? A professional driver is responsible for most of the things listed in the post, unless you are an agency driver who is usually as dumb as a box of rocks
Or unless you’re one of quite a few on here who thinks that doing anything besides twirling a steering wheel is beneath your considerable dignity as a “professional driver”.
I’m minded to agree with Juddian here; they have almost certainly had glass-back drivers in before whose excuse for being idle buggers is that they’ve been asked to do something not directly related to driving and refused. How the hell such people coped with the job when it actually did involve hard physical graft I’ll never know.
An odd one. Not sure if they slipped this in whilst being on a liability limiting roll, or it’s a mistake
Be aware of the vehicle inspection rota for servicing & MOT
in line with the Operator Licence requirements
Maintenance scheduling and compliance is an arena I understood the DVSA were readjusting their focus on after the fatal Bath lorry incident.
The word Operator is a hint. Insisting a driver is aware doesn’t affect their liability. Inspection and service scheduling responsibility is their ballywack. As is “Operator licence requirements”. The requirements are managed by the accountable CPC holder who holds the qualifications.
Freight Dog:
An odd one. Not sure if they slipped this in whilst being on a liability limiting roll, or it’s a mistakeBe aware of the vehicle inspection rota for servicing & MOT
in line with the Operator Licence requirementsMaintenance scheduling and compliance is an arena I understood the DVSA were readjusting their focus on after the fatal Bath lorry incident.
The word Operator is a hint. Insisting a driver is aware doesn’t affect their liability. Inspection and service scheduling responsibility is their ballywack. As is “Operator licence requirements”. The requirements are managed by the accountable CPC holder who holds the qualifications.
Agreed, they are; however in own-account places like this it’s not uncommon for the drivers to take some responsibility (whether a legal requirement or not) for sorting out inspections etc. The TM will be either the depot manager who has warehouse and everything else to run, or someone who’s responsible for several depots and may not be based full time at that one. Whilst the TM holds ultimate responsibility the drivers may have to arrange servicing and inspection direct with the garage to fit around their deliveries. I suspect that’s all it means.
Sidevalve:
Freight Dog:
An odd one. Not sure if they slipped this in whilst being on a liability limiting roll, or it’s a mistakeBe aware of the vehicle inspection rota for servicing & MOT
in line with the Operator Licence requirementsMaintenance scheduling and compliance is an arena I understood the DVSA were readjusting their focus on after the fatal Bath lorry incident.
The word Operator is a hint. Insisting a driver is aware doesn’t affect their liability. Inspection and service scheduling responsibility is their ballywack. As is “Operator licence requirements”. The requirements are managed by the accountable CPC holder who holds the qualifications.
Agreed, they are; however in own-account places like this it’s not uncommon for the drivers to take some responsibility (whether a legal requirement or not) for sorting out inspections etc. The TM will be either the depot manager who has warehouse and everything else to run, or someone who’s responsible for several depots and may not be based full time at that one. Whilst the TM holds ultimate responsibility the drivers may have to arrange servicing and inspection direct with the garage to fit around their deliveries. I suspect that’s all it means.
Oh, I’m with you. Just the way they wrote it I think.
Freight Dog:
Sidevalve:
Freight Dog:
An odd one. Not sure if they slipped this in whilst being on a liability limiting roll, or it’s a mistakeBe aware of the vehicle inspection rota for servicing & MOT
in line with the Operator Licence requirementsMaintenance scheduling and compliance is an arena I understood the DVSA were readjusting their focus on after the fatal Bath lorry incident.
The word Operator is a hint. Insisting a driver is aware doesn’t affect their liability. Inspection and service scheduling responsibility is their ballywack. As is “Operator licence requirements”. The requirements are managed by the accountable CPC holder who holds the qualifications.
Agreed, they are; however in own-account places like this it’s not uncommon for the drivers to take some responsibility (whether a legal requirement or not) for sorting out inspections etc. The TM will be either the depot manager who has warehouse and everything else to run, or someone who’s responsible for several depots and may not be based full time at that one. Whilst the TM holds ultimate responsibility the drivers may have to arrange servicing and inspection direct with the garage to fit around their deliveries. I suspect that’s all it means.
Oh, I’m with you. Just the way they wrote it I think.
I suppose you could read it that they shouldn’t take the lorry out delivering (or perhaps load it the night before) without first checking that the gaffer hasn’t booked it in for service; which is common sense really.
Pat Hasler:
So it’s basically a driving job then ? This is what a professional driver does isn’t it ? A professional driver is responsible for most of the things listed in the post, unless you are an agency driver who is usually as dumb as a box of rocks
Pat,I’ve obviously been unlucky with my choice of employers over the years…not once have I had a sales rep or warehouse bod offer to help me out when I’m up against it 
…and nope,I ain’t agency or dumb ( I’ve got O levels I’ll have you know )
Sidevalve:
Freight Dog:
Sidevalve:
Freight Dog:
An odd one. Not sure if they slipped this in whilst being on a liability limiting roll, or it’s a mistakeBe aware of the vehicle inspection rota for servicing & MOT
in line with the Operator Licence requirementsMaintenance scheduling and compliance is an arena I understood the DVSA were readjusting their focus on after the fatal Bath lorry incident.
The word Operator is a hint. Insisting a driver is aware doesn’t affect their liability. Inspection and service scheduling responsibility is their ballywack. As is “Operator licence requirements”. The requirements are managed by the accountable CPC holder who holds the qualifications.
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Agreed, they are; however in own-account places like this it’s not uncommon for the drivers to take some responsibility (whether a legal requirement or not) for sorting out inspections etc. The TM will be either the depot manager who has warehouse and everything else to run, or someone who’s responsible for several depots and may not be based full time at that one. Whilst the TM holds ultimate responsibility the drivers may have to arrange servicing and inspection direct with the garage to fit around their deliveries. I suspect that’s all it means.
Oh, I’m with you. Just the way they wrote it I think.
I suppose you could read it that they shouldn’t take the lorry out delivering (or perhaps load it the night before) without first checking that the gaffer hasn’t booked it in for service; which is common sense really.
I gave them the benefit and considered that myself but dismissed it. Most places I worked if a vehicle was due for maintenance they wouldn’t give you the keys for it or they’d stick a note on the dash or even VoR plate as part of their operator requirements is managing what their vehicles get up to. When i tramped they told you on the phone if it was due in. That was quite a cowboy firm too.
Suppose if it’s the kind of operation that is a little remote where the drivers have their own trucks, keep the keys and it’s up to them to check it’s not rostered for maintenance then fair enough. If a truck misses a service due driver taking it out, they’d prob not shirk their responsibility. DVSA would prob ask probing questions as to how much effort they put in to notifying the driver it was overdue.
I’ve long since advocated a tech log system for fleet trucks, similar to aircraft. The service due dates, mot dates and any maintenance action taken are part of the same folder as the fault reporting book. It’s a closed loop feedback system, works well.
The job itself probably is fairly straightforward delivering insulation materials but why they see the need to write the description in “corporate speak” I do not know. It’s a drivers job after all. For example :-
“Attend essential training in order to carry out the Driver role” Does that mean the company organises it all and you only have to attend, including DCPC ? I notice at the end they ask for a DCPC. Why not just say " must have current DCPC card and keeping up to date is drivers responsibiity (and cost) 
/will be organised / paid for by company as necessary 
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"Take ownership of own Driver Medicals as required " You have to sort out you own medical as necessary to retain your licence ?
Maybe it’s me but is it not better to just have a straight, simple explanation ?
manski:
Maybe it’s me but is it not better to just have a straight, simple explanation ?
It probably was until the company’s HR department realised it had an upcoming audit and needed to justify its existence.
As to the medicals; it translates to “It isn’t our job to remind you that your medical’s due”… which of course is correct.