Welsh Border and Mid Wales Hauliers 1950's onwards


A nice looking Volvo FM,seen on the A44 at Walton,Radnorshire


A Daf XF artic curtainsider,seen on the A470 at Rhayader,Radnorshire.


Was hoping there would be a few tippers on this jon on the A470 just West of Rhayader,Radnorshire,but we missed to get a pic of the two that were hauling from the planer.

Good shots on here Dave keep the camera woman working on nice days … :smiley: :smiley:

MEAN MACHINE:
Good shots on here Dave keep the camera woman working on nice days … :smiley: :smiley:

Yes MEAN MACHINE I will be looking to get her taking plenty of pics.She has been taking some good pics lately even though the light isn’t good half the time in winter.
Cheers Dave.

Dave the Renegade:
A A Volvo artic low loader taking plant into the sale at Madley,Herefordshire.

Cracking shot here from your good lady … :smiley: :smiley:


A Volvo four wheeler waiting in the queue at the roadworks on the A470 west of Rhayader,Radnorshire.


SD Commercials ERF tractor unit with Pontrilas Sawmills stricken FH12 shunter on tow.

Rear view.

Fifth wheel hook up for towing breakdowns back to thair workshops.

Novel design by Steve and Stewart of SD Commercials of Madley,Hereford.

Electric and air hooks up when the bar is fitted.


One of Kieron M Owen Volvo FH timber artics,seen on the A470 between Llangurig and Rhayader,Mid Wales.

Dave the Renegade:

SD Commercials ERF tractor unit with Pontrilas Sawmills stricken FH12 shunter on tow.

Rear view.

Fifth wheel hook up for towing breakdowns back to thair workshops.

Novel design by Steve and Stewart of SD Commercials of Madley,Hereford.

Electric and air hooks up when the bar is fitted.

hiya,
Dave that towing concoction looks a bit like using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut.
surely a crossmember fixed at the very rear of the chassis with the towing eye bolted
to that would have done the job equally as well, I’ve pulled motors in with a unit set up
that way without any problems, that idea isn’t going to transfer any weight to the
fifth wheel coupling and in my opinion is a waste of time and steel and to be fixed to
“stop it lifting” with a couple of straps would do nothing in the event of an overrun
situation I’ll bet it isn’t safe and i wouldn’t want to be hooked to it, the only good
point is it can be swapped from unit to unit but a much safer method of holding down
needs to be looked into.
thanks harry long retired

hiya,
Dave that towing concoction looks a bit like using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut.
surely a crossmember fixed at the very rear of the chassis with the towing eye bolted
to that would have done the job equally as well, I’ve pulled motors in with a unit set up
that way without any problems, that idea isn’t going to transfer any weight to the
fifth wheel coupling and in my opinion is a waste of time and steel and to be fixed to
“stop it lifting” with a couple of straps would do nothing in the event of an overrun
situation I’ll bet it isn’t safe and i wouldn’t want to be hooked to it, the only good
point is it can be swapped from unit to unit but a much safer method of holding down
needs to be looked into.
thanks harry long retired
That’s the general idea Harry they are thinking of updating their unit.Also they just slide that set up off by releasing the pin and use the unit for collecting customers trailers for repairs etc.They have had the set up okay ed by the local Vosa testing station.
Cheers Dave.

Dave the Renegade:
hiya,
Dave that towing concoction looks a bit like using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut.
surely a crossmember fixed at the very rear of the chassis with the towing eye bolted
to that would have done the job equally as well, I’ve pulled motors in with a unit set up
that way without any problems, that idea isn’t going to transfer any weight to the
fifth wheel coupling and in my opinion is a waste of time and steel and to be fixed to
“stop it lifting” with a couple of straps would do nothing in the event of an overrun
situation I’ll bet it isn’t safe and i wouldn’t want to be hooked to it, the only good
point is it can be swapped from unit to unit but a much safer method of holding down
needs to be looked into.
thanks harry long retired
That’s the general idea Harry they are thinking of updating their unit.Also they just slide that set up off by releasing the pin and use the unit for collecting customers trailers for repairs etc.They have had the set up okay ed by the local Vosa testing station.
Cheers Dave.

hiya,
Dave will send the VOSA guy a phone number for his local Specsavers.
thanks harry long retired.

harry_gill:

Dave the Renegade:
hiya,
Dave that towing concoction looks a bit like using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut.
surely a crossmember fixed at the very rear of the chassis with the towing eye bolted
to that would have done the job equally as well, I’ve pulled motors in with a unit set up
that way without any problems, that idea isn’t going to transfer any weight to the
fifth wheel coupling and in my opinion is a waste of time and steel and to be fixed to
“stop it lifting” with a couple of straps would do nothing in the event of an overrun
situation I’ll bet it isn’t safe and i wouldn’t want to be hooked to it, the only good
point is it can be swapped from unit to unit but a much safer method of holding down
needs to be looked into.
thanks harry long retired
That’s the general idea Harry they are thinking of updating their unit.Also they just slide that set up off by releasing the pin and use the unit for collecting customers trailers for repairs etc.They have had the set up okay ed by the local Vosa testing station.
Cheers Dave.

hiya,
Dave will send the VOSA guy a phone number for his local Specsavers.
thanks harry long retired.

I won’t argue Harry.I only reversed artics off the main road into the workshop,never actually drove them on any journeys so I will bow to your superior knowledge on that issue .
Cheers Dave.


A bit close for a clear pic of this Scania timber wagon,seen on the A470 near Llangurig,Mid Wales.


Don’t see to many with the sheet tied down on an empty flat trailer these days.This one seen on the A44 near Llangurig,Mid Wales.


This one is a long way from home :exclamation: seen on the A44 near Aberystwyth.

Dave the Renegade:

harry_gill:

Dave the Renegade:
hiya,
Dave that towing concoction looks a bit like using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut.
surely a crossmember fixed at the very rear of the chassis with the towing eye bolted
to that would have done the job equally as well, I’ve pulled motors in with a unit set up
that way without any problems, that idea isn’t going to transfer any weight to the
fifth wheel coupling and in my opinion is a waste of time and steel and to be fixed to
“stop it lifting” with a couple of straps would do nothing in the event of an overrun
situation I’ll bet it isn’t safe and i wouldn’t want to be hooked to it, the only good
point is it can be swapped from unit to unit but a much safer method of holding down
needs to be looked into.
thanks harry long retired
That’s the general idea Harry they are thinking of updating their unit.Also they just slide that set up off by releasing the pin and use the unit for collecting customers trailers for repairs etc.They have had the set up okay ed by the local Vosa testing station.
Cheers Dave.

hiya,
Dave will send the VOSA guy a phone number for his local Specsavers.
thanks harry long retired.

I won’t argue Harry.I only reversed artics off the main road into the workshop,never actually drove them on any journeys so I will bow to your superior knowledge on that issue .
Cheers Dave.

Hi Harry
We made that towing concoction one night as we needed to get the unit back as soon as possible to sort it out for the customer. Your right on the part its not the best at towing but we only traveled at a sensible speed and not that far. The unit was hooked up to air so had brakes to stop an overrun situation occurring. Also those straps only stop the box section from moving as it fits snugly inside the chassis rails. Its surprising that the fifth wheel does actually play a massive roll as we don’t have a full cross member in the rear of the chassis otherwise we would of just bolted on a towing eye and done it the easy way but needs must in a situation like that. We also saved the customer a massive recovery bill and also made a small profit to cover the cost of the wasted steel. We don’t normally do recovery and don’t plan on doing a great deal till we have up dated our unit. Thanks Stewart SD Commercials


A Daf XF artic tanker,seen on the A44 near Aberystwyth.


Part of the 12 million pound sea defence job being carried out at Borth just up the coast from Aberystwyth.

stewart196164:

Dave the Renegade:

harry_gill:

Dave the Renegade:
hiya,
Dave that towing concoction looks a bit like using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut.
surely a crossmember fixed at the very rear of the chassis with the towing eye bolted
to that would have done the job equally as well, I’ve pulled motors in with a unit set up
that way without any problems, that idea isn’t going to transfer any weight to the
fifth wheel coupling and in my opinion is a waste of time and steel and to be fixed to
“stop it lifting” with a couple of straps would do nothing in the event of an overrun
situation I’ll bet it isn’t safe and i wouldn’t want to be hooked to it, the only good
point is it can be swapped from unit to unit but a much safer method of holding down
needs to be looked into.
thanks harry long retired
That’s the general idea Harry they are thinking of updating their unit.Also they just slide that set up off by releasing the pin and use the unit for collecting customers trailers for repairs etc.They have had the set up okay ed by the local Vosa testing station.
Cheers Dave.

hiya,
Dave will send the VOSA guy a phone number for his local Specsavers.
thanks harry long retired.

I won’t argue Harry.I only reversed artics off the main road into the workshop,never actually drove them on any journeys so I will bow to your superior knowledge on that issue .
Cheers Dave.

Hi Harry
We made that towing concoction one night as we needed to get the unit back as soon as possible to sort it out for the customer. Your right on the part its not the best at towing but we only traveled at a sensible speed and not that far. The unit was hooked up to air so had brakes to stop an overrun situation occurring. Also those straps only stop the box section from moving as it fits snugly inside the chassis rails. Its surprising that the fifth wheel does actually play a massive roll as we don’t have a full cross member in the rear of the chassis otherwise we would of just bolted on a towing eye and done it the easy way but needs must in a situation like that. We also saved the customer a massive recovery bill and also made a small profit to cover the cost of the wasted steel. We don’t normally do recovery and don’t plan on doing a great deal till we have up dated our unit. Thanks Stewart SD Commercials

hiya,
Stewart just making an observation, just looking at the time it must have taken to manufacture the towing implement (choosing my words more carefully now) wouldn’t it have been a much quicker option to drop an extra crossmember in and a towing eye at the rearmost part of the chassis at the BRS most of our units was altered that way to pull new military trailers from the manufacturer to the yard where we had a crane to load them onto flat bed trailers for delivery to MOD depot’s.
thanks harry long retired.