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Sadly the leave campaign didn’t think they would win so had no plan in place when they did. The consequenses we are now living with.
.It’s becoming increasingly clear that the Cons never intended to deliver a Leave vote regardless of the fake ‘referendum’ ( opinion poll if Leave won and binding vote if Remain won ) result.The equally fake ‘Brexit Ministry’ and Brexit ‘Minister/s’ were just part of the same scam to fool the Leave vote.The predictable and intended consequences we are now lumbered with in the form of May’s ( Cameron’s ) Remain + and the derailing of UKIP both domestically and in Europe.Why would anyone expect anything different from the party which took us into the EU and which made its Remain position clear to the electorate in both referenda.The ideological difference between a Federalist v Nationalist being so great that Davis’ and Raab’s fake ‘protests’ and fake resignation from a fake Ministry are laughably obvious when compared to Powell’s sincere and uncompromising position on Europe v his Conservative peers.
While the word is that this Remain + deal seals us into this Federal ■■■■■■■■ to the point where even if we get an effective UKIP opposition holding the balance of power it would now take a war of secession to get us out because it’s binding on any future administration.Good luck with that with the obviously equally quisling Royal perogative.Make no mistake this is very scary stuff with the government now undoubtedly clearly working in the interests of a foreign unelected power and having now finally also removed any right to secede from it that we might have had.
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Surely there are some serious electoral irregularities if what is being said here is true. Enough for criminal charges here and abroad!!■■
I’ve said in a previous post that I’m not in favour of another vote but the info in this post , if true, would be a game changer.
To put the question again, with both sides ‘prepared’ and the absence of ‘Project Fear’ and ‘Project Over-Positive’, it might give one side or the other a decent majority to form a mandate around. If it came out as ‘leave’ the arch Brexiteers could do their stuff, knowing they have real backing and support. If it came out as ‘remain’, well, remain is remain.
With regards to being ‘locked-in’ to the new agreement wasn’t there some suggestion that we could justifiably just walk away from our current situation. How would this be different for May’s deal?