Where do i stand

Trucker beads:
Hi again, ill read to you from my contract word for word what it says regarding this…

You may be required to work up to a maximum of a 48hour working week, averaged out over the periord of months used to calculate the working time regulations this is expected to result in you being required to normally work on a 5day week shift system with you taking 2 days off during the week.

Then it goes on to say …

You may also be required by [ Company name ] to work in excess of a 48 hour working week in any particular week, by up to the maximum 60hours limit, so long as the total amount of hours worked does not exceed the maxumum period laid out in the working time regulations this may mean that you are asked up to 6 days a week on certain weeks but that you will be able to claw back any time you work over the 48hours as additional time off within the calculating period …

Now this makes no sence to me coming from army life to this crap is bizare im afraid so its bareing with me sorry…

No overtime will be paid to you and this forms part of your contract of employment. Drivers who normally averange a 40hour week, may be eligible to be migrated for a certain period of the year to the higher 48 hour working week banding structure, but { company name } may also bring their pay band down, once their average hours fall to or below the standard 40 hour working week band.

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Ahhhh…this changes things somewhat. Basically, what the contract is saying is you’ll be paid for 48hours but you may have to work 60…but…In other weeks, to make sure you don’t go over your 48 hour average week, you might only work 30 hours…that way it’ll bring your average hours to 48. Its a ■■■■ handed system but it works because its flexible.

My advice though is to write down all your hours worked each week and make sure your average hours over 17 weeks isn’t more than 48, because if it is then you’ll be entitled to either days off or over time pay. But here’s where it can work in your favour…

Companies have a legal responsibility to make sure they roster your work correctly so you don’t break the law…therefore if in 17 weeks, your average hours are more than 48, then they’ve broken the law. If you’ve worked more than 48 then demand double or triple pay for the overtime hours or you’ll report them to VOSA. But you’ll have to watch your hours very closely and get 17 weeks worth of hours.

Adam once again ya a star :slight_smile:

To this i ordered a hour guard, cause im hopeless at keeping track so ill get them, cause i no for a fact ill be doing 60plus, 1 driver goes sick the tm and gm drive its terrible

Trucker beads:
Adam once again ya a star :slight_smile:

To this i ordered a hour guard, cause im hopeless at keeping track so ill get them, cause i no for a fact ill be doing 60plus, 1 driver goes sick the tm and gm drive its terrible

No wories mate…unfortunately the laws are a lot more complex then desired, but they’re only this complex to fill in any loop holes and to allow some flexibility. I can understand about trying to adjust back into civi life…iv heard quite a lot of stories of ex military guys, some rather tragic. Hope you get it sorted out though mate :slight_smile:

hehe thanks m8 for all the help, will keep this updated as i go along hopfully next time will be good news but hey, in this industry you never no what you might get :slight_smile: :laughing:

Update

Went and seen the Gm today, discussed my situation and he dont seem to understand the driving hour law, but i managed to wangle thursday and friday off instead of just having the friday off, even though it was ment to be sat and sun, which ive made plans for…

Remember Having 2days off in the week like this before, got stuck in a rut and i was working every weekend for 8weeks, killing my relationship

Trucker beads:
Thank you mike and adam for making this so much easier on my head :slight_smile:

When i had a word with the general manager today, as tm is away he phoned someone and tryed explaining to me that 90hour driving in 2weeks and 120 other in 2weeks, which i no sort of :slight_smile:

There’s all the info you need right there. Your general manager should not be giving hours advice as he obviously hasn’t got a clue and you should ignore everything he says on the subject in the future. In any two consecutive weeks you can drive for a maximum of 90 hours, there are no 120 hour fortnights so he is talking out of his arse. This also has no bearing on your situation regarding weekly rest periods. The requirement to take at least one regular and one reduced weekly rest period in any two consecutive weeks is not related to number of driving hours.

The 90 hours in a two week period is driving time, not working time. You can legally be at work far longer than this in a week. Six x15 hour shifts giving a total of 90 hours in a week is legally possible for both the WTD and the Driver’s Hours Regulations, given the correct amount of breaks, POA and rest, but you better not tell them that if they only pay you for 48. :wink: :smiley:

Coffeeholic:

Trucker beads:
Thank you mike and adam for making this so much easier on my head :slight_smile:

When i had a word with the general manager today, as tm is away he phoned someone and tryed explaining to me that 90hour driving in 2weeks and 120 other in 2weeks, which i no sort of :slight_smile:

There’s all the info you need right there. Your general manager should not be giving hours advice as he obviously hasn’t got a clue and you should ignore everything he says on the subject in the future. In any two consecutive weeks you can drive for a maximum of 90 hours, there are no 120 hour fortnights so he is talking out of his arse. This also has no bearing on your situation regarding weekly rest periods. The requirement to take at least one regular and one reduced weekly rest period in any two consecutive weeks is not related to number of driving hours.

The 90 hours in a two week period is driving time, not working time. You can legally be at work far longer than this in a week. Six x15 hour shifts giving a total of 90 paid hours in a week is legally possible for both the WTD and the Driver’s Hours Regulations, given the correct amount of breaks, POA and rest, but you better not tell them that if they only pay you for 48. :wink: :smiley: