acd1202:
You’re right there, personally I’d be looking to cut NHS spending never mind increasing it, there is still massive bureaucratic waste there.
A decision my HMGov to introduce tax incentives and rate reductions would be a positive decision and nothing about loopholes. Whilst I am happy to use loopholes I am in favour of closing them. Transparency is the better way to run our affairs and the current tax code is anything but transparent.
It sounds like you are much happier living in a controlled economy, which is fine for you, but don’t try to stop those of us who live in a capitalist country from making it the best it can be. It’s not trying to return to the past, it’s trying to get to our future and if that requires some short term pain to achieve, so be it.
“Massive bureaucratic waste in the NHS” ? Is there any evidence to back up that statement? And if there is waste, then why be it be any worse than any other alternative system? Any organisation the size of the NHS will throw up problems and examples of waste, but that doesn`t mean the system could be readily improved. In transport we all see the silly examples in big “logistics providers” as opposed to smaller family firms. Same thing applies surely?
“happier living in a controlled economy”? A command economy or some such?
No thank you! Saying I think the NHS and education etc are underfunded doesn`t quite make me a fan of such extreme measures.
“it’s trying to get to our future and if that requires some short term pain to achieve, so be it”
Seems to me Brexit promises pain, but any gains, although possible, are far from easy to see without resorting to a pair of rosy specs.
“It’s not trying to return to the past”
For you that may be true. But for many it seems that they believe a leaving the EU would turn the clock back to the sixties and us trading with South Africa, Australia, etc, when Japan was only an emerging economy and Russia and China weren`t trading with anyone.
And from you other post:
"Well you got me to follow a link to the Guardian, 10/10 for that.
It is true that going to WTO rules would impose an effective sales tax on UK produced cars sold within the EU, however cars sold out of the EU would be reduced almost half of our exported cars leave the EU according to SMMT data. On the otherhand we may see the Honda Accord for instance reintroduced here since it’s was withdrawn due to EU import duties. This is only part of the decision on where to manufacture though, employment costs and employment law together with taxation costs also figure, we do well with these now and could do better after Brexit, and no I’m not proposing wage cuts. Also the billions of investment already made here some since the referendum also must weigh heavily I’m any decision. Ultimately however if a plant does close I’m afraid my view of one door opening as one closes may sound harsh, but it is true."
Don`t feel too ashamed of reading a Graudian link: CarryFast got me to follow some of his links! 
Some experience that was!
Re investment post referendum: what was discussed between Ms May and Nissan et al? I dont think anyone in the public space knows what went on there? Yes, you raise valid points about tariffs and EU protectionism: outside the EU our oversea trade may be cheaper, but that would take years to negotiate, and talks havent even started yet! The EU is surely being sensible in trying to bring all member countries up to the same level to forge a strong home market before dropping tariffs on the world stage?
A short term hit to gain in the long term? Sounds tough but fair. But if international investment left the UK during the short term, why would they return in the longer term? I really dont see that. Continuity of investment surely needs a stable environment? Brexit isnt offering that. We are governed by a dysfunctional party, watched by a disorganised opposition.
