limeyphil:
if the load needs securing, then there are no ifs or buts. you secure it.
if it dosn’t need any, or just a few straps, then fair enough.
That’s exactly what I’ve been saying, the breakdown here is in common sense were the Germans are insisting on every pair of pallets being ‘secured’ which in many instances it just mad. I used to take cardboard drums of pharmacuticals to Switzerland stacked two high on the pallet, and with 48 pallets in each load these were also two high. Each pair of pallets were ‘pallet wrapped’ together and the full load was less than 9 tons, would you strap each pair of pallets?? I didn’t and never had a problem, the problem is that now, the Belgians & Germans are insisting on it, and this is the ‘line’ you seemed to be taking.
Of course, if it needs securing it should be strapped, the fact is, many palletised loads simply sit there and dont move.
limeyphil:
so what’s actually be said, is the germans are fineing for an insecure load, when it isn’t
Yes, that’s precisely what I’m saying and here’s a perfect example:
Wheel Nut:
Buzzardboy asked for some pictures of well secured loads on another thread. I couldn’t show him any, but at risk of getting slated I will post these.
The sender loads these coffee jars through both sides
The pallets are interleaved, capped and shrink wrapped for hygiene and security
This is the only restraint required, and allowed by
the buyer as they can only tip through the rear doors
The Germans, Belgians & it seems now the Swiss ‘bogies’ would require another 13 straps on this load despite IMHO being as safe as houses, I used to load pickle jars just like the above from Rotherham to Seville and only ‘crossed’ the rear pallets in exactly the same way as above!! (my trailer wasn’t as nice tho)
all joking aside, I have carried 1000’s of loads millions of miles around Europe, some needed securing, some didn’t, some couldn’t be secured apart from by the structure of the trailer, some needed both restraints and a suitable trailer to keep the load secured, in all my time driving I have never had a load shift or fall off, I have had to perform emergency (avoiding) braking/steering on countless occasions and not had any problems, I have even had a road subside while I was parked on it (very heavy rain) and the load didn’t move. The important thing is knowing what to do with the load you are carrying, and being the driver I am likely to understand the load far better than some ■■■ with a clip board and a degree in being a pita,
Any time I didn’t know how to secure a particular type of load I have asked at the loading point, either the company or other drivers loading the same products. We can all throw loads of straps over a load, that doesn’t necessarily make it more or less secure, it may just give the illusion of being so!
jimti:
all joking aside, I have carried 1000’s of loads millions of miles around Europe, some needed securing, some didn’t, some couldn’t be secured apart from by the structure of the trailer, some needed both restraints and a suitable trailer to keep the load secured, in all my time driving I have never had a load shift or fall off, I have had to perform emergency (avoiding) braking/steering on countless occasions and not had any problems, I have even had a road subside while I was parked on it (very heavy rain) and the load didn’t move. The important thing is knowing what to do with the load you are carrying, and being the driver I am likely to understand the load far better than some ■■■ with a clip board and a degree in being a pita,
Any time I didn’t know how to secure a particular type of load I have asked at the loading point, either the company or other drivers loading the same products. We can all throw loads of straps over a load, that doesn’t necessarily make it more or less secure, it may just give the illusion of being so!
exactly jimti, you drive the vehicle according to your load.
