Past Present and in Between in Pictures

[VALKYRIE]

Thanks to Buzzer for the photo
What make is this? looks like a wartime take with the blacked lights also note the semaphore indicator.
Oily

Don't know but with a Norwegian wartime location, perhaps an early Volvo or Scania-Vabis?

TruckNetUK . Old Time Lorries . Past Present And In Between In Pictures .652. White 700-Series,800-Series,
WA,WB And 3000 F-Type COE Heavy Motor Truck Ranges,USA. Wednesday,1st July,2020. VALKYRIE

The White cab-over-engine 700-Series and 800-Series motor truck models were introduced in 1934,and
were revised in 1937.Until 1938 most if not all of this range were powered by a White Pancake Flat Horizontally-Opposed 12-Cylinder Gasoline-Petrol Engine,which has been variously described by several different authors as being a 'V12',an 'opposed piston engine' and a 'horizontally opposed piston engine',but in actual fact it was a pancake flat horizontally-opposed 12-cylinder engine.It was originally developed to power White City 100-Passenger Motorcoaches,and was made in at least two sizes:465 CID-7.6 Litres and 505 CID-8.3 Litres.
At least one of the flat-12 engines was designated 24 - this was the power unit of Autocar and White
T17 pilot halftracks for the USA military in 1943.
The White 700-Series and 800-Series cab-over-engine range developed in to the WA range in 1940,and then
the WB range in 1946 which was replaced by the famous 3000 F-Type Tilt Cab-Over-Engine models in
1949.

1.
White 730-Series,Cab-Over-Engine,R4x2,Tanker Lorry,Drawbar,4-Wheeler,Tanker-Bodied,Trailer Outfit,A-35148,1937-1940,Standard,Oslo,Norway.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,652.6-2020.OilTreader.1#

White 730-Series,Cab-Over-Engine,R4x2,Tanker Lorry,Drawbar,4-Wheeler,Tanker-Bodied,Trailer Outfit,A-35148,1937-1940,Standard,Oslo,Norway.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,652.6-2020.OilTreader.1#

2.
White 730 & 731-Series,Cab-Over-Engine,Heavy Motor Truck Range introduced in 1934.Some were 800-Series,later re-designated WA.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,652.6-2020.2.BP.Blogspot.Com.1#

White 730 & 731-Series,Cab-Over-Engine,Heavy Motor Truck Range introduced in 1934.Some were 800-Series,later re-designated WA.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,652.6-2020.2.BP.Blogspot.Com.1#

.White 730 & 731-Series,Cab-Over-Engine,Heavy Motor Truck Range introduced in 1934.Some were 800-Series,later re-designated WA.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,652.6-2020.2.BP.Blogspot.Com.1#.jpg (51.51 KiB) Viewed 12471 times

3.
White WB,Cab-Over-Engine,4x2-2,Tractive Unit,Articulated Streamlined Tanker Motor Truck,Labatt's,1947,preserved.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,652.6-2020.CarPhoto-Flickriver.1#

White WB,Cab-Over-Engine,4x2-2,Tractive Unit,Articulated Streamlined Tanker Motor Truck,Labatt's,1947,preserved.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,652.6-2020.CarPhoto-Flickriver.1#

.White WB,Cab-Over-Engine,4x2-2,Tractive Unit,Articulated Streamlined Tanker Motor Truck,Labatt's,1947,preserved.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,652.6-2020.CarPhoto-Flickriver.1#.jpg (64.18 KiB) Viewed 12471 times

4.
White 700-Series,Cab-Over-Engine,R4x2,Streamlined Tanker Motor Truck,1937.Superb and spectacular styling by Alexis De Sakhnoffsky.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,652.6-2020.AldenJewell-Flickr-Pinterest.1#

White 700-Series,Cab-Over-Engine,R4x2,Streamlined Tanker Motor Truck,1937.Superb and spectacular styling by Alexis De Sakhnoffsky.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,652.6-2020.AldenJewell-Flickr-Pinterest.1#

.White 700-Series,Cab-Over-Engine,R4x2,Streamlined Tanker Motor Truck,1937.Superb and spectacular styling by Alexis De Sakhnoffsky.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,652.6-2020.AldenJewell-Flickr-Pinterest.1#.jpg (35.23 KiB) Viewed 12471 times

5.
White 3000 F-Type,Tilt Cab-Over-Engine,R6x2 or R6x4,Tanker Motor Truck.1953.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,652.6-2020.George Murphy-Flickr-Pinterest.1#

White 3000 F-Type,Tilt Cab-Over-Engine,R6x2 or R6x4,Tanker Motor Truck.1953.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,652.6-2020.George Murphy-Flickr-Pinterest.1#

.White 3000 F-Type,Tilt Cab-Over-Engine,R6x2 or R6x4,Tanker Motor Truck.1953.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,652.6-2020.George Murphy-Flickr-Pinterest.1#.jpg (25.99 KiB) Viewed 12471 times

VALKYRIE

[pyewacket947v]

7 May 1985
Alfreton Road
Little Eaton
Derbys ,ENG,

A Leyland 6x4, possibly ex MoD
Leaning against another victim of the scrapper..

[Spardo]

Thanks to Buzzer for the photo
What make is this? looks like a wartime take with the blacked lights also note the semaphore indicator.
Oily

Don't know but with a Norwegian wartime location, perhaps an early Volvo or Scania-Vabis?

TruckNetUK . Old Time Lorries . Past Present And In Between In Pictures .652. White 700-Series,800-Series,
WA,WB And 3000 F-Type COE Heavy Motor Truck Ranges,USA. Wednesday,1st July,2020. VALKYRIE

The White cab-over-engine 700-Series and 800-Series motor truck models were introduced in 1934,and
were revised in 1937.Until 1938 most if not all of this range were powered by a White Pancake Flat Horizontally-Opposed 12-Cylinder Gasoline-Petrol Engine,which has been variously described by several different authors as being a 'V12',an 'opposed piston engine' and a 'horizontally opposed piston engine',but in actual fact it was a pancake flat horizontally-opposed 12-cylinder engine.It was originally developed to power White City 100-Passenger Motorcoaches,and was made in at least two sizes:465 CID-7.6 Litres and 505 CID-8.3 Litres.
At least one of the flat-12 engines was designated 24 - this was the power unit of Autocar and White
T17 pilot halftracks for the USA military in 1943.
The White 700-Series and 800-Series cab-over-engine range developed in to the WA range in 1940,and then
the WB range in 1946 which was replaced by the famous 3000 F-Type Tilt Cab-Over-Engine models in
1949.

1.
White 730-Series,Cab-Over-Engine,R4x2,Tanker Lorry,Drawbar,4-Wheeler,Tanker-Bodied,Trailer Outfit,A-35148,1937-1940,Standard,Oslo,Norway.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,652.6-2020.OilTreader.1#

.White 730-Series,Cab-Over-Engine,R4x2,Tanker Lorry,Drawbar,4-Wheeler,Tanker-Bodied,Trailer Outfit,A-35148,1937-1940,Standard,Oslo,Norway.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,652.6-2020.OilTreader.1#.jpg

2.
White 730 & 731-Series,Cab-Over-Engine,Heavy Motor Truck Range introduced in 1934.Some were 800-Series,later re-designated WA.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,652.6-2020.2.BP.Blogspot.Com.1#

White 730 & 731-Series,Cab-Over-Engine,Heavy Motor Truck Range introduced in 1934.Some were 800-Series,later re-designated WA.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,652.6-2020.2.BP.Blogspot.Com.1#.jpg

3.
White WB,Cab-Over-Engine,4x2-2,Tractive Unit,Articulated Streamlined Tanker Motor Truck,Labatt's,1947,preserved.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,652.6-2020.CarPhoto-Flickriver.1#

White WB,Cab-Over-Engine,4x2-2,Tractive Unit,Articulated Streamlined Tanker Motor Truck,Labatt's,1947,preserved.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,652.6-2020.CarPhoto-Flickriver.1#.jpg

4.
White 700-Series,Cab-Over-Engine,R4x2,Streamlined Tanker Motor Truck,1937.Superb and spectacular styling by Alexis De Sakhnoffsky.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,652.6-2020.AldenJewell-Flickr-Pinterest.1#

White 700-Series,Cab-Over-Engine,R4x2,Streamlined Tanker Motor Truck,1937.Superb and spectacular styling by Alexis De Sakhnoffsky.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,652.6-2020.AldenJewell-Flickr-Pinterest.1#.jpg

5.
White 3000 F-Type,Tilt Cab-Over-Engine,R6x2 or R6x4,Tanker Motor Truck.1953.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,652.6-2020.George Murphy-Flickr-Pinterest.1#

White 3000 F-Type,Tilt Cab-Over-Engine,R6x2 or R6x4,Tanker Motor Truck.1953.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,652.6-2020.George Murphy-Flickr-Pinterest.1#.jpg

VALKYRIE

Fascinating info Valkyrie, thenk you.

[peterm]

The White cab-over-engine 700-Series and 800-Series motor truck models were introduced in 1934,and
were revised in 1937.Until 1938 most if not all of this range were powered by a White Pancake Flat Horizontally-Opposed 12-Cylinder Gasoline-Petrol Engine,which has been variously described by several different authors as being a 'V12',an 'opposed piston engine' and a 'horizontally opposed piston engine',but in actual fact it was a pancake flat horizontally-opposed 12-cylinder engine.It was originally developed to power White City 100-Passenger Motorcoaches,and was made in at least two sizes:465 CID-7.6 Litres and 505 CID-8.3 Litres.
At least one of the flat-12 engines was designated 24 - this was the power unit of Autocar and White
T17 pilot halftracks for the USA military in 1943.

VALKYRIE[/quote]
Are you sure it was opposed which would mean 24 pistons with either one crankshaft linked by rods etc, or two crankshafts coupled with gears. Or was it simply a flat 12 with one crankshaft between two banks of six?

[Froggy55]

Then very similar to the flat-12 which powered the French EBR Army tank (1952). Designed by assembling 6 Panhard flat-twins; 200 bhp at 3700 rpm.

https://mvcgfrance.org/menu2/vehicules_ ... ebbre.html

[oiltreader]

Thanks to pyewacket947v, Ray Smyth, VALKYRIE and Froggy55 for the pics and great detail on the White from VALKYRIE
Oily

One unit five trailers....neat(albeit with landing legs removed), all credit to Richard Says for the photo.

[Buzzer]

Couple for today, Buzzer.

[5thwheel]

Couple for today, Buzzer.

2nd picture shows a BRS load of London Brick commons,handball on handball off,the commons used to cut your gloves/hands to ribbons.





David

[Buzzer]

Couple for today, Buzzer.

2nd picture shows a BRS load of London Brick commons,handball on handball off,the commons used to cut your gloves/hands to ribbons.





David

David i think i can remember a gadget that was used and maybe someone can confirm, it was a sort of cantilever thing which had thin metal blades each side and could lift 5 or 6 bricks at a time. it was inserted over the bricks and lifted there bye operating the scissor pinch and then swung in the direction of the recipient and the pressure let go thus releasing the clasp on the bricks ready for catching and stacking, does anyone recollect such a piece of equipment, Buzzer

[VALKYRIE]

The White cab-over-engine 700-Series and 800-Series motor truck models were introduced in 1934,and
were revised in 1937.Until 1938 most if not all of this range were powered by a White Pancake Flat Horizontally-Opposed 12-Cylinder Gasoline-Petrol Engine,which has been variously described by several different authors as being a 'V12',an 'opposed piston engine' and a 'horizontally opposed piston engine',but in actual fact it was a pancake flat horizontally-opposed 12-cylinder engine.It was originally developed to power White City 100-Passenger Motorcoaches,and was made in at least two sizes:465 CID-7.6 Litres and 505 CID-8.3 Litres.
At least one of the flat-12 engines was designated 24 - this was the power unit of Autocar and White
T17 pilot halftracks for the USA military in 1943.

VALKYRIE

Are you sure it was opposed which would mean 24 pistons with either one crankshaft linked by rods etc, or two crankshafts coupled with gears. Or was it simply a flat 12 with one crankshaft between two banks of six?[/quote]


TruckNetUK . Old Time Lorries . Past Present And In Between In Pictures .653.Differences of Flat Pancake
Boxer Horizontally Opposed 2-,4-,6,8-,10-,12-,16-Cylinder Engines And Horizontally Opposed Piston Engines.
Friday,3rd July,2020. VALKYRIE

Flat Pancake Boxer Horizontally Opposed 2-,4-,6,8-,10-,12-,16-Cylinder Engines.

Horizontally Opposed Piston Engines.

Hello Peterm The terminology for these above two distinct configurations of engine-types can be
downright confusing,which is almost certainly caused by the operative word 'opposed' And this is
reflected in what I said in my above post: QUOTE:-
White Pancake Flat Horizontally-Opposed 12-Cylinder Gasoline-Petrol Engine,which has been variously described by several different authors as being a 'V12',an 'opposed piston engine' and a 'horizontally opposed piston engine',but in actual fact it was a pancake flat horizontally-opposed 12-cylinder engine.UNQUOTE.

As I stated in my original above post,the White Pancake Flat Horizontally Opposed 12-Cylinder Gasoline-
Petrol Engine was originally developed for use in White City Motorcoaches which were mid underfloor-
engined i.e.the above flat 12 engine was fitted.The reasons why it was a flat 12 was to provide enough
power for this motorcoach and to comply with the flat floor design of this motor vehicle.A V-12 engine
would have been impractical for obvious reasons.


Flat Pancake Boxer Horizontally Opposed 2-,4-,6,8-,10-,12-,16-Cylinder Engines share a central crankshaft
with two horizontally opposed banks of whatever number of cylinders.
WIKIPEDIA:-
QUOTE:A flat engine, also known as a horizontally opposed engine, is a piston engine where the cylinders are located on either side of a central crankshaft. It is effectively a V engine with a 180-degree angle between the cylinder banks. A flat engine should not be confused with the opposed-piston engine, in which each cylinder has two pistons sharing a central combustion chamber.

The most common configuration of flat engines is the boxer engine, where each pair of opposed cylinders moves inwards and outwards at the same time. The other configuration is called a "180-degree V engine" and have each crankpin shared by a pair of cylinders.UNQUOTE.

1.
ENGINES.Porsche 917 Can-Am experimental flat pancake horizontally opposed 16-cylinder engine.A single central crankshaft is shared between two horizontally opposed banks of 8-cylinders each.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,653.7-2020.Wikipedia.3#

ENGINES.Porsche 917 Can-Am experimental flat pancake horizontally opposed 16-cylinder engine.A single central crankshaft is shared between two horizontally opposed banks of 8-cylinders each.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,653.7-2020.Wikipedia.3#

Famous flat pancake boxer horizontally opposed cylinder engines include:-

BMW flat pancake horizontally opposed 2-cylinder motorcycle engines

Volkswagen Beetle flat pancake horizontally opposed 4-cylinder motorcar engine.

Ferrari flat pancake horizontally opposed 12-cylinder Grand Prix Motor Racing and sports car engines.

Jowett Javelin flat pancake horizontally opposed 4-cylinder aerodynamic saloon motorcar engine.

Horizontally Opposed Piston Engines have two opposed pistons in each cylinder,when each piston
simultaneously reaches top dead center the remaining space between the two pistons forms the
combustion chamber.
WIKIPEDIA:-
QUOTE:For horizontally-opposed engines, see flat engine.

An opposed-piston engine is a piston engine in which each cylinder has a piston at both ends, and no cylinder head.
Petrol and diesel opposed-piston engines have been used, mostly in large scale applications such as ships, military tanks and in factories.

2.
ENGINES.A schematic of a supercharged opposed piston engine Has two opposed pistons in each cylinder.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,653.7-2020.Wikipedia.2#

ENGINES.A schematic of a supercharged opposed piston engine Has two opposed pistons in each cylinder.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,653.7-2020.Wikipedia.2#

.ENGINES.A schematic of a supercharged opposed piston engine Has two opposed pistons in each cylinder.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,653.7-2020.Wikipedia.2#.gif (16.49 KiB) Viewed 6697 times

NOTE:Certain engines listed below are not necessarily horizontal.
Famous opposed piston engines include:-
Commer-Rootes TS3 Horizontally Opposed Piston 3-Cylinder Two Stroke Diesel Lorry & Motorcoach Engine.

Junkers Vertically Opposed Piston Two Stroke Diesel Aeroplane Engines

Napier Deltic Opposed Piston 18-Cylinder Two Stroke Diesel Marine,Industrial and Rail Traction Engines

Leyland L60 Horizontally Opposed Piston 6-Cylinder Two Stroke Diesel Military Tank Engines.

So the four operative words in two groups of two are:-
1.
Opposed cylinder.

2.
Opposed piston.

Simple

ENGINES.White Pancake Boxer Flat Horizontally Opposed 12-Cylinder Engine being serviced in a White mid underfloor engined,Motorcoach.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,653.7-2020.CurbsideClassic.Com.1#

ENGINES.White Pancake Boxer Flat Horizontally Opposed 12-Cylinder Engine being serviced in a White mid underfloor engined,Motorcoach.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,653.7-2020.CurbsideClassic.Com.1#

.ENGINES.White Pancake Boxer Flat Horizontally Opposed 12-Cylinder Engine being serviced in a White mid underfloor engined,Motorcoach.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,653.7-2020.CurbsideClassic.Com.1#.jpg (76.62 KiB) Viewed 6697 times

ENGINES.White 748,Mid Underfloor White Pancake Boxer Flat Horizontally Opposed 12-Cylinder Engined, Motorcoach.Preserved 1938 San Francico Municipal,No.042.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,653.7-2020.Spicoli-Flickr-Pinterest.4#

ENGINES.White 748,Mid Underfloor White Pancake Boxer Flat Horizontally Opposed 12-Cylinder Engined,Motorcoach.Preserved 1938 San Francisco Municipal,No.042.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,653.7-2020.Spicoli-Flickr-Pinterest.4#

.ENGINES.White 748,Mid Underfloor White Pancake Boxer Flat Horizontally Opposed 12-Cylinder Engined,Motorcoach.Preserved 1938 San Francisco Municipal,No.042.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,653.7-2020.Spicoli-Flickr-Pinterest.4#.jpg (66.57 KiB) Viewed 6697 times

NOTE:A YouTube 15:31 duration film-video of the above White 748 Motorcoach (some title it a Bus )
shows it carrying passengers,running on the streets of San Francisco and from 1 minute to around 4:20
its White Pancake Boxer Flat Horizontally Opposed 12-Cylinder Gasoline-Petrol Engine can be seen.......
and heard running.The driver gives a good explanation of this engine


https://www.curbsideclassic.com/bus-sto ... buses-too/

VALKYRIE

[Carryfast]

1.
Opposed cylinder.

2.
Opposed piston.

Simple

3. Opposed cylinder boxer ( individual crankpins per cylinder ).

[5thwheel]

Couple for today, Buzzer.

2nd picture shows a BRS load of London Brick commons,handball on handball off,the commons used to cut your gloves/hands to ribbons.





David

David i think i can remember a gadget that was used and maybe someone can confirm, it was a sort of cantilever thing which had thin metal blades each side and could lift 5 or 6 bricks at a time. it was inserted over the bricks and lifted there bye operating the scissor pinch and then swung in the direction of the recipient and the pressure let go thus releasing the clasp on the bricks ready for catching and stacking, does anyone recollect such a piece of equipment, Buzzer

Buzzer,I can recall a set up IIRC called a Stacalift,or something similar that ran on rails on the edges of the flat on a ridged,used to up lift or deliver a lot more than 5 or 6 bricks though,London Brick had quite a few of them.


David

[Buzzer]

Couple for today, Buzzer.

2nd picture shows a BRS load of London Brick commons,handball on handball off,the commons used to cut your gloves/hands to ribbons.





David

David i think i can remember a gadget that was used and maybe someone can confirm, it was a sort of cantilever thing which had thin metal blades each side and could lift 5 or 6 bricks at a time. it was inserted over the bricks and lifted there bye operating the scissor pinch and then swung in the direction of the recipient and the pressure let go thus releasing the clasp on the bricks ready for catching and stacking, does anyone recollect such a piece of equipment, Buzzer

Buzzer,I can recall a set up IIRC called a Stacalift,or something similar that ran on rails on the edges of the flat on a ridged,used to up lift or deliver a lot more than 5 or 6 bricks though,London Brick had quite a few of them.


David

Mate I could'nt rest and looked it up and you can still get a modern version of them today believe it or not from Amazon, Buzzer

[peterm]

The White cab-over-engine 700-Series and 800-Series motor truck models were introduced in 1934,and
were revised in 1937.Until 1938 most if not all of this range were powered by a White Pancake Flat Horizontally-Opposed 12-Cylinder Gasoline-Petrol Engine,which has been variously described by several different authors as being a 'V12',an 'opposed piston engine' and a 'horizontally opposed piston engine',but in actual fact it was a pancake flat horizontally-opposed 12-cylinder engine.It was originally developed to power White City 100-Passenger Motorcoaches,and was made in at least two sizes:465 CID-7.6 Litres and 505 CID-8.3 Litres.
At least one of the flat-12 engines was designated 24 - this was the power unit of Autocar and White
T17 pilot halftracks for the USA military in 1943.

VALKYRIE

Are you sure it was opposed which would mean 24 pistons with either one crankshaft linked by rods etc, or two crankshafts coupled with gears. Or was it simply a flat 12 with one crankshaft between two banks of six?

TruckNetUK . Old Time Lorries . Past Present And In Between In Pictures .653.Differences of Flat Pancake
Boxer Horizontally Opposed 2-,4-,6,8-,10-,12-,16-Cylinder Engines And Horizontally Opposed Piston Engines.
Friday,3rd July,2020. VALKYRIE

Flat Pancake Boxer Horizontally Opposed 2-,4-,6,8-,10-,12-,16-Cylinder Engines.

Horizontally Opposed Piston Engines.

Hello Peterm The terminology for these above two distinct configurations of engine-types can be
downright confusing,which is almost certainly caused by the operative word 'opposed' And this is
reflected in what I said in my above post: QUOTE:-
White Pancake Flat Horizontally-Opposed 12-Cylinder Gasoline-Petrol Engine,which has been variously described by several different authors as being a 'V12',an 'opposed piston engine' and a 'horizontally opposed piston engine',but in actual fact it was a pancake flat horizontally-opposed 12-cylinder engine.UNQUOTE.

As I stated in my original above post,the White Pancake Flat Horizontally Opposed 12-Cylinder Gasoline-
Petrol Engine was originally developed for use in White City Motorcoaches which were mid underfloor-
engined i.e.the above flat 12 engine was fitted.The reasons why it was a flat 12 was to provide enough
power for this motorcoach and to comply with the flat floor design of this motor vehicle.A V-12 engine
would have been impractical for obvious reasons.


Flat Pancake Boxer Horizontally Opposed 2-,4-,6,8-,10-,12-,16-Cylinder Engines share a central crankshaft
with two horizontally opposed banks of whatever number of cylinders.
WIKIPEDIA:-
QUOTE:A flat engine, also known as a horizontally opposed engine, is a piston engine where the cylinders are located on either side of a central crankshaft. It is effectively a V engine with a 180-degree angle between the cylinder banks. A flat engine should not be confused with the opposed-piston engine, in which each cylinder has two pistons sharing a central combustion chamber.

The most common configuration of flat engines is the boxer engine, where each pair of opposed cylinders moves inwards and outwards at the same time. The other configuration is called a "180-degree V engine" and have each crankpin shared by a pair of cylinders.UNQUOTE.

1.
ENGINES.Porsche 917 Can-Am experimental flat pancake horizontally opposed 16-cylinder engine.A single central crankshaft is shared between two horizontally opposed banks of 8-cylinders each.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,653.7-2020.Wikipedia.3#

ENGINES.Porsche 917 Can-Am experimental flat pancake horizontally opposed 16-cylinder engine.A single central crankshaft is shared between two horizontally opposed banks of 8-cylinders each.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,653.7-2020.Wikipedia.3#.jpg

Famous flat pancake boxer horizontally opposed cylinder engines include:-

BMW flat pancake horizontally opposed 2-cylinder motorcycle engines

Volkswagen Beetle flat pancake horizontally opposed 4-cylinder motorcar engine.

Ferrari flat pancake horizontally opposed 12-cylinder Grand Prix Motor Racing and sports car engines.

Jowett Javelin flat pancake horizontally opposed 4-cylinder aerodynamic saloon motorcar engine.

Horizontally Opposed Piston Engines have two opposed pistons in each cylinder,when each piston
simultaneously reaches top dead center the remaining space between the two pistons forms the
combustion chamber.
WIKIPEDIA:-
QUOTE:For horizontally-opposed engines, see flat engine.

An opposed-piston engine is a piston engine in which each cylinder has a piston at both ends, and no cylinder head.
Petrol and diesel opposed-piston engines have been used, mostly in large scale applications such as ships, military tanks and in factories.

2.
ENGINES.A schematic of a supercharged opposed piston engine Has two opposed pistons in each cylinder.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,653.7-2020.Wikipedia.2#

.ENGINESA schematic of a supercharged opposed piston engine Has two opposed pistons in each cylinder.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,653.7-2020.Wikipedia.2#.gif

NOTE:Certain engines listed below are not necessarily horizontal.
Famous opposed piston engines include:-
Commer-Rootes TS3 Horizontally Opposed Piston 3-Cylinder Two Stroke Diesel Lorry & Motorcoach Engine.

Junkers Vertically Opposed Piston Two Stroke Diesel Aeroplane Engines

Napier Deltic Opposed Piston 18-Cylinder Two Stroke Diesel Marine,Industrial and Rail Traction Engines

Leyland L60 Horizontally Opposed Piston 6-Cylinder Two Stroke Diesel Military Tank Engines.

So the four operative words in two groups of two are:-
1.
Opposed cylinder.

2.
Opposed piston.

Simple

ENGINES.White Pancake Boxer Flat Horizontally Opposed 12-Cylinder Engine being serviced in a White mid underfloor engined,Motorcoach.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,653.7-2020.CurbsideClassic.Com.1#

ENGINES.White Pancake Boxer Flat Horizontally Opposed 12-Cylinder Engine being serviced in a White mid underfloor engined,Motorcoach.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,653.7-2020.CurbsideClassic.Com.1#.jpg

ENGINES.White 748,Mid Underfloor White Pancake Boxer Flat Horizontally Opposed 12-Cylinder Engined, Motorcoach.Preserved 1938 San Francico Municipal,No.042.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,653.7-2020.Spicoli-Flickr-Pinterest.4#

ENGINES.White 748,Mid Underfloor White Pancake Boxer Flat Horizontally Opposed 12-Cylinder Engined,Motorcoach.Preserved 1938 San Francisco Municipal,No.042.TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,653.7-2020.Spicoli-Flickr-Pinterest.4#.jpg

NOTE:A YouTube 15:31 duration film-video of the above White 748 Motorcoach (some title it a Bus )
shows it carrying passengers,running on the streets of San Francisco and from 1 minute to around 4:20
its White Pancake Boxer Flat Horizontally Opposed 12-Cylinder Gasoline-Petrol Engine can be seen.......
and heard running.The driver gives a good explanation of this engine


https://www.curbsideclassic.com/bus-sto ... buses-too/

VALKYRIE[/quote]
Nope, I stand by what I said. That first picture is simply a flat 16 cylinder engine. You can see eight plugs on one side which means there are eight on the other side. If it was an opposed piston engine the plugs would be in the middle. The TS3 was an opposed piston engine, the one in the picture isn't. The Deltic was opposed pistons with three cylinders, three crankshafts and six pistons per unit.

[oiltreader]

Couple for today, Buzzer.

2nd picture shows a BRS load of London Brick commons,handball on handball off,the commons used to cut your gloves/hands to ribbons.





David

David i think i can remember a gadget that was used and maybe someone can confirm, it was a sort of cantilever thing which had thin metal blades each side and could lift 5 or 6 bricks at a time. it was inserted over the bricks and lifted there bye operating the scissor pinch and then swung in the direction of the recipient and the pressure let go thus releasing the clasp on the bricks ready for catching and stacking, does anyone recollect such a piece of equipment, Buzzer

Buzzer,I can recall a set up IIRC called a Stacalift,or something similar that ran on rails on the edges of the flat on a ridged,used to up lift or deliver a lot more than 5 or 6 bricks though,London Brick had quite a few of them.


David

See working here David
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5-QjyYfjlo.
Oily

[5thwheel]

Well found oily,right description,wrong name though!

Not seen one of those before Buzzer,handy for small wall works.




David

[albion1938]

Well found oily,right description,wrong name though!

Not seen one of those before Buzzer,handy for small wall works.




David

Used to have similar but with ribbed rubber grippers on the ends for carrying vehicle batteries, much easier than carrying them with two hands out in front trying to avoid acid on the clothes! And when I was a nipper father and big brother both drove for a builder's merchant, I used to ride out with them and remember seeing the labourers on site unloading bricks with a sleeve of inner tube over each hand.
Bernard

[tyneside]

Few more randoms from Newcastle. Tyneside

[tyneside]

Another one Grey St Newcastle

[tyneside]

few from Wearside Tyneside

[Lawrence Dunbar]

Hi Tyneside, Thank you for posting these great photos from the past, Take care & stay safe my friend, Regards Larry.

[Frankydobo]

Good pics Tyneside I would think the rail car has more to do with the Tram system, they still operated until 1954 and there was a Tram workshop off Hylton Road, likely where the car is travelling to. They were possibly a line test/maint car. Franky.

[peterm]

As above, thanks for all those pic's to all who put them up. I wish I'd thought to take a few back in the day.

That AEC Mammoth brought back memories of Marston Valley as a kid helping to handball commons and sand face on. Just a cross round the back and we never lost one.

[Franglais]

few from Wearside Tyneside

Link to Blackpool Trams site. Similar, if not the exact same one?
http://blackpool-trams.yolasite.com/ele ... co-717.php
Built 1927, and first used as a coal wagon shunter by LNER. Currently used as shunter at tram museum Crich.

[Buzzer]

A couple of Louis Reece, Buzzer.

[oiltreader]

Thanks to Buzzer, VALKYRIE and tyneside for the pics and all the craic
Oily

Spares at Haisthorpe, East Riding Yorkshire, courtesy of Ian S.

[tyneside]

Thanks to Buzzer, VALKYRIE and tyneside for the pics and all the craic
Oily

Spares at Haisthorpe, East Riding Yorkshire, courtesy of Ian S.

Looking at that picture reminds of Jimmy Coates' yard at Wardley :- " Leyland half shaft son, just climb up that heap of axles you will find one at about six or seven high. Don't forget to take your ratchet and sockets up with you"

Tyneside

[Frankydobo]

Ha aye I was in Coates yard quite a few times when I was in the Van Hee workshop, first visit I came across two Seddon J Reg 32:Four:220 cabs, one had been my Dad's, I managed to get the small Seddon badge from the top of the front grille, I also found some old paperwork and payslips on the floor from the 70's, interesting to read the take home money from back then it didn't seem a lot even in the early 80's. Franky.

[pyewacket947v]

7 May 1985
Alfreton Road
Little Eaton
Derbys, ENG

Bare bones of a Alvis Stalwart,or as suggested by 'Ekawrecker' a modified
Salamander fire machine., ex MoD as seen by auction No,,
A variety of discarded cabs scattered around it.

[DEANB]

7 May 1985
Alfreton Road
Little Eaton
Derbys, ENG

Bare bones of a Alvis Stalwart,or as suggested by 'Ekawrecker' a modified
Salamander fire machine., ex MoD as seen by auction No,,
A variety of discarded cabs scattered around it.

Intresting pic.