TFW's

Good luck worksucks and well done to you for getting a meeting
I hope it works out for you.
I’m hoping for an lmia to come through from a couple of companies who have reapplied
I’ll post on here when I have any news

Thanks for the support guys. Just putting my argument together now. will be using a few screenshots from on here to back up my case that there are drivers trying to get here who can’t as well as over here being sent home. The angle I’m going for is that Canada needs drivers so why you makin it so hard for us when most of the violations were in the food service industry, so not even related.
I’ll let you know how it goes.

Add me to the list…

My ultimate goal is to emigrate to Canada, settle down and drive trucks there. They have a driver shortage, I have a class 1 licence, I speak English natively, why have they suddenly made it so hard for their haulage firms to recruit me. I could start within a matter of weeks if they would just let me in.

Yes the trucking industry needs drivers BUT the government want Canadians behind the wheel not foreign nationals. That’s the whole point of what they have bought into place. Some of the companies that this will have an impact on have already had meetings with both provincial trucking bodies and meetings with MPs along with packages presented to them and passed up the chain to Harper on how this will effect not only businesses but also how it will effect their employees on a personal level. One or two pilot schemes are being considered but as with any government world wide this will take time. With an election next year they won’t want to be seen loosing face

taffytrucker:
Yes the trucking industry needs drivers BUT the government want Canadians behind the wheel not foreign nationals. That’s the whole point of what they have bought into place. Some of the companies that this will have an impact on have already had meetings with both provincial trucking bodies and meetings with MPs along with packages presented to them and passed up the chain to Harper on how this will effect not only businesses but also how it will effect their employees on a personal level. One or two pilot schemes are being considered but as with any government world wide this will take time. With an election next year they won’t want to be seen loosing face

Be interesting to see how they are gonna make the job more appealing to attract the Canadian people

hi guy who wants to come over here I would think long hard b4 you do its not as perfect as those adverts back home make out but I came here thinking ye great new life some stick it like it. a lot don’t get past 6mths can be expensive mistake especially if u got family but gd luck whatever u decide :smiley:

I see a few have offered sign on bonus of $750-1000
Which in the grand scheme of things isn’t much. The memory of that extra weeks money when your stuck on a layover three months down the line won’t be much comfort if your heart wasn’t in the job to start with ?

also even if there is a sign on fee u will not get it till u done 3 to 6 months check small print and wonder why they offer it in 1st place

Just had that meeting with Jim Hillyer, MP for Lethbridge. We didn’t think much would come of it as I’ve not been able to find anything about him on tinternet, which basically means he’s not up to much. However he was quite positive. He said that the changes were necessary but implemented in the wrong way, for instance announcing them and implementing them on the same day was a bit of a bone head move, gave nobody a chance to interpret what they actually mean. With the evidence we brought him he said he would call around his fellow MP’s and they would call on the Minister of Employment, Jason Kenney and get him to give Service Canada a kick in the arse. At the moment they are the only thing holding me back. I’m already over here with a job offer on the table waiting on an LMO/LMIA.
Don’t know how much will come of it guys but hopefully it will help some of us out.
I see Jason Kenney is already starting to get some heat in the press from employers in SK and MB who now cannot get staff.
Keep truckin boys, things will soon turn around :confused:

gd luck with that m8 im of home next month but hope u get sorted soon :smiley:

It isn’t just Phillipinos that get a fast track, so do Indians, Mennonites (Russians, Ukrainians, Germans and Dutch) Chinese and various Africans.

They all can (& do) bring extended family with them, they get fast track citizenship and a whole list of benefits and resettlement funds and are eligible for zero interest business start up loans.

We get SFA and then some, I even had to make a legal declaration that I would not sponsor my own kids (22 and 25) to come to Canada when (if) I become a citizen.

WTF is that all about :question:

newmercman:
It isn’t just Phillipinos that get a fast track, so do Indians, Mennonites (Russians, Ukrainians, Germans and Dutch) Chinese and various Africans.

They all can (& do) bring extended family with them, they get fast track citizenship and a whole list of benefits and resettlement funds and are eligible for zero interest business start up loans.

We get SFA and then some, I even had to make a legal declaration that I would not sponsor my own kids (22 and 25) to come to Canada when (if) I become a citizen.

WTF is that all about :question:

Having only left the UK last year i`d say this is just Canada catching up with the rest of the western world :laughing:

To debunk a myth or two first.

Offspring over the majority age are supposed to apply in their own right. They cannot be sponsored and are not generally included in any application by the parent. There is provision for other relatives, specifically elder people, to be sponsored and permitted to stay here. At the moment they are inundated so the norm is a long term visitors visa.

Fast tracking is largely a myth. Part of the reason that other European nationals are getting paperwork done quicker is their education. There are some circumstances where speedy applications occur but not many.

Now, TFWs and LMOs.

The moratorium is due to start this week, august 1st, until December 31st. Supposedly, there will be no issuing of LMOs from that point. The firms that have the numbers issued should be allowed to fill them but there is still a little doubt. If you’re here under LMO then the new rules shouldn’t affect you at all. You will still be able to use the PNP to get PR. However, DO NOT DELAY AT ALL! If they decide you need to fulfil the new education requirements then you’ll need time to do it. Provided your PR application has been received by CIC before your last 4 months you can get an open WP under applied status.

If you’re in Alberta then you have problems. A lot of the changes are to do with wages. If your income falls below the provincial median average then the firms cannot get TFWs. Alberta firms are not managing because the hourly is in the region of $25.50 per hour. Also, Alberta can only issue 5000 or 5500 AINP nominations per year in total.

The LMIA is said to be a simple temporary permit with no nomination or extending allowed. There’s a couple of test cases being prepared but it’s hard to know when they will be heard or what will happen.

Truth is, and these are words from an immigration specialist, that the number of people that have jacked in driving the day they get PR and do another job that a Canadian will happily do is the main problem. Nobody wants to drive but they don’t mind office work or building windows. Trouble is, they see new immigrants taking those jobs and it ruffles feathers.

Sorry bob but that’s not the amount of nominations AB can have per year that’s the amount of PRs they issue the province dictate to companies how many they can nominate per year. Also the whole education thing has been in force in AB for a couple of years. Yes different pilot schemes are being considered doubt see anything this year mind. And the open work permit has been talked about for a while in AB once nomination has been accepted which at the moment is upto a year in AB. Under the new LMIA it’s a work permit for 2 yrs and far as I know you can still apply for sponsorship with it. As for the wage in AB I expect the truck driver won’t fall into the lower band BUT I guess we will find out more over the next couple of months.

taffytrucker:
Sorry bob but that’s not the amount of nominations AB can have per year that’s the amount of PRs they issue the province dictate to companies how many they can nominate per year. Also the whole education thing has been in force in AB for a couple of years. Yes different pilot schemes are being considered doubt see anything this year mind. And the open work permit has been talked about for a while in AB once nomination has been accepted which at the moment is upto a year in AB. Under the new LMIA it’s a work permit for 2 yrs and far as I know you can still apply for sponsorship with it. As for the wage in AB I expect the truck driver won’t fall into the lower band BUT I guess we will find out more over the next couple of months.

That’s all right enough there Taff but I think you maybe a bit optimistic on your last paragraph.
Alberta’s average wage is just over $25/hr. No long haul company pays anywhere near that as an average wage.

Ask CIC themselves instead of AINP. The answer they give is rather different but it’s moot anyway. By May Alberta were halfway through their total and were already six months behind.
The open work permit is only for those close to PR. Nomination only allows you to go to any firm that hires you. You still need a full time offer from the firm and a letter of support from the pnp people.

When all this came out a few weeks ago my boss held a meeting with all the drivers on LMO. According to her the last time she say down and worked out the average it came in just above that figure. What it is now I don’t know.

A lot of MPs are calling for the province to opt out of it as Quebec and Ontario are already excluded from it. I also know that my boss along with other company owners in the area have been in meetings with MPs and papers passed on up the chain to Stephen Harper explaining just how this will not only effect companies and the local economy but also people on a more personal level. Until they actually sit down think about and see if they can come up with another solution gotta ■■■■ it up buttercup

bobthedog:
To debunk a myth or two first.

Now, TFWs and LMOs.

The moratorium is due to start this week, august 1st, until December 31st. Supposedly, there will be no issuing of LMOs from that point. The firms that have the numbers issued should be allowed to fill them but there is still a little doubt. If you’re here under LMO then the new rules shouldn’t affect you at all. You will still be able to use the PNP to get PR. However, DO NOT DELAY AT ALL! If they decide you need to fulfil the new education requirements then you’ll need time to do it. Provided your PR application has been received by CIC before your last 4 months you can get an open WP under applied status.

If you’re in Alberta then you have problems. A lot of the changes are to do with wages. If your income falls below the provincial median average then the firms cannot get TFWs. Alberta firms are not managing because the hourly is in the region of $25.50 per hour. Also, Alberta can only issue 5000 or 5500 AINP nominations per year in total.

The LMIA is said to be a simple temporary permit with no nomination or extending allowed. There’s a couple of test cases being prepared but it’s hard to know when they will be heard or what will happen.

Truth is, and these are words from an immigration specialist, that the number of people that have jacked in driving the day they get PR and do another job that a Canadian will happily do is the main problem. Nobody wants to drive but they don’t mind office work or building windows. Trouble is, they see new immigrants taking those jobs and it ruffles feathers.

Hi there I am new to this forum, can I just ask about the moratorium you mentioned coming in, is that the one in BC? does it apply to other provinces?

Many thanks

Supposedly nationwide, so I called CIC and asked what changes were coming.

I’m guessing they don’t know.

The man I spoke to said nothing has changed and the LMIA is just a rebranded LMO. He also said that spousal WPs are still available in Alberta and Saskatchewan.

If you get offered a job on the TFW programme just ensure that it isn’t a dead end.

So if nothing has changed why have companies had LMOs pulled because of the number they have already??