a friend of mine use to drive a Y reg foden 8 legger tipper fitted with a rolls 290 which would easy do 80mph+ loaded… 
Hi, gents, speed is fantastic but why does every one want to go faster,
life’s too short as it is, keep this in mind, can you stop in time,■■ can the load on the back stop, i.e=steel, chipboard, timber, and what about a blow out on the front, OH!!! yeah!!! i had one at around 70mph on the 6 with flat plate on board, (old atki borderer 290 cu) took all three lanes, twice, tyre eventually came off the rim, (Tubed tyre ) managed to get it straight again and onto the shoulder, totally wrote off the nearside wheel, nearly killed a guy alongside me(flying wheel locking ring) just missed his cab, four packs of steel hanging over the side, and i dont think i touched the brakes so i would’nt like to think what would have happened if i had done, I LOOKED SKYWARDS and said thanks, something i’ve never forgotten and it certainly is a wake up call,
don’t take chances, it’s dangerous, drive carefully lads,
ta-ta stan the man,
remember it’s only a piece
of steel with wheels on 
Two things:
(1) The 270 and 290 ■■■■■■■ were installed in Atkinson Venturers, never Borderers
and
(2) what are these ‘wheel locking rings’ ■■
Methinks sir, you purport to be something you’re not…
marky:
Two things:(1) The 270 and 290 ■■■■■■■ were installed in Atkinson Venturers, never Borderers
and
(2) what are these ‘wheel locking rings’ ■■
Methinks sir, you purport to be something you’re not…
Marky im sure the rings in question used to be fitted to trl wheels that had the split rim.Mainly on 4 in lines and the tandem axle tls with the single wheels[not s/singles] forget the name of them.
marky:
Two things:(1) The 270 and 290 ■■■■■■■ were installed in Atkinson Venturers, never Borderers
and
(2) what are these ‘wheel locking rings’ ■■
Methinks sir, you purport to be something you’re not…
All tubed tyres had split rings & the locking ring went on over that to hold everything in place.
Dave.
I stand corrected thank you.
dafdave:
marky:
Two things:(1) The 270 and 290 ■■■■■■■ were installed in Atkinson Venturers, never Borderers
and
(2) what are these ‘wheel locking rings’ ■■
Methinks sir, you purport to be something you’re not…
Marky im sure the rings in question used to be fitted to trl wheels that had the split rim.Mainly on 4 in lines and the tandem axle tls with the single wheels[not s/singles] forget the name of them.
STAN says 220 not 290(mistype)
no no , lads, before tubeless tyres were introduced around 62 all truck tyres were fitted with innertubes and the wheels had a removable a rim that was held in place by a locking split ring, and on that night if the rim had not come off with the tyre i would not have held it on the road at all, 290 should have read 220 as it was an m reg(last digit) atki that i drove for
T,J, FITZSIMMONS, out of PRINCESS DOCK GLASGOW IN 1975, "check that "and about the tyres, and believe, lots of trucks were still using tubed tyres up until i retired in 1993, if you go to some of the truck shows, this you can plainly see, so there would be some around well into the 90s, i think maybe only up to the 11,00 tyre i don’t think anything bigger would have been fitted with tubes,
so i am who i say i am, and have the v.d and scar to prove it , my first vehicle was fitted with 40x8s(ask about those) old but not daft, stan the man 
i started as a apprentice at ryder trucks in 1989,and i can remember getting the proper tyre fitters out to change split rims well into the early 90"s.i can even remember some guys turning up,4 weekends in a row to retrofit speedlimiters to all our eligible trucks.funny that,cos after that ,everyone wanted to rent the "c"reg 1628 mercs without limiters ,as opposed to the all new "f"reg powerliners with limiters.
The ■■■■■■■■ have limited my motor now, it used to be unrestricted, now it only does this
newmercman your in a pete, who are you on for now? looking at your oil pressure i hope you must have a cat under the hood! long or short hood?
steve
Hi Steve,
it’s a long nose, of course! & yeah it’s got a CAT C15, I think it’s a 525, it’s got the silly twin turbo set up (lot’s of lag) it’s not long had a rebuild, I’ve had it 3wks now & the oil is still clean, the one I had before had a Detroit series 60 but I got promoted
I’m on for Paul Brandt out of Morris MB now, the outside looks like this
That’s the old Detroit powered one, the new one has the doors without 1/4 lights & the window in the bottom of the passenger door.
Pat
I have been looking back through a few posts and I noticed you mention a Scania you used to own reg no PAM 108M is that the same reg that is now on Mr Slaters wifes Merc?
my dad drove an ERF A series 4 wheeler wagon and drag with a ■■■■■■■ 220 and 9 speed in the late 70s early 80s,which went like a train with out the drag…
stan-the-man:
dafdave:
marky:
Two things:(1) The 270 and 290 ■■■■■■■ were installed in Atkinson Venturers, never Borderers
and
(2) what are these ‘wheel locking rings’ ■■
Methinks sir, you purport to be something you’re not…
Marky im sure the rings in question used to be fitted to trl wheels that had the split rim.Mainly on 4 in lines and the tandem axle tls with the single wheels[not s/singles] forget the name of them.
STAN says 220 not 290(mistype)
no no , lads, before tubeless tyres were introduced around 62 all truck tyres were fitted with innertubes and the wheels had a removable a rim that was held in place by a locking split ring, and on that night if the rim had not come off with the tyre i would not have held it on the road at all, 290 should have read 220 as it was an m reg(last digit) atki that i drove for
T,J, FITZSIMMONS, out of PRINCESS DOCK GLASGOW IN 1975, "check that "and about the tyres, and believe, lots of trucks were still using tubed tyres up until i retired in 1993, if you go to some of the truck shows, this you can plainly see, so there would be some around well into the 90s, i think maybe only up to the 11,00 tyre i don’t think anything bigger would have been fitted with tubes,
so i am who i say i am, and have the v.d and scar to prove it , my first vehicle was fitted with 40x8s(ask about those) old but not daft, stan the man
hehe:D did it have a browns box? if it had the 5.04 axle that would make it do 69mph? or the 250 ■■■■■■■ and 9 speed did 67mph? ■■?
hiya,
can remember a mate of mine driving an atki 8 wheeler fully freighted lancs to london it was on 40x8s blew five of them off in that trip alone luckily all on the drive axles i was running with him spent more time waiting for the tyreman than driving we did get there eventually, it would bob on a bit though.
thanks harry long retired.
davemackie:
All tubed tyres had split rings & the locking ring went on over that to hold everything in place.
Dave.
No,split rims were usually fitted to plant,fork lifts mainly.Theres a clue in the title, undo about 6 bolts (let the air out the tube first) and divide the wheel. The normal lorry /trailer tyre in those days would have been a D20 - 10.00.20-
Wheel,tube, gaiter,tyre,flange,lockring
Hi Guys
Split rims were a standard fitment on all early Macks,and Bull nose Mercs, ESP the vehicals from Iran and Turkey and most ME countrys where large chunky tyres were fitted to combat the lack of tarmac,and survived the pot holes.Tubed ring wheels were great also for rough roads as you could wear them down further and even fit a liner inside the Tyre,but they could be dangerous to inflate if the ring was not fitted properly .Most tyre repair shops inflated them inside a cage but who carried one of them on the road,Happy Days 
Roger Haywood
Grandad’s driver got done for speeding at Broxton Cheshire for doing 26 and 8/10ths mph with a Yorkshire steam lorry and Dyson drawbar trailer in 1928. The speed limit was 20 mph then. Grandad made the driver pay his own fine of 2 shillings
dafdave:
Chris Webb:
stepthru:
Chris Webb:
stepthru:
how fast would those Scammell Highwayman units go that HArrisons were still running about in until a few years ago?didn’t they all get Gardner engines shoehorned in?
surely they must’ve changed the gearing in them to use on the motorway??
I think they had the Leyland 680 engines in Stepthru.At least two of 'em had a third axle fitted but not sure what the gross weight or top speed would be.
His older tacklewas on internal work in BSC Templeborough - formerly Steel,Peech and Tozer and I remember them well.
yes- it’s the 3rd axle ones I’ve seen - they looked quite well balanced - haven’t they still got all the old Rigid 8’s rotting in the back?
I haven’t been near Sid’s yard for years but I’d like to bet there’s some old 8-leggers still around.I don’t even know if they are still operating as the steel industry in Sheffield is a shadow of it’s former self.IIRC they bought some new Scammell units years ago and never used them.
I was talking to one of their drivers about 15yrs ago,he was a bit of a character,i asked him how fast it would go and he said up to 55mph but it all depended on how much noise you could stand.
The Highwayman with the Gardner was much slower than the ones with the Leyland 680,I drove one that could do 70 no bother, although a lot of vibration,Moores of Ayr had a few
of them in late Sixties early Seventies with Bicycle wings on the front, there wasnt many could catch them i can tell yi