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A question about night out allowance

Postby Sploom » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:03 pm

I see jobs saying £25 night allowance, is this normally your money, or do you have to pay parking fees out of it?
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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby kcrussell25 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:06 pm

Yours.

Decent companies will pay parking extra of wanted/required.

Some won't pay and then you choose either park free or spend it on parking...
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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby harrawaffa » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:11 pm

It's for you and you spend it on what you want - food drink showers etc. It's not to pay for the parking of your bosses truck.
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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby Sploom » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:19 pm

Cheers guys
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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby robroy » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:21 pm

kcrussell25 wrote:Yours.

Decent companies will pay parking extra of wanted/required.

Some won't pay and then you choose either park free or spend it on parking...

You should NEVER pay for your own parking. :roll: if you do you're a bloody fool....end of.
Even my lot pay for parking, but if they didn't, I'd deliberately park in the most potential place to get my load/fuel nicked.
They would sure as hell pay for parking eventually after that.....so don't encourage the tight arsed [zb] s !! :idea:
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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby kcrussell25 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:25 pm

robroy wrote:
kcrussell25 wrote:Yours.

Decent companies will pay parking extra of wanted/required.

Some won't pay and then you choose either park free or spend it on parking...

You should NEVER pay for your own parking. :roll: if you do you're a bloody fool....end of.
Even my lot pay for parking, but if they didn't, I'd deliberately park in the most potential place to get my load/fuel nicked.
They would sure as hell pay for parking eventually after that.....so don't encourage the tight arsed [zb] s !! :idea:


Just to be clear I am not encouraging anyone to pay for parking that they can't get back but I know some do.

I get parking paid which I may or may not use depending on location. If I didn't have the option I wouldn't take the job in the first place
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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby cheekymonkey » Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:01 pm

35 yrs since I did a night out.
1.Can anyone enlighten me, when did drivers start paying to park the bosses truck?
2. Why do they do it?
I am genuinely baffled by this notion of paying to park out of the drivers subsistence money, so if anyone could enlighten me.....
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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby robroy » Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:13 pm

cheekymonkey wrote:35 yrs since I did a night out.
1.Can anyone enlighten me, when did drivers start paying to park the bosses truck?
2. Why do they do it?
I am genuinely baffled by this notion of paying to park out of the drivers subsistence money, so if anyone could enlighten me.....


1. Some idiots started paying for parking when their bosses saw they were actually stupid enough to do so.

2.A combination of stupidity, spinelessness, and insanity.

Hope that enlightened you. :D
(And for the record I'm also baffled...but sadly not surprised. :roll: )
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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby mrginge » Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:17 pm

Who actually knows someone who has ever paid to park knowing they wouldn't get the money back?

It's all "I heard" "Someone told me".
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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby kcrussell25 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:30 pm

mrginge wrote:Who actually knows someone who has ever paid to park knowing they wouldn't get the money back?

It's all "I heard" "Someone told me".


I have seen people complaining on Facebook about paying to park from their night out money and it not covering it and making up the difference if that counts?
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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby robroy » Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:32 pm

mrginge wrote:Who actually knows someone who has ever paid to park knowing they wouldn't get the money back?

It's all "I heard" "Someone told me".

Know what you're saying mate, but I'd bet a week's wages that some sure as hell do, ...maybe even some on here, but nobody is going to admit it are they. :roll:

As I've said before,.drivers never cease to amaze me in what they do and what they are willing to put up with, without questioning it.
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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby mrginge » Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:37 pm

kcrussell25 wrote:
mrginge wrote:Who actually knows someone who has ever paid to park knowing they wouldn't get the money back?

It's all "I heard" "Someone told me".


I have seen people complaining on Facebook about paying to park from their night out money and it not covering it and making up the difference if that counts?


Ok then it does happen considering what they post all their 'friends' see so hopefully they get laughed at and judged. :twisted:
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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby commonrail » Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:32 pm

mrginge wrote:Who actually knows someone who has ever paid to park knowing they wouldn't get the money back?

It's all "I heard" "Someone told me".


I don't.
Why would you :?
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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby kcrussell25 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:35 pm

mrginge wrote:
kcrussell25 wrote:
mrginge wrote:Who actually knows someone who has ever paid to park knowing they wouldn't get the money back?

It's all "I heard" "Someone told me".


I have seen people complaining on Facebook about paying to park from their night out money and it not covering it and making up the difference if that counts?


Ok then it does happen considering what they post all their 'friends' see so hopefully they get laughed at and judged. :twisted:



To be fair the couple of posts I saw they very much were judged
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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby wolves » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:51 am

robroy wrote:
kcrussell25 wrote:Yours.

Decent companies will pay parking extra of wanted/required.

Some won't pay and then you choose either park free or spend it on parking...

You should NEVER pay for your own parking. :roll: if you do you're a bloody fool....end of.
Even my lot pay for parking, but if they didn't, I'd deliberately park in the most potential place to get my load/fuel nicked.
They would sure as hell pay for parking eventually after that.....so don't encourage the tight arsed [zb] s !! :idea:
I don't do tramping fella not interested in it. But my mate does tramping, I remember him telling me while back, he has to claim back money from receipts, they don't pay him night money into account. He can only spend night money (that qualifies for night out payments) to get receipts for shower, parking, food and spare parts blubs etc. Some things don't 'qualify' even if they are cheap enough to buy (I can't remember what they are but I will ask him later) so he not get money back from receipts . Because he takes his own food I vaguely remember him telling me not much to spend on but parking. I give him a bell later to check but I'm sure this is it.
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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby wolves » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:26 am

wolves wrote:
robroy wrote:
kcrussell25 wrote:Yours.

Decent companies will pay parking extra of wanted/required.

Some won't pay and then you choose either park free or spend it on parking...

You should NEVER pay for your own parking. :roll: if you do you're a bloody fool....end of.
Even my lot pay for parking, but if they didn't, I'd deliberately park in the most potential place to get my load/fuel nicked.
They would sure as hell pay for parking eventually after that.....so don't encourage the tight arsed [zb] s !! :idea:
I don't do tramping fella not interested in it. But my mate does tramping, I remember him telling me while back, he has to claim back money from receipts, they don't pay him night money into account. He can only spend night money (that qualifies for night out payments) to get receipts for shower, parking, food and spare parts blubs etc. Some things don't 'qualify' even if they are cheap enough to buy (I can't remember what they are but I will ask him later) so he not get money back from receipts . Because he takes his own food I vaguely remember him telling me not much to spend on but parking. I give him a bell later to check but I'm sure this is it.
Just spoke to him. He can spend on anything pretty much and claim back receipts, few exclusions which are, wholesale food items, electronics battery, cigarettes, achohol, prescription medicines, iron wool, certain types of cleaning product(damage paintwork), chewing gum, chocolate (summertime only) and few other can't remember but not too many more. But they do recommend he use money for parking for his safety. [zb]!
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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby edd1974 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:09 am

Last place I worked at. Was there 2 years got £25 cash in hand on a Fri for every night out I had once handed I time sheet.
Then out the blue they starter asking us all for reciepts

Wanted them.for food stuff.bought on nights out god.knows why.
Told the woman I take stuff and.you trying getting a recipet from snack vans local shops etc..
Use.to just hand her reciepts from Tesco weatherspoons for my tea etc.
Duno why as still got 25 a night anyway

Plus be interesting hear what others get paid per night out.

I've been on 25 for 4 years now. Personally think should be raised as over past 4 years price of food etc bass risen . Yes we have had a 3%pay rise last year. 1st one ever but so did day drivers.
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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby yourhavingalarf » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:13 am

Night out allowance...

Can be asked for in cash (and must be paid accordingly in cash) before you leave the yard.

Any company that knows its workers will incur business expenses must have the facilty to fund those expenses in cash if the employee asks for it.
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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby toonsy » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:33 am

edd1974 wrote:Last place I worked at. Was there 2 years got £25 cash in hand on a Fri for every night out I had once handed I time sheet.
Then out the blue they starter asking us all for reciepts

Wanted them.for food stuff.bought on nights out god.knows why.
Told the woman I take stuff and.you trying getting a recipet from snack vans local shops etc..
Use.to just hand her reciepts from Tesco weatherspoons for my tea etc.
Duno why as still got 25 a night anyway

Plus be interesting hear what others get paid per night out.

I've been on 25 for 4 years now. Personally think should be raised as over past 4 years price of food etc bass risen . Yes we have had a 3%pay rise last year. 1st one ever but so did day drivers.


I get £20 tax free in wages per night out plus any parking reimbursed, including meal vouchers if added.

I also get £10 daily food allowance which is tax free whether I'm out or just on a day run.

They also gave us a 12% pay rise in November.
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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby peirre » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:08 am

I’m aware of a couple of firms who only pay the 1st £15 of parking
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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby Santa » Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:41 pm

I think it may have started when some firms became aware that some places gave a receipt for parking but that included a free meal etc. They saw this as cheating because the NO allowance is supposed to pay for the meal.

I used to do it: pay £20 for parking overnight and get a 'free' meal, which would have cost £10 and claim back the £20.
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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby commonrail » Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:55 pm

peirre wrote:I’m aware of a couple of firms who only pay the 1st £15 of parking


My company pay the first £14...so effectively don't pay for parking.
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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby robroy » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:27 pm

Santa wrote:I think it may have started when some firms became aware that some places gave a receipt for parking but that included a free meal etc. They saw this as cheating because the NO allowance is supposed to pay for the meal.

I used to do it: pay £20 for parking overnight and get a 'free' meal, which would have cost £10 and claim back the £20.

That annoys the hell out of me does that.
A meal voucher is part of the contract of parking, it's an inclusive perk for the driver, so has [zb] all to do with the firm.
The problem started when some places offered a choice of 2 parking tickets, one with one without, so the greedier firms (such as mine :evil: ) picked up on it and insist on the driver handing in the non meal ticket.
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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby robroy » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:32 pm

commonrail wrote:
peirre wrote:I’m aware of a couple of firms who only pay the 1st £15 of parking


My company pay the first £14...so effectively don't pay for parking.

Ask your boss if when he goes for a pint, does he tells the barman he'll only pay the first £2.50 towards it, if he says 'No' , then ask him why he does the same (or at least ask you) to park HIS truck....effin ridiculous.
Go on, I mean it, ask him for real...and see what he says. :idea:
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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby albion » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:04 pm

edd1974 wrote:Last place I worked at. Was there 2 years got £25 cash in hand on a Fri for every night out I had once handed I time sheet.
Then out the blue they starter asking us all for reciepts

Wanted them.for food stuff.bought on nights out god.knows why.
Told the woman I take stuff and.you trying getting a recipet from snack vans local shops etc..
Use.to just hand her reciepts from Tesco weatherspoons for my tea etc.
Duno why as still got 25 a night anyway

Plus be interesting hear what others get paid per night out.

I've been on 25 for 4 years now. Personally think should be raised as over past 4 years price of food etc bass risen . Yes we have had a 3%pay rise last year. 1st one ever but so did day drivers.



Probably when HMRC were faffing about saying that they wanted receipts for night out money.
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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby dcgpx » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:05 pm

yourhavingalarf wrote:Night out allowance...

Can be asked for in cash (and must be paid accordingly in cash) before you leave the yard.

Any company that knows its workers will incur business expenses must have the facilty to fund those expenses in cash if the employee asks for it.


Might try this next time I’m asked to do a planned night out

Can’t wait to see their faces and excuses as to why I should just put it on timesheet and get paid week after !




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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby dcgpx » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:06 pm

peirre wrote:I’m aware of a couple of firms who only pay the 1st £15 of parking


Not many places now are below £20, most are bloody nearer £30!


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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby commonrail » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:41 pm

robroy wrote:
commonrail wrote:
peirre wrote:I’m aware of a couple of firms who only pay the 1st £15 of parking


My company pay the first £14...so effectively don't pay for parking.

Ask your boss if when he goes for a pint, does he tells the barman he'll only pay the first £2.50 towards it, if he says 'No' , then ask him why he does the same (or at least ask you) to park HIS truck....effin ridiculous.
Go on, I mean it, ask him for real...and see what he says. :idea:

I don't use truckstops.
Last firm I worked for(who did pay for parking)threatened to withhold my night out money..if I didn't start parking securely.
I told them to put me on days...and it was soon brushed under the carpet :P
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Re: A question about night out allowance

Postby robroy » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:29 pm

commonrail wrote:
robroy wrote:
commonrail wrote:
peirre wrote:I’m aware of a couple of firms who only pay the 1st £15 of parking


My company pay the first £14...so effectively don't pay for parking.

Ask your boss if when he goes for a pint, does he tells the barman he'll only pay the first £2.50 towards it, if he says 'No' , then ask him why he does the same (or at least ask you) to park HIS truck....effin ridiculous.
Go on, I mean it, ask him for real...and see what he says. :idea:

I don't use truckstops.
Last firm I worked for(who did pay for parking)threatened to withhold my night out money..if I didn't start parking securely.
I told them to put me on days...and it was soon brushed under the carpet :P


Only time I use them is if I'm carrying anything valuable, they aint entirely safe, but it's an arse covering excercise on my part.
I prefer my own little locations I've saved up over the years.

I would definitely still ask him though if it was me, if only just to point out how ridiculous that policy is, ....not to mention a bit of a bloody cheek expecting his drivers to subsidise his running costs. :roll:
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