Guy

[5thwheel]

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Great photo of Sunter's 6 X 2 Invincible MML,well found.




David

[moomooland]

Great photo of Sunter's 6 X 2 Invincible MML,well found. David

From previous page.

Thanks for the comment David.
Here's another of their Guy Invincible's, this time a 4x2, heading over the Pennines on the A62 towards Oldham.

[5thwheel]

Great photo of Sunter's 6 X 2 Invincible MML,well found. David

From previous page.

Guy Train-001.jpg

Sunters Guy A62-001.jpg

Thanks for the comment David.
Here's another of their Guy Invincible's, this time a 4x2, heading over the Pennines on the A62 towards Oldham.

That photo takes me right back MML,when I was on plant haulage for John Jones Excavations in Stockport,I used to tow those scraper boxes around the country with an ERF 6 X 2 with ballast box,I was governed to a max speed of 25 mph as the scraper wheel bearings tended to overheat above that..great days!



David

[moomooland]

Well I'll be...…….! That was the only fault that I found with the Big J, apart from having no skin on my left hand! My screen popped out between Beaconsfield and Slough one afternoon. The windscreen fitter was with me in about 20 minutes with a screen from an ERF A-series. They were the same part number and I was on my way in less than an hour of the occurrence.

Talking of the windscreens popping out, here's a shot taken shortly before the windscreens were fitted on the production line, looks like they just finishing installing the roof lining.

[Bewick]

Well I'll be...…….! That was the only fault that I found with the Big J, apart from having no skin on my left hand! My screen popped out between Beaconsfield and Slough one afternoon. The windscreen fitter was with me in about 20 minutes with a screen from an ERF A-series. They were the same part number and I was on my way in less than an hour of the occurrence.

Talking of the windscreens popping out, here's a shot taken shortly before the windscreens were fitted on the production line, looks like they just finishing installing the roof lining.

Guy PL-001.jpg

Would I be correct in assuming that this shot is Motor Panels line and not Guy's or did MP only supply the bare shell which was then trimmed at Fallings Park ? Cheers Bewick.

[pete smith]

Well I'll be...…….! That was the only fault that I found with the Big J, apart from having no skin on my left hand! My screen popped out between Beaconsfield and Slough one afternoon. The windscreen fitter was with me in about 20 minutes with a screen from an ERF A-series. They were the same part number and I was on my way in less than an hour of the occurrence.

Talking of the windscreens popping out, here's a shot taken shortly before the windscreens were fitted on the production line, looks like they just finishing installing the roof lining.

Guy PL-001.jpg

Would I be correct in assuming that this shot is Motor Panels line and not Guy's or did MP only supply the bare shell which was then trimmed at Fallings Park ? Cheers Bewick.

Hi Dennis,
It looks like Fallings Park, same low building with the glass in the roof!

[Bewick]

Your probably right there Pete and by the looks of those front "winker" glasses the shot is pre mid 70's as the later Big J's went onto Rubolite type. Cheers Dennis.

[pete smith]

Your probably right there Pete and by the looks of those front "winker" glasses the shot is pre mid 70's as the later Big J's went onto Rubolite type. Cheers Dennis.

It looks like an Ulverston born lad by the off side of the first cab... Stan Laurel!

[moomooland]

1965 registered Guy Warrior 4x2 tractor unit operated by E. Brown & Sons Beverley.

1974 registered Guy Big J 4xx2 tractor unit operated by P & O Roadways.

[Bewick]

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1965 registered Guy Invincible 4x2 tractor unit operated by E. Brown & Sons Beverley.

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1974 registered Guy Big J 4xx2 tractor unit operated by P & O Roadways.

The Browns Guy is the lightweight Warrior and not the heavier Invincible so I wonder what engine it had ? Leyland or AEC or maybe a 6LW. I assume it would have had the Eaton two speed axle and the Turner 5 speed box. Just a thought ! Cheers Bewick.

[Ste46]

Just dug this out - one of a pair of Invincible 6 wheel tippers we ran in the late 60s/early 70s, working out of Hoveringham Stone, Dene Quarry.
Any ex-Dene men on here may remember them, driven by Gerald Whitmore and Dennis Harrison?
(the AEC was also at Dene - driven by Alan Bunting)

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Steve

[moomooland]

1965 registered Guy Warrior eight wheeler tipper operated by J.Pelter & Sons Ltd of Carnforth.

Earl days at Thompson Transport of Grimethorpe Barnsley who operated this 1970 registered Guy Big J4 which is seen here in 1977.
The company are still very much in business today. Thompson Transport Website.

[moomooland]

Some of the brand new Guy Big J4's ready to go into service with British Rail in 1967 on their Freightliner service which at the time was British Rail's answer to the demand for improved transport of general merchandise traffic.

[Bewick]

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Some of the brand new Guy Big J4's ready to go into service with British Rail in 1967 on their Freightliner service which at the time was British Rail's answer to the demand for improved transport of general merchandise traffic.

I wonder which engine those BR Guys had ? V6 Cummins? or maybe the AEC 505 ? Cheers Bewick

[moomooland]

Guy in trouble....

[moomooland]

A pair of October 1975 registered Guy Big J 4's Reg No's KYV 552P and KYV 551P operated by Westfield Transport of Mansfield who had been owned by Pickford's since 1964, note the Pickfords fleet numbers front n/s above headlights

A later shot of Guy Big J4 Reg No KYV 552P now in full Pickfords livery, albeit a little battered around the wheel arch.

[Lawrence Dunbar]

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Pickfords Guy Big J4 Reg No KYV 552P, sporting a rather unusual cab, was new in October 1995.

Hi Moomooland, A P Reg IIRC Was 1976/7, Regards Larry.

[John West]

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Pickfords Guy Big J4 Reg No KYV 552P, sporting a rather unusual cab, was new in October 1995.

Hi Moomooland, A P Reg IIRC Was 1976/7, Regards Larry.

Hi Larry, my memory of it is that A was '63. E was the last full year registration, 1967, the motor trade didn't like not being able to sell anything in December, so F, 1968 was a short year. G was 68/69 and so on. No O, making P 75/76. No Q, so R was 76/77. I could be wrong...

John.

[moomooland]

Hi Moomooland, A P Reg IIRC Was 1976/7, Regards Larry.

Typo error.

KYV 552P and KYV 551P, pictured below, were both registered in October 1975.

[moomooland]

Looks like a proper grafter.

[Dieseldog66]

Pickfords KYV 552P-001.JPG

Pickfords Guy Big J4 Reg No KYV 552P, sporting a rather unusual cab, was new in October 1995.

Hi Moomooland, A P Reg IIRC Was 1976/7, Regards Larry.

Hi Larry, my memory of it is that A was '63. E was the last full year registration, 1967, the motor trade didn't like not being able to sell anything in December, so F, 1968 was a short year. G was 68/69 and so on. No O, making P 75/76. No Q, so R was 76/77. I could be wrong...

John.

E Reg only lasted from January 67 to July 67 it then went F August 1st to July 31st 1968 and so on

[Retired Old Fart]

GUY BR-001.jpg

Some of the brand new Guy Big J4's ready to go into service with British Rail in 1967 on their Freightliner service which at the time was British Rail's answer to the demand for improved transport of general merchandise traffic.

I wonder which engine those BR Guys had ? V6 Cummins? or maybe the AEC 505 ? Cheers Bewick

Being NFC I dare say that they were a similar spec to most of the BRS fleet- 205 Cummins.
Paid for in the main by poor, tax-paying Cumbrian hauliers.

[moomooland]

[[zb] anorak]

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A pair of October 1975 registered Guy Big J 4's Reg No's KYV 552P and KYV 551P operated by Westfield Transport of Mansfield who had been owned by Pickford's since 1964, note the Pickfords fleet numbers front n/s above headlights

Pickfords KYV 552P-001.JPG

A later shot of Guy Big J4 Reg No KYV 552P now in full Pickfords livery, albeit a little battered around the wheel arch.

Those sleeper conversions look very well engineered- long chassis, long cab plus the ice-cream van roof, all in1975. No Cummins badges on the grilles- I wonder if the extra-long cab was there to shelter the rear cylinders?

[pete smith]

GUY BR-001.jpg

Some of the brand new Guy Big J4's ready to go into service with British Rail in 1967 on their Freightliner service which at the time was British Rail's answer to the demand for improved transport of general merchandise traffic.

I wonder which engine those BR Guys had ? V6 Cummins? or maybe the AEC 505 ? Cheers Bewick

Being NFC I dare say that they were a similar spec to most of the BRS fleet- 205 Cummins.
Paid for in the main by poor, tax-paying Cumbrian hauliers.

ROF,
You will never win a peace prize!

[Retired Old Fart]

I gave up trying for one of those many years ago, Pete. Much more fun going for the Wooden Spoon award! Now, about those two pots under the Big J sleepers?

[Bewick]

GUY BR-001.jpg

Some of the brand new Guy Big J4's ready to go into service with British Rail in 1967 on their Freightliner service which at the time was British Rail's answer to the demand for improved transport of general merchandise traffic.

I wonder which engine those BR Guys had ? V6 Cummins? or maybe the AEC 505 ? Cheers Bewick

Being NFC I dare say that they were a similar spec to most of the BRS fleet- 205 Cummins.
Paid for in the main by poor, tax-paying Cumbrian hauliers.

ROF,
You will never win a peace prize!

More like cause a Third World war !

[Retired Old Fart]

I'm trying, Dennis. But if I succeed, can I join the Croatian army?

[pyewacket947v]

1969 and the first truck i ever drove for a living.
AOM 984B a Guy Invincible 8 wheel tipper
One of two belonging to James F G Hare of Kings Norton, Birmingham.
Photographed in Ashwood Dale Quarry, Buxton,Derbys
Put bluntly it was about as much use as a chocolate tea pot for Peak District hauling.
Single drive with a dead trailing axle, no shock absorbers and brakes that where wishful thinking.
Given its drive line, a Gardner 6LX, and a David Brown 6 speed gearbox on paper it would have climbed the side of a house if asked to.
But, it would not climb up into Ashwood Dale when the ground was wet, let alone icy, or covered in snow, which tended to happen in Buxton
anytime between October and the end of May,or was it June.!
The springs broke with monotonous regularity, the Tecalamit chassis lubrication drive belt never stayed on for more than a hour or so.
The windscreens broke for the hell of it, usually when it was raining .
Easter Saturday 1969 her sisters brakes went on strike just as i began to descend into Ashbourne, Market Day.
I used the big stone wall alongside the church, below the 'Bowling Green' to stop her.
That was another visit to Fallings Park and a bill of £1,060,00..
I was glad to see the back of them, replaced with Scania 110s.

mmm, they looked good though.!

[revman]

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