truckyboy:
If you want to work between 6 to 9 hours with a 30 minute break, ( 2 x 15 mins ) carry on my son, here is one driver who wont…i work 4 hours its time for a 45…work another 4 hrs and its another 45 sorry…but i`m in transport, and thats the way i work. I cant understand any other way. Yes there are 2 sets of regulations, so i drive for 3 hours, back on a bay ( no self tip ) put the tacho on break for 2 hrs is one example.
No body has really answered his question as he and also most ppl get confused with the 15mins and 6 hour rules
And if you have 15mins before 6 hours can you then go over that 6 hour before needing the extra 15mins
For example start at 00.00
Break 15mins 05.45
Off break at 06.00
Then continue but before 09.00 take another 15mins
This is what most ppl get confused with they dont know if they need a 15min or 30mins before 06.00 to go over 06.00
James2255:
No body has really answered his question as he and also most ppl get confused with the 15mins and 6 hour rules
And if you have 15mins before 6 hours can you then go over that 6 hour before needing the extra 15mins
For example start at 00.00
Break 15mins 05.45
Off break at 06.00
Then continue but before 09.00 take another 15mins
This is what most ppl get confused with they dont know if they need a 15min or 30mins before 06.00 to go over 06.00
In your example you wouldn’t need another break till 12.00 as long as you don’t hit 4.5 hrs of driving in the mean time.
James2255:
No body has really answered his question as he and also most ppl get confused with the 15mins and 6 hour rules
And if you have 15mins before 6 hours can you then go over that 6 hour before needing the extra 15mins
For example start at 00.00
Break 15mins 05.45
Off break at 06.00
Then continue but before 09.00 take another 15mins
This is what most ppl get confused with they dont know if they need a 15min or 30mins before 06.00 to go over 06.00
You’ve been listening well at your DCPC. Don’t because it’s wrong…
The only reason you would have to take another fifteen minutes before 0900 in your example is if you were going to be finishing your shift then or before 0930. I.e. Your working time in a shift is between 6 and 9 hours in total.
People on here are saying you can split the 30 min wtd break in to two 15 min breaks.
Never knew you could do that.
I was always led to believe it couldn’t be split so i never do.
CAVEAT - authorities not bothered about WTD - many companies have internal sanctions for breaches
Simple rules for WTD
MAX TIME BETWEEN BREAKS
Do not work (driving+other work) for more than 6 hours during a shift without at least a 15 min break
TOTAL BREAK(S) NEEDED FOR THE TOTAL OF WORK TIME IN A SHIFT
If 6 hours or less = no break needed
If more than 6 hours but no more than 9 hours = 30 mins OR (NOT BOTH) If more than 9 hours = 45 mins
There is no 9 hour 15 min break rule like there is for 6 hours
Easy solution for those without a scooby, forget 15 mins and just have half hour breaks, unless a 45 is needed. But a 30 will cover the wtd between 6 & 9 hours, if taken after 3 hours. Problem solved.
theantbox:
Easy solution for those without a scooby, forget 15 mins and just have half hour breaks, unless a 45 is needed. But a 30 will cover the wtd between 6 & 9 hours, if taken after 3 hours. Problem solved.
That may not work for many drivers perhaps on multi drop where more other work is done than driving time
Total work 6 hours incl 2 hours driving
Break 15 mins
Total work 6 hours incl 2 hours driving
break 30 mins = resets driving time + sorts out all WTD needs
Total work 2 hours 15 mins incl 1 hour driving
15 hour shift which could not be done if 30 mins had been taken on the first break
mat79:
People on here are saying you can split the 30 min wtd break in to two 15 min breaks.
Never knew you could do that.
I was always led to believe it couldn’t be split so i never do.
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If you know you’re NOT going to reach 4.5 hrs driving for the day you could have 3 x 15 or even a 30 followed by a 15 if you so desired.
theantbox:
Easy solution for those without a scooby, forget 15 mins and just have half hour breaks, unless a 45 is needed. But a 30 will cover the wtd between 6 & 9 hours, if taken after 3 hours. Problem solved.
Absolutely. But that is extra I could be at home!
I could knob the missus twice and have a gin & tonic in that time… or 3 gins if she’s not interested
Point is, the better you know the regs the better you can use them to suit your day, your plans, and your working style.
I got my head round the regs, but find it difficult to explain to those who haven’t as they tend to either argue or just plain not understand. So the half hour thing suggested works for them.
Admittedly I’m not the sharpest mind around here, that’s why I’m still confused why I had to take another 15m before 9 hours work has been reached if I went home after 6h19m shift, which included a 15m break prior to reaching 6hrs.
Main question remains - what was the latest time between 6 and 9 hrs work I should have taken the other 15min break?
My solution for now is to take 30min before reaching 6 hours, not 15min as advised by the legislation, which just confuses.
romik:
Admittedly I’m not the sharpest mind around here, that’s why I’m still confused why I had to take another 15m before 9 hours work has been reached if I went home after 6h19m shift, which included a 15m break prior to reaching 6hrs.
Main question remains - what was the latest time between 6 and 9 hrs work I should have taken the other 15min break?
My solution for now is to take 30min before reaching 6 hours, not 15min as advised by the legislation, which just confuses.
In your original post you worked a total of 6 hours 20 minutes and had a 15 minute break before exceeding 6 hours, because your working time was a bit over 6 hours you should have had a total of 30 minutes break/breaks.
You could have had a 30 minute break instead of the 15 minute break or had another 15 minute break before the end of the shift, the second break should not be at the immediate end of the shift.
If your working time is more than 6 hours but not more than 9 hours you need a total of 30 minutes break, this break can be split into 2 parts each of which must be at-least 15 minutes.
Breaks for the WTD cannot be at the immediate start or end of the shift.
For a shift of between 6 and 9 hours working time you could have a 15 minute break before exceeding 6 hours working time and another 15 minute break any-time except at the immediate end of the shift, you must do at-least a minute work after the last break or it won’t count for the WTD.
romik:
Admittedly I’m not the sharpest mind around here, that’s why I’m still confused why I had to take another 15m before 9 hours work has been reached if I went home after 6h19m shift, which included a 15m break prior to reaching 6hrs.
Main question remains - what was the latest time between 6 and 9 hrs work I should have taken the other 15min break?
My solution for now is to take 30min before reaching 6 hours, not 15min as advised by the legislation, which just confuses.
In your original post you worked a total of 6 hours 20 minutes and had a 15 minute break before exceeding 6 hours, because your working time was a bit over 6 hours you should have had a total of 30 minutes break/breaks.
You could have had a 30 minute break instead of the 15 minute break or had another 15 minute break before the end of the shift, the second break should not be at the immediate end of the shift.
If your working time is more than 6 hours but not more than 9 hours you need a total of 30 minutes break, this break can be split into 2 parts each of which must be at-least 15 minutes.
Breaks for the WTD cannot be at the immediate start or end of the shift.
For a shift of between 6 and 9 hours working time you could have a 15 minute break before exceeding 6 hours working time and another 15 minute break any-time except at the immediate end of the shift, you must do at-least a minute work after the last break or it won’t count for the WTD.
Thanks for the reply. The confusing thing is I needed to sit there for another 15 if I just went home for a long break? I understand that these are rules, but come on, seriously now, I only worked 5 minutes between 6 & 9 hours, if I didn’t take 15 prior to having reached 6hrs I understand, but Jeez, what a confusing legislation lol.
