Lorry drivers should be banned from using sat-navs specifically designed for cars, council chiefs have said.
The Local Government Association (LGA) wants legislation brought in to make sure lorry drivers in England and Wales use a GPS system suitable for HGVs.
Had to laugh this morning on the news.
Apparently the Government are advocating making the use of car sat navs illegal in trucks. 
What a ■■■■ insult to drivers, they are just pandering to the stereotypical image of truck drivers being thick, uneducated and inept, do you not feel insulted by this? As i am ■■■■ sure that I do. 
■■■■ unreal 
So before you come on and say you agree, just think about that one.
In effect they are saying drivers are too stupid to differentiate between a guide and an instruction, so let’s have a blanket ban.
Sure it will maybe stop all the ■■■■ ups, , but is it not chucking out the baby with the bathwater, a car sat nav in the right hands is sufficient to do the job.
If you feel the need for a truck one, then crack on, fill yer boots, I do not, and I manage quite well, thank you, (and tbh on my job doing farms in very remote areas, it would tell me I could not get anywhere as most of the roads aint truck friendly to say the least.)
Are they going that step further to make them compulsory, what about guys who do not have a one, nor need a one, is this another 300 quid they are to be forced into paying by law in order to do the job.
It’s typical of this country, they say that ‘‘You can’t legislate for idiocy’’ but this country continues to do so and ban things right left and centre.
The same reason I can no longer go and buy a case of special offer dirt cheap beer to watch the football, because of the ■■■■ heads who can not have a drink without getting rat arsed.
Ok, For arguments sake I really don’t think this will get off the ground, but maybe a legislative compulsory aptitude test for potential drivers is the better answer.
Point being that once over the ■■■■ whits could not get through the net, as trucks and cars were like chalk and cheese to drive, but now they are getting through said net.
I dont mean academic knowledge either, I’ve known lads who can hardly read or write who are excellent drivers, it’s the in bred terminally stupid with Class 1s I’m on about, the type who try and get a 15’ trailer under a 12’ bridge…and succeed. The ones who think nothing of going down a road built for horse and carts ‘‘Cos sat nav SENT me that way’’ 
the famous overtaking cut in artists whose trucks are too ■■■■ long for them to judge distance.
We have all met them, there are even at least 3 on here that I can think of judging by their posts, so instead of tarring us with the same brush in government legislation, get rid of these ■■■■ ers who give us ALL a bad name.
Good luck with that one
I would think ban agency drivers would be a better idea 
Blanket ban be good ,it would make drivers think about where they are going if they had to look on maps first be it paper or google , we got drivers here who have only ever driven on sat nav and go to regular destinations and still can’t tell you how to get there and don’t know where they are on route when asked .
Punchy Dan:
Blanket ban be good ,it would make drivers think about where they are going if they had to look on maps first be it paper or google , we got drivers here who have only ever driven on sat nav and go to regular destinations and still can’t tell you how to get there and don’t know where they are on route when asked .
That’s my whole point though Dan on blanket bans, why should I and others have to be banned from using one, just because of inept drivers actions.
What a load of cr@p. Ive had an ordinary Nav for years, i just dont rely on it though prefering maps instead. Problem is many see a nav nowadays as the only way of navigation. Just a realisation of length/weight/height is all thats needed…and a little bit of common sense thrown in for good measure…
Doesn’t bother me, I don’t use one.
Agree with all the above, and…who’s paying for these truck navs? Not everyone can afford to bung out several hundred E/£’s for a dedicated nav anyway. A £/Eur 50 car nav will do the job.
Theyre just an aid to navigation though, too many rely on them totally without carrying a map of any sort. The UK govt needs to issue a comprehensive truck road map to every driver showing no goes for artics ect and bridge heights, much more helpful and cheaper to boot…
Have to agree it’s drivers that hit bridges, go into tiny villages and get stuck bashing walls etc not sat navs.
But to spin it into a different direction say it did become illegal to use a car nav. Surely that would mean if you had a truck nav and you happened to crack a bridge or get stuck in a village you couldn’t get into any bother as the goverment have said truck navs are legal and fit for purpose.
I don’t use a sat nav at all, my road knowledge is good enough to get me to a place and I just google map the last few miles if its completely new to me. Google maps show train lines and you can just street view it to see the height of bridges.
Trouble is new drivers have never known anything but sat nav, so they are ■■■■■■■ clueess in the art of sniffing out a customer. Or if the ■■■ lighter is broken they start crying in the transport office for another truck 
Ban the agency driver problem solved
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I can see that all bridge strikes are potentially very dangerous, and most are costly. (even when there is no damage there are closures diversions etc during examinations). Intelligent steps should be taken to avoid them. I do question if SatNavs are in any way responsible? Many drivers used to use paper atlases with bridge heights marked, but many used non specialised ones too. No one blamed the wrong sort of maps then. Does anyone have any stats showing how many bridge strikes were made by vehicles using car or truck SatNavs? Any figures on whether signed both in imperial and metric and if UK or Eu drivers?? There may well be a problem but I cant see any evidence that this proposal will fix anything. [bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38775559](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38775559) From Rogs link: " It wants councils to have the power to ensure drivers avoid routes where they exceed the weight or height limit."
What? Surely councils can already make weight/height limits which the police etc can enforce?
If there is a low bridge on a road sign it, in advance, where there is a place to take an alternative route. Sign a route for high vehicles. Prosecute those who take a banned route rather than a signed correct route. It ain`t difficult to do.
My truck nav wanted me to go down an Unsuitable for motor vehicles lane last week. I saw the sign and spun her round. Truck sat navs arent the answer. Competent drivers are.
Companies want to pay peanuts for drivers who got their licence by completing 2 laps in a field driving a tractor in slovakia. You reap what you sow 
I use google maps but if it tells me to go down a road that looks unstable then I don’t go down it. As for height restrictions I have eyes… Sure I’d like a truck satnav but I’m not paying £600 for one
I’d like to know the actual number of bridge strikes caused by drivers blindly following their car sat nav. I bet it’s not that many as people would have you believe. Probably more to do with the driver not knowing their vehicle height or just not paying attention. Bit unfair to ban the use of car sat navs.
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Actually, I’m 100% in favour of banning truckers from using “Car” SatNavs.
If this were done, and properly enforced - we’d finally get the shortage of drivers manifest itself in such a way that a full time trucker’s salary would come up alongside a Train Driver’s salary within a year or two.
This would mean the higher wages arrive before leaving the EU causes us to drop out of the “48 hour max week” which employers don’t bloody well follow to our advantage anyway.
Result? - £56k salary for a max 48 hour week, rigidly enforced by a new Union that has sprung up to represent Agency drivers, now that they have become the majority in the feet-of-clay haulage industry.
Note the drivers are not named. This isn’t to “avoid invasion of privacy”.
It’s to make sure we don’t find out that it is a non-local driver (let’s say) who doesn’t know how to drive a truck without using the original driver’s sat nav, and the only one that should be used.
What percentage are resident UK drivers who do this 
- or is it all non UK drivers
if your using a car sat nav and driving a 44t artic you might as well drive with blinkers on,i youse a truck sat nav you still need a bit of common sense. have a look at a hgv road map and compare directions with sat nav. if it says turn left and it looks a bit tight,would you really take the chance? pull up youse the phone for contact on paperwork. or get out the cab and ask someone with local knowledge.simples