Winseer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_ilIzB8qpY
Federation vs Empire vs Independents…
A story for 2314 and beyond.
That’s the real differences in this argument today and now not remain or leave.Independents v Federation as it stands.No surprise that the Federalists are hiding behind the banner of so called ‘remain’ when what they really stand for is a dictatorial Soviet style Europe.All based on the lie that a Confederation of sovereign states with the right to disagree and opt out supposedly holds back everyone else when by definition that’s an oxymoron.IE how does any state or states opting out of a decision to do something or doing something different stop the other states from doing what they want to do ?.
Also have you noticed that in all the futuristic societal story lines like Star Trek the Federal government system is always the good guys not the evil empire.Tht’s the insecurities of the US Federal government system showing its hand because secession is the biggest fear of any Federation whether it’s the US or the Yugoslav one or the Soviet Union.That also explains the real reason why we were forced into a Federal Europe and why we can’t have a Confederal Europe instead.
Carryfast:
Winseer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_ilIzB8qpY
Federation vs Empire vs Independents…
A story for 2314 and beyond.
That’s the real differences in this argument today and now not remain or leave.Independents v Federation as it stands.No surprise that the Federalists are hiding behind the banner of so called ‘remain’ when what they really stand for is a dictatorial Soviet style Europe.All based on the lie that a Confederation of sovereign states with the right to disagree and opt out supposedly holds back everyone else when by definition that’s an oxymoron.IE how does any state or states opting out of a decision to do something or doing something different stop the other states from doing what they want to do ?.
Also have you noticed that in all the futuristic societal story lines like Star Trek the Federal government system is always the good guys not the evil empire.Tht’s the insecurities of the US Federal government system showing its hand because secession is the biggest fear of any Federation whether it’s the US or the Yugoslav one or the Soviet Union.That also explains the real reason why we were forced into a Federal Europe and why we can’t have a Confederal Europe instead.
Well if you are going to invoke the Sci-fi paradox.
In Star Wars the Galactic Empire was founded upon the collapse of the Old Republic, essentailly a TRADE AGREEMENT, slowly morphing into a Totalitarian DICTATORSHIP over time by corrupt officials.
Sound like any another UNION you might have heard of?
AndieHyde:
Well if you are going to invoke the Sci-fi paradox.
In Star Wars the Galactic Empire was founded upon the collapse of the Old Republic, essentailly a TRADE AGREEMENT, slowly morphing into a Totalitarian DICTATORSHIP over time by corrupt officials.
Sound like any another UNION you might have heard of?
This sort of stuff is really getting to down to the bare bones of it all.
The Galactic Republic ( no surprise was actually another Federal government system like the Star Trek example ) and no surprise were supposedly the good guys.Taken over by the supposed ‘evil empire’ ( in reality an opposing competing Federation like the Soviet Union ).
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_ … tic_Senate
Notice there’s no place in all this for a Confederation of Sovereign planets in which all the independent planetry governments have the right of opt out,substitution and VETO and are the supreme legislature over the senate which in that case is rightly just a talking shop where all or some of the planets can agree or have the right to agree to disagree and to all do their own thing.
The US Federal system having not only hijacked the original US constitution of a Confederation of Sovereign States but also imposing its already failed obsolete undemocratic tyrannical Roman government type ideology on Europe and across the Universe if it gets the chance.
All of which explains the real reason why we can’t have the AfD’s idea of a Confederal Europe and why Europe was forced into going down the inevitable road of a Federal USE monster.Because the US government is terrified that a Confederal Europe would raise the inconvenient question among its own people why not us too in making the states the supreme legislature.As opposed to the senate and president which should be nothing more than a talking shop and its chairman.
youtube.com/watch?v=g36Ef5Fvkok
On that note it seems clear that the whole Star Trek and Star Wars thing were both just part of a big US government driven indoctrination exercise aimed at young people.To provide unarguable credibility to the Federal government system and remove dissent against it.Hence so called ‘remainers’ running around trying to stop our secession from the EU.IE indoctrinated Federalist fools to who it’s all about maintaining and imposing their preferred type of government on Europe and hiding that under the banner of a ‘wish to be part of Europe’.When a Confederal Europe,in which the State legislature and its independent vote is the supreme legislature,would be more relevant and more democratic in that aim but obviously a threat to the US government system.
AndieHyde:
Carryfast:
Winseer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_ilIzB8qpY
Federation vs Empire vs Independents…
A story for 2314 and beyond.
That’s the real differences in this argument today and now not remain or leave.Independents v Federation as it stands.No surprise that the Federalists are hiding behind the banner of so called ‘remain’ when what they really stand for is a dictatorial Soviet style Europe.All based on the lie that a Confederation of sovereign states with the right to disagree and opt out supposedly holds back everyone else when by definition that’s an oxymoron.IE how does any state or states opting out of a decision to do something or doing something different stop the other states from doing what they want to do ?.
Also have you noticed that in all the futuristic societal story lines like Star Trek the Federal government system is always the good guys not the evil empire.Tht’s the insecurities of the US Federal government system showing its hand because secession is the biggest fear of any Federation whether it’s the US or the Yugoslav one or the Soviet Union.That also explains the real reason why we were forced into a Federal Europe and why we can’t have a Confederal Europe instead.
Well if you are going to invoke the Sci-fi paradox.
In Star Wars the Galactic Empire was founded upon the collapse of the Old Republic, essentailly a TRADE AGREEMENT, slowly morphing into a Totalitarian DICTATORSHIP over time by corrupt officials.
Sound like any another UNION you might have heard of?
Having supernatural powers that aided the Imperials with the titles to achieve autocratic rule - also helped out a lot, of course.
The trade agreement fell apart, because the trade federation decided to invade and blockade an entire planet as well.
Well, the EU cannot think to do that to Britian or Hungary, - but it might consider taking the lash to Italy or Greece.
They won’t worry about Poland and Austria though - their so-called “RIght wing governments” are FAR too weak to get much anti-EU stuff done there. 