pbsummers:
Hi Carl
I haven’t posted anything for a while because I was disappointed and angry about a post put on in May by an ex Williams driver he should have kept his thoughts to himself as I think he virtually destroyed this site by his comments.I know what is true or not probably better than anyone else I will start to put more posts on shortly . Hope this draws a line over this as I don’t want it to cause problems Peter
Peter, if you think my post was meant to harm this site then you are sadly mistaken. In fact it was an attempt to get other drivers to come back to the site and air their views, but unfortunately no one took me up on it. I apologise if you think otherwise but it was done with the best intentions. As for knowing what was true and what wasn’t then we’ll keep our thoughts to ourselves. In the meantime let’s see how many drivers or other personnel respond to this post. Regards, Ronnie.
Mysterron:
pbsummers:
Hi Carl
I haven’t posted anything for a while because I was disappointed and angry about a post put on in May by an ex Williams driver he should have kept his thoughts to himself as I think he virtually destroyed this site by his comments.I know what is true or not probably better than anyone else I will start to put more posts on shortly . Hope this draws a line over this as I don’t want it to cause problems Peter
Peter, if you think my post was meant to harm this site then you are sadly mistaken. In fact it was an attempt to get other drivers to come back to the site and air their views, but unfortunately no one took me up on it. I apologise if you think otherwise but it was done with the best intentions. As for knowing what was true and what wasn’t then we’ll keep our thoughts to ourselves. In the meantime let’s see how many drivers or other personnel respond to this post. Regards, Ronnie.
Hi Ronnie I may have been a bit harsh and accept your apology, it’s just that I spent the early part of my life at WHW and loved every minute of my time there and also as you know there is a family connection and will stand up for Carl. So lets not fall out and get this show on the road again
Best wishes Ronnie Peter
I should soon be back in action again now, as I have had the insurance company on the phone this morning & they have agreed a replacement payment for my laptop & so I soon should have got a new one
Well i’ve got my new laptop, touch screen windows 8 Seems great, but is it just me, am I thick, but getting it working is a work of art.
Got everything loaded and its great to use, apart from trying to find the way round Windows 8. Then I wanted to print something off, and after 2 hours trying I cannot get it to work the printer.
Then finally I loaded everything off the hard drive onto a stick, which I have put safe, so safe I cannot find it.
I have something I want, in fact been waiting for a week to scan & put on this thread & its so frustrating not being able to get the printer/scanner to work.
Its a bew HP laptop, and I have a printer about 3 years old again HP, but not wireless. I plug it in & get lots of rubbish inc registering on the internet on the screen but whatever I do it won’t connect.
If anyone has had these problems, I simpothise , but if you managed to get printer joined up I would appreciate your advise.
I suppose as a 67 year old I’m just out of touch with technology.
Carl Williams:
Well i’ve got my new laptop, touch screen windows 8 Seems great, but is it just me, am I thick, but getting it working is a work of art.
Got everything loaded and its great to use, apart from trying to find the way round Windows 8. Then I wanted to print something off, and after 2 hours trying I cannot get it to work the printer.
Then finally I loaded everything off the hard drive onto a stick, which I have put safe, so safe I cannot find it.
I have something I want, in fact been waiting for a week to scan & put on this thread & its so frustrating not being able to get the printer/scanner to work.
Its a bew HP laptop, and I have a printer about 3 years old again HP, but not wireless. I plug it in & get lots of rubbish inc registering on the internet on the screen but whatever I do it won’t connect.
If anyone has had these problems, I simpothise , but if you managed to get printer joined up I would appreciate your advise.
I suppose as a 67 year old I’m just out of touch with technology.
Hiya,
Carl I’m useless at technology my excuse is I’m 78 and too ancient to learn, nice to see you back
in business mate it’s a bit like having your hands tied behind your back when the old computer
chucks it, anyway Carl looking forwards to seeing your stuff once again.
thanks harry, long retired.
Carl
I have HP laptop and printer as well, although my printer has wireless.
Perhaps you could try the following :-
open up something simple like a one page e mail
with the cursor on the page right click the mouse and you should get a box should open up
towards the bottom of the box there should be a “print preview” option, left click this option
a new page should open with printable image of the e mail
there should be a tool bar at the top of this page and the l/h top corner there should be a little printer logo
left click this logo and another box should open with a “select printer” option
if your printer is listed there make sure it highlighted so your laptop knows what hardware to use
if it is not listed try the “add printer option” from the same box and work through the instructions the computer gives you
Carl Williams:
When we met up last week, Colin was telling the story, prob from late 60’s early 70’s
He, Ronny Harris and Bill Bailey were parking up in Stroud. Colin & Ronny were driving ‘Sleeper cabs’ (Bedford Marsdens Integral TKs), Bill was driving JUP945C, a Bedford SB Marsden. They parked backed up to a wall with Bill in the middle. Bill was sleeping in the back of the SB and in the morning as they woke, both Ronnie & Colin (In their cabs) saw Bill, through their mirrors, squatted over a cardboard box which he was using as a toilet.
So simultaneously they pulled forward leaving Bill on full view, and Colin said as they were pulling out onto the road a double decker bus was passing and they could see the passengers on the top deck pointing at Bill
This must be twice Bill Bailey got caught having a crap in the open, Sunday night in Swindon four of us parked along side the canal which had a public footpath and was very busy on a monday morning, Ronnie was nearest the canal and i was next to him then Bill (I was in middle) mine was a non sleeper cab so I was off the wall at rear so I could get in and out, on the morning Bill said he was going to you know what between the back of my van and the wall, so talking to Ronnie and watching under the vans to see how Bill was progressing I waited for him to start I then pulled Ron,s van forward leaving Bill trying to wipe his arse and pull his overalls up as there was lots of people going along the towpath of the canal, needless to say the cockney slang and all sorts came out of Bills mouth, I must say I have never heard this other version.
Hi Carl
If you are still having problems and your computer is brand new and the retailer cannot help try ringing the HP helpline. When I got my present laptop ( two years ago at John Lewis) I had a similar connectivity problem and the retailer help line told me to contact the HP helpline. I think the first 30 minutes were free through the warranty and the engineer took control of my computer remotely and went through all the software files till he found the problem. Apparently one tiny option was switched off when it should have been on !!
I would never have found it in a month of Sundays !!
Cheers Tyneside
My grandfather standing outside no 14 Marmaduke Street,Spennymoor in 1965 with one of the nineteen Rover cars he ran during his driving life. outside the house where he was born in 1891 and lived all his life
Carl Williams:
My grandfather standing outside no 14 Marmaduke Street,Spennymoor in 1965 with one of the nineteen Rover cars he ran during his driving life. outside the house where he was born in 1891 and lived all his life
Hiya,
Carl I worked for quite a few haulage contractors in my working lifetime and found
out that loads of the bosses always renewed their personal transport with the same
make of car as the departing one, Carl your Granddad made a good choice, Rover
was an excellent choice for personal transportation and business use.
thanks harry, long retired.
We are organising a reunion for March next year and I am sending out invitation cards so that we can try to get more friends along. if anyone has any information of where I can locate any ex-employees please let me or Colin Watson know so that we can make sure the are invited
A little bit off subject, but connected as we were talking of Rover cars, many will probably find this video very interesting.
youtube.com/watch?v=hdkNwXlnwO4
Hi Carl,
Been enjoying this thread. My dad had a removals firm until it was nationalised. Did a fair bit of work around the North East early seventies with my own truck.
Still slightly off thread with the Rovers. Enjoyed the programme.
You must have been driving the same time as me. I used to find that for some reason P6 Rover drivers thought they were exempt from dipping their headlamps!
That really used to infuriate me. Particularly on the M6, if you saw 4 headlamps shining bright it was almost always a P6 Rover.
Or was it just me?
John West:
Hi Carl,
Been enjoying this thread. My dad had a removals firm until it was nationalised. Did a fair bit of work around the North East early seventies with my own truck.
Still slightly off thread with the Rovers. Enjoyed the programme.
You must have been driving the same time as me. I used to find that for some reason P6 Rover drivers thought they were exempt from dipping their headlamps!
That really used to infuriate me. Particularly on the M6, if you saw 4 headlamps shining bright it was almost always a P6 Rover.
Or was it just me?
Hi John,
The twin headlights seemed to have become the in thing during 1963 and I’m probably bias but looking back today I think Rover created something with the P6 that has remained nice to look at and has not dated as many other’s have
Marsden Coachbuilders introduced their square shaped cab,with twin lights. late 1964 they used on the Bedford SBs seen in photo below and on one occasion when I visited them in Warrington Arthur Rathbone was busy ‘designing’ the front fibreglass mould. In those days it was not sitting at a drawing board and sketching up a design, but working with fibreglass putting a bit here and another bit there creating it into the type of shape he wanted to achieve, but unlike Rover Marsden auto-electrician just installed the usual functioning single headlights with the second set just switched on & off as you chose with a switch in the cab. I think Arthur was certainly influenced by the look of the Guy Invincible when he created this shape & look
Going back to Rover. Did you enjoy your P6?
I drove P4, P5, P6 &SD1 & remember riding in P3 & faintly P2 when I was very young. With the exception of the SD1 they were all good cars in their time. Joining with BL sadly ruined the company and like my son said to me , that my father & me followed the fashion told in the Rover video, switching to Mercedes. I thnk had the government of the day encouraged the Rover Company to continue independence, & given them grants for research & development & the P7 been intoduced to replace the P5 (A car they had designed & developed to go into production, things would have turned out so differently
Carl
As I was saying Marsden simply put two extra headlights in to make them into twin headlights, with a switch in the cab so the driver could turn on when he wished, but this was before Plating & Testing, and on a visit to the newly built test station at Darlington dad was told that MOT attitude was if you have two headlights they must work as two. ie dipped single lights full beam all four.
In fact on one of our first visits to the test station with a vehicle needing testing one of Devereux’s Marsdens was in for test, and they had come up with a novel solution. THey had removed the extra two lights and pieces of aluminium were riveted over where these two lights had been, Whether they got away with this or not I never found out, but dad would not have been satisfied with that solution, so by looking & taking part one of my Rover 2000 they found out how Rover had tackled this problem & copied onto our Marsdens
Talking of twin headlamps we ran three Guy Otter luton vans , 2 B reg & 1 C reg that were built mechanically like tanks, with their Gardner engines, but each year they were a worry at testing time because of cab rot.
The cabs were a cut down Invinsible cabs, and although externally they looked tidy & well turned out it was the frame inside that was dropping to bits. I was there when one of them was passing through Darlington Test station and we came to testing the lights. Dipped perfectly set but full beam all 4 lights came on but instead of the beam going higher, it went further down.
The problem was the cab, although strangely it was still secure it had suffered what at best described as settlement and the realignment of the cab made the lights u/s and so somehow our fitters had made the full beam on the main two headlights the norm and set it legally as dipped, but when then full beam, the second two lights came on but the main lights went into their natural dipped mode & gave very little visability.
The tester said it was a failure. I knew that if I acceted this it would have been a nightmare for our fitters to put right as realisticly it neaded a new cab or a very difficult cab rebuild. So I objected and challenged them to show me on ’ Construction & Users’ where it gave a minimal main beam setting. Frtunatly for me they couldnt find any as the law was only concerned that the lights were set low enough on dipped beam. Reluctantly they issued a test certificate
As I said the Guy Otters were excellent vehicles, pity about the cabs. The rust problems of the Invincible cabs must have put many buyers off buying Guys & must have taken a while for the Big J to live down the Invincible’s problem.
In our case ■■■■ Porter,one of our fitters did an excellent job on two of ours , stripping the cab away from the metal structure and renewing and improving upon and creating strong cabs that would have lasted years.It took almost 2 weeks for each vehicle, but we put in reconditioned Gardner engines whilst they were stripped down.
But the problem that killed them prematurely in our use was the extension of the Motorway network. The 4 cylinder Gardner Engine just simply wasn’t fast enough. It had been built in an era when the speed limit was 30 mph and had a top speed of 45 mph. On the old roads where that was below the average flow of the traffic and was OK. They ran mainly backwards & forwards to Nottingham area & Leicester and in the days when we went down the A1 until we turned off and waved our way through Ollerton over to Nottingham they were OK but once the M18 was opened onto the M1 all things changed. I was heading down in one of my cars and saw one of our Guys in front in the slow lane as it made the climb up a bank on the Motorway. I would no doubt be travelling very well above 70 MPG speed limit but at first I thought the Guy was parked up but no the poor sod was flat out as nearly every vehicle on the road passed him
We rebodied the luton van bodies of two of the three within a week or two onto two Bedford TK chassis/cabs and sold the third intact.
A photo of my Grandfather, W.H.Williams taken 1917 during WW1 of him entertaining the troups. He said, as he couldn’t sing or play the piano he learnt to do ‘Monologues’ I remember him doing one of them titles 'The Tramp’and he was very good
Carl Williams:
A photo of my Grandfather, W.H.Williams taken 1917 during WW1 of him entertaining the troups. He said, as he couldn’t sing or play the piano he learnt to do ‘Monologues’ I remember him doing one of them titles 'The Tramp’and he was very good
Hi Carl, As being part of the family I knew your grandad very well, we used to sit and talk for hours in his house and told me many stories about his early life in WW1 he was a very proud man but OMG!!! he never showed me that photo. I know it’s him but can’t get my head round it him getting dressed up like that. Brought back many memories of him thank you ,Peter
Before i forget to let you know i will be at the next reunion in March
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