UK Parliament Survey - International haulage

[dieseldave]

My name’s Charlotte, I work for the UK Parliament to assist MPs and Peers by engaging the public with their debates. On 4 March, Lord Taylor of Holbeach is leading a debate in the House of Lords on support for hauliers transporting goods internationally.
He wants to hear from those working in the industry to understand their experiences of the issues.

We’ve created a brief survey https://www.smartsurvey.co.uk/s/AFPJ2A/ asking two questions about how the pandemic has impacted the industry, and what should be done to support it. We wanted to invite your members and/or audience to share their experiences, in order to inform the case Lord Taylor puts to a Government minister.

Would you be willing to share the survey with your members so they could contribute in this way? It would be great if you could post this on your forum.

The responses we get will be put into a brief for Lord Taylor to help him prepare for his debate, and he has signalled a willingness to quote contributors’ stories directly in the House of Lords.

You can use this link to watch the debate:
https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/3f0b6abf-d6f9-4c60-b022-8df680db0f99

You can use this link to read the transcript https://hansard.parliament.uk/lords/2021-03-04 once it’s taken place. These are also available on the survey for contributors, and will be emailed to those who supply their email address.

We’ve found this to be a very effective way to engage the public with the work of Parliament and democracy.

The deadline for submissions is Wednesday 3 March. If it is shared before the weekend it’ll have the best chance of gaining a good number of responses.

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Charlotte
Senior Digital Engagement Officer

My pronouns are she/ her

House of Commons, Palace of Westminster, London SW1A 0AA

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This has been OK'ed by Admin, and as usual... any off topic nonsense will be removed.

[adam277]

My pronouns are she/ her

Is it a requirement for government ministers to say what their pronouns are now?

[toonsy]

I'm not sure the pandemic will have had so much of a long term impact, more of a blip. For instance I got stopped from going over in March last year because of travel bans and how quickly situations changed so it wasn't deemed safe enough, but now there's protocols in place and goods have been moving we've still not returned and likely won't be returning with my lot saying that the "hassle with borders and stuff after Brexit" takes most if not all the profit and potentially makes a trip loss leading so I'm not sure my personal perspective can help with the survey.

[Monkey241]

My pronouns are she/ her

Is it a requirement for government ministers to say what their pronouns are now?

She's not a minister....but civil servants have been encouraged to state what pronouns are preferred on emails.

All a bit absurd

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[Franglais]

I'm not sure the pandemic will have had so much of a long term impact, more of a blip. For instance I got stopped from going over in March last year because of travel bans and how quickly situations changed so it wasn't deemed safe enough, but now there's protocols in place and goods have been moving we've still not returned and likely won't be returning with my lot saying that the "hassle with borders and stuff after Brexit" takes most if not all the profit and potentially makes a trip loss leading so I'm not sure my personal perspective can help with the survey.

If you`ve had work altered or lost for safety concerns, then surely that is of interest to the survey takers?
If you consider this is only a temporary instance, as it might be, then that doesn`t mean it won`t be of value in planning for any future, as yet unseen, incident.
I would say your input is valuable.

[Zac_A]

I see we've all zeroed in on the one same line It really does leap off the page and smack you in the face like a wet kipper

Welcome to the latest 21st century PC nonsense, what's next I wonder

[GOG47]

Good lord(excuse the pun) members of the political elite asking the great unwashed for their opinion, whatever next?


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[God on wheels]

Certainly shan't reply to anyone stating the obvious, "my name is Charlotte & my pronouns are......

[Franglais]

I see we've all zeroed in on the one same line

Err...
No.

[adam277]

Well hopefully Carryfast will respond about his woes trying to get EU work.
and Lord Taylor himself will quote him.



the pronoun thing doesnt bother me tbh. I am more agrifeed at people having 'lord' titles.

[WhiteTruckMan]

I'm from the government, and I'm here to help!

[gkdsp]

on a more urgent topic what about the farce that is kent county council? why is westminster allowing this to continue?

[GORDON 50]

I see we've all zeroed in on the one same line

Err...
No.

I hope this comment isn't a signal that you support this nonsense!

[Franglais]

I see we've all zeroed in on the one same line

Err...
No.

I hope this comment isn't a signal that you support this nonsense!

Well here we are again.....
Someone asking for our comments about road haulage, and what happens....

[Zac_A]

I see we've all zeroed in on the one same line

Err...
No.

That was originally a laughing emoji at the end of that line, you're mis-emoji-ing me

For me it was the "my pronouns are..." which caught my eye, and seeing as we have The Census looming, I'm wondering if that is now going to be a question for us all.

[Ziltoid]

I see we've all zeroed in on the one same line

Err...
No.

That was originally a laughing emoji at the end of that line, you're mis-emoji-ing me

For me it was the "my pronouns are..." which caught my eye, and seeing as we have The Census looming, I'm wondering if that is now going to be a question for us all.

Obviously I have no idea if Charlotte is transgender, but assuming she is cis-gender, the purpose of cis people stating their personal pronouns like this is to make trans people feel more comfortable stating theirs without it being like a giant badge saying "HEY EVERYBODY, I'M TRANS!"

I know the majority (or at least the vocal majority) on here lean towards the conservative end of the political spectrum and struggle with progress, but personally I'm all for anything that can help marginalised people feel less...errr.... marginalised!

[adam277]

I know the majority (or at least the vocal majority) on here lean towards the conservative end of the political spectrum and struggle with progress, but personally I'm all for anything that can help marginalised people feel less...errr.... marginalised!

I agree. I'm not the type of guy to call a trans women a man. I would use the pronouns they want to be known as.

[Zac_A]

Best of luck to those people who have a particular issue with personal pronouns, the problem is though that the more the issue develops, the more likely it is to become a topic of humour, which is going to upset them even more.

My son (13) and his friends have for ages been making big jokes about "Identifying as an attack helicopter", originally I though it was some mad early-teenage joke peculiar to him and his mates, but apparently "it's a thing".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Sexuall ... Helicopter

Meanwhile schools have mandatory "lessons" on "how best to celebrate LGBTQA+ lifestyles"
My parents worried about me breaking windows and trespassing on the railway, that seems preferable to worrying about your kid being accused of whatever-the-latest-word-is-for homophobia

[adam277]

Best of luck to those people who have a particular issue with personal pronouns, the problem is though that the more the issue develops, the more likely it is to become a topic of humour, which is going to upset them even more.

My son (13) and his friends have for ages been making big jokes about "Identifying as an attack helicopter", originally I though it was some mad early-teenage joke peculiar to him and his mates, but apparently "it's a thing".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Sexuall ... Helicopter

Meanwhile schools have mandatory "lessons" on "how best to celebrate LGBTQA+ lifestyles"
My parents worried about me breaking windows and trespassing on the railway, that seems preferable to worrying about your kid being accused of whatever-the-latest-word-is-for homophobia

That is pretty amusing. Although I suppose it does mock the plight of people who are not in the traditional gender categories.
I wouldnt call it homophobia though.
I think the issue is a lot of people just dont understand how gender can be a subjective social construct. For most people your either a man or a women.
Even if you decide to change your sex you are still changing it to the opposite sex. There are those who identify as inanimate objects or other species.. It is hard to understand.

I should probably start another topic on this.
But there are literally people who identify as other species.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/yvwknv/ ... ns-species
In that article alone, there are people who identify as a dragon or as a werewolf.

[GOG47]

Well, this has gone way off the original topic but allow me to put my tuppence worth in, as a grumpy old fart. There are only males and females, anything else is just mental illness. Just sayin


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[GORDON 50]

Well, this has gone way off the original topic but allow me to put my tuppence worth in, as a grumpy old fart. There are only males and females, anything else is just mental illness. Just sayin


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Exactly...probably what most down to earth, grass roots people think. If this gender nonsense carries on it begs the question of where does it stop!

[Ziltoid]

Well, this has gone way off the original topic but allow me to put my tuppence worth in, as a grumpy old fart. There are only males and females, anything else is just mental illness. Just sayin


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Exactly...probably what most down to earth, grass roots people think. If this gender nonsense carries on it begs the question of where does it stop!

While this has historically been treated as a mental health problem, that is no longer the case for the vast majority of experts (assuming you haven't had enough of those) and it is generally recognised that binary gender (like sexuality) is simply a social construct.

Both of those two posts are exactly the same views stated by many in the past on behaviours and lifestyles that most on here wouldn't bat an eyelid at, as they are considered perfectly acceptable in contemporary society. In other words, times change - move with them.

[the maoster]

What about those of us who genuinely don’t care one iota about someone else’s skin colour, their religion or their sexuality? Are we now guilty of some perceived “ism” precisely because we don’t care? Are we now somehow at fault?

[adam277]

What about those of us who genuinely don’t care one iota about someone else’s skin colour, their religion or their sexuality? Are we now guilty of some perceived “ism” precisely because we don’t care? Are we now somehow at fault?

If you don't care I believe the correct procedure is you have to be "educated" and your privilege explained to you.

[the maoster]

What about those of us who genuinely don’t care one iota about someone else’s skin colour, their religion or their sexuality? Are we now guilty of some perceived “ism” precisely because we don’t care? Are we now somehow at fault?

If you don't care I believe the correct procedure is you have to be "educated" and your privilege explained to you.

You’re probably correct there.

Here’s the rub however; surely if I don’t care either way then I’m being judged by those that do?

[ArcticMonkey]

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