Rear steer learning

Saw a c+e rear steer training school lgv on the road last week, what are peoples opinions on learning in one of these, reversing etc.

It’s no big deal tbh. Reacts a bit faster when reversing. Slightly different going forward as well. But you’d not know that if you hadn’t driven a normal artic.

I’m going to go out on a limb and say that it’s not a single axle rear steer unit. If it’s a twin axle you won’t find it too much of a handful. And in some ways it will make things a bit easier.

I drive em all the time. None make me worry unduly. Single axle rearstears are a bit of a nightmare to reverse in a straight line.

They’re much the same as any other artic trailer as far as I’m concerned.
My trailer locks in upon selecting reverse gear (so long as the units wheels are straight and in line) enabling me to back up with all trailer wheels locked into the fixed, straight position.

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hiabman:
They’re much the same as any other artic trailer as far as I’m concerned.
My trailer locks in upon selecting reverse gear (so long as the units wheels are straight and in line) enabling me to back up with all trailer wheels locked into the fixed, straight position.

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That must have taken a bit of getting used to, where the trailer pivot point reversing is different to going forward, does it take a bit of thinking about reversing into tight places if you need a shunt or two?

Juddian:

hiabman:
They’re much the same as any other artic trailer as far as I’m concerned.
My trailer locks in upon selecting reverse gear (so long as the units wheels are straight and in line) enabling me to back up with all trailer wheels locked into the fixed, straight position.

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That must have taken a bit of getting used to, where the trailer pivot point reversing is different to going forward, does it take a bit of thinking about reversing into tight places if you need a shunt or two?

The passive steer ones (that this is) as hiabman says locks when you select reverse but they will not lock unless you are actually straight, so yes if shunting about a bit you do need to plan that into the manouver.

However if it’s a tight area that you will be manouvering in then you’d lock the steer axle off manually before entering the yard via an air valve button (just like a shunt or park brake button) and then manually unlock it again when you wanted the passive steer back.

I always remember my gaffer at the time going round the yard on a Sat morning checking that the passive steer was active and not locked on all the trailers, and duly dishing out bollockings if they were locked, apparently they saved a substantial amount on tyre scrub wear