Carryfast:
We already actually have a better more balanced trading relationship with the US than the EU.While we obviously don’t have nor need any ‘influence’ over the US conformity standards that such trade has to meet as part of that.So why the big thing about so called ‘influence’ when it’s obvious that our influence within the EU v the Commissioners and majority foreign vote is meaningless anyway.
Note that we are net importers of foods. Foods are not generally thought to be an option. Jaguars are. In a trade war, as Ive already suggested we AND everyone would loose. They would loose their lovely Jags.... As a small State how would we fair in future deals with the US? Probably worse than as a larger economy within the EU? OK, Trump wont be there forever, but who will be the next US Pres? As an isolated economy wed be out in the cold. Why dont we have a good balance of payments? It isn`t because of a dastardly plan by the EU. It is because our manufacturing industry has been run down by under investment. Tax breaks are going in share bonuses today, rather than in investing in future profits for tomorrow. All due to our National Govs choices.
Carryfast:
As for punishing us with trade sanctions for the crime of secession great we sell a few less than the already few Jaguars etc that we sell in the EU.But then we disproportionately tax and quota the zb out of German imports disproportionately in retaliation while also opening the door to more US imports and/or UK made US products thereby providing more incentive for even more UK/US trade.
Its not trade sanctions were talking about, its the WTO. We signed up to it years ago... Never thought it would to bite us like it soon may however. And again youre talking about trade with the US. A big economy for us to deal with. Not a comparable economy to us, such as Germany, France etc. I can`t see “America Great Again” Trump, or any successor giving us a better deal than we already have. And any deal, even a brilliant one, will surely take many years to thrash out?
Carryfast:
Which is a lot better than the deal we’ve got now in which our net importer status
As I said we arent a net importer through choice. We arent making goods at the right price what people want to buy. We can export more of course: drop our prices. Well you may want that in the “more competitive Britain” we hear of, personally I don`t fancy a pay cut.
Carryfast:
As for the NHS budget it’s obvious that the NHS is suffering from a massive budget deficit as a result of all that lost cash.
It is a National Governments responsibility to collect and spend monies on health provision. Our successive govs have failed miserably. That some of them try and point the finger of blame at the EU is ludicrous, when other EU countries are doing OK. That any thinking person would actually believe their spin is amazing.