W.H.WILLIAMS (spennymoor)

harry_gill:

Carl Williams:

Carl Williams:
I am very pleased to say that Linda Turnbull (now Davison) has been in touch with many memories of working for W.H.Williams. I will develop on many of these over the coming weeks. Linda is also kindly sending some photographs she has and these are mostly staff photos and she says the fashions they wore are now becoming popular again.

The first photo she has sent me is of her sitting at the Burroughs Accounting machine (Before computers) This was replaced in the early 80’s by our first computer system. I remember the software was written for us by a company called Systems 800 who also had provided Newsastle Airport at that time. This was long before Windows and excel etc and the software cost £18,000 a lot of money in 1982

Looking through the note that linda sent me I had forgotten that this photo was taken and was published in a magazine, unfortunatly Linda has mislaid her copy, but she says the machine was very inovative for its time, but was very difficult to use with everything having to be stored on punch cards. I wonder how many young girls of today who are the age Linda was would be able to use it…

When you think about it the same can be said of todays lorry drivers,.Give them an old Scammel with the gate gearbox many would reach for their depression tablets…

hiya,
Carl don’t think I’d ever master the Burrough’s even with loads of instruction from the pretty young lady, but the Scammell with the gate change I would be able to make talk, I did use to modify them a bit, I always removed the gate it did make gear changing quicker when you got the knack of it but had had to refit same when motor in the yard just in case someone else needed to move it, the conversion only took a few moments the studs that held the gate in place only being finger tight I’ll dare bet that there aren’t many drivers on here could get out of first gear gate or no gate.
thanks harry long retired.

hiya Harry,your right there,they will not be many who could,we used to take the gates of the old Cookies motors to stop the permanent rattle!!!vic.

harry_gill:

Carl Williams:

Carl Williams:
I am very pleased to say that Linda Turnbull (now Davison) has been in touch with many memories of working for W.H.Williams. I will develop on many of these over the coming weeks. Linda is also kindly sending some photographs she has and these are mostly staff photos and she says the fashions they wore are now becoming popular again.

The first photo she has sent me is of her sitting at the Burroughs Accounting machine (Before computers) This was replaced in the early 80’s by our first computer system. I remember the software was written for us by a company called Systems 800 who also had provided Newsastle Airport at that time. This was long before Windows and excel etc and the software cost £18,000 a lot of money in 1982

Looking through the note that linda sent me I had forgotten that this photo was taken and was published in a magazine, unfortunatly Linda has mislaid her copy, but she says the machine was very inovative for its time, but was very difficult to use with everything having to be stored on punch cards. I wonder how many young girls of today who are the age Linda was would be able to use it…

When you think about it the same can be said of todays lorry drivers,.Give them an old Scammel with the gate gearbox many would reach for their depression tablets…

hiya,
Carl don’t think I’d ever master the Burrough’s even with loads of instruction from the pretty young lady, but the Scammell with the gate change I would be able to make talk, I did use to modify them a bit, I always removed the gate it did make gear changing quicker when you got the knack of it but had had to refit same when motor in the yard just in case someone else needed to move it, the conversion only took a few moments the studs that held the gate in place only being finger tight I’ll dare bet that there aren’t many drivers on here could get out of first gear gate or no gate.
thanks harry long retired.

hiya Harry,your right there,they will not be many who could,we used to take the gates of the old Cookies motors to stop the permanent rattle!!!vic.

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A photo of the office and administration staff about 1973

From left to right

Ronnie Harris, I have mentioned Ronnie earlier in this thread he came to us late 50’s as a driver and had a period in the transport office early seventies returning back into driving. Ronnie worked for us until the end and the last I heard was alive and well living in Shildon.

Marilyn Mason came from Trimdon, and I remember when she came to Marmaduke Street for interview by Mrs Dennis who then was our office manager. We were short staffed when she arrived and asked her when she could start and she replied that if we could let her ring home she would start stay and start straight away. I believe she had an argument with Mrs Dennis after about a year and left. In my opinion Mrs Dennis was very difficult to work for trying to keep much to herself and not giving staff the opportunity to develop their skills When I took over responsibility for the running of the office I sent for her to come back, which she did.

Linda Turnbull, who kindly provided these photos, lived in Kelloe during her years working for us. Linda was young when she started for us and I hope we trained her well. She was very versatile in her work and willing to take responsibility, with a very mature attitude for her work.

Christine Heale joined us from Tomado ltd the factory opposite our offices. She lived in Spennymoor and I remember was only three days younger than me. Christine had a responsible position at Tomado and was older than we would have usually recruited as we liked to train office staff to work our way. Christine was our wages clerk for quite a long time. A job that often had her take the agro from drivers who thought they had been underpaid. Whilst she worked for us Christine had a baby girl, who will be quite old herself today.

Shirley Cutty unfortunately I cannot remember too much about her at this time as she was a quiet type of girl who got on with her work

John Storey came to us as an apprentice transport manager.

Anne Walton again came to us straight from school. I remember in an article in a newspaper describing her as the cheerful teenager who answered the phone. How times fly. Ann went on to be our removal clerk, dealing with all aspects of our removals division. She went on to marry Ian Askwith who worked as a small van driver and then HGV as he got older. From what I can understand Ann progressed her career onto management with subsequent employers.

Eddy Thornton was service manager of Adams and Gibbon Claypath Durham. He joined us as manager of our vehicle maintenance department, and certainly got all our maintenance records up to date. He joined our transport Office when Alan Henderson joined the company as fleet Engineer. In the transport office he had the special responsibility to leas between transport and maintenance.

If anyone recognises either themselves or anyone in this photograph I really would appreciate if they could get in touch and give me their thoughts and memories.

Finally in the bottom photo which has been torn was my dad and me. I remember we were asked to pose outside the front door of the office holding a plan of the soon to be built warehouse.

v7victor:
Oops double clicked!!!

Hum!

They also say it makes you go blind !

Carl Williams:

v7victor:
Oops double clicked!!!

Hum!

They also say it makes you go blind !

Those short skirts certainly grabbed my attention.

Thanks for making a relatively old man happy

harry_gill:

Carl Williams:

Carl Williams:
I am very pleased to say that Linda Turnbull (now Davison) has been in touch with many memories of working for W.H.Williams. I will develop on many of these over the coming weeks. Linda is also kindly sending some photographs she has and these are mostly staff photos and she says the fashions they wore are now becoming popular again.

The first photo she has sent me is of her sitting at the Burroughs Accounting machine (Before computers) This was replaced in the early 80’s by our first computer system. I remember the software was written for us by a company called Systems 800 who also had provided Newsastle Airport at that time. This was long before Windows and excel etc and the software cost £18,000 a lot of money in 1982

Looking through the note that linda sent me I had forgotten that this photo was taken and was published in a magazine, unfortunatly Linda has mislaid her copy, but she says the machine was very inovative for its time, but was very difficult to use with everything having to be stored on punch cards. I wonder how many young girls of today who are the age Linda was would be able to use it…

When you think about it the same can be said of todays lorry drivers,.Give them an old Scammel with the gate gearbox many would reach for their depression tablets…

hiya,
Carl don’t think I’d ever master the Burrough’s even with loads of instruction from the pretty young lady, but the Scammell with the gate change I would be able to make talk, I did use to modify them a bit, I always removed the gate it did make gear changing quicker when you got the knack of it but had had to refit same when motor in the yard just in case someone else needed to move it, the conversion only took a few moments the studs that held the gate in place only being finger tight I’ll dare bet that there aren’t many drivers on here could get out of first gear gate or no gate.
thanks harry long retired.

Hi Harry,

What you describe makes a lorry driver into a professional and that is something that cannot be taught, and requires years of experience of driving all types of vehicles.

When in 1964 I was learning to drive my dad was determined I should take my test a day or two after my 17th birthday.

Before then he had taken me week after week to drive along the bridal path at Sunderland Bridge near Croxdale. Stop, start, stop start along to the end turn round and the same again the other way until he was satisfied I had mastered the clutch.

When I went on the road the day before my test he took me out and returned home to my mother mad saying that I never would learn to double de clutch. (He had a very short temper) My mother took me out and half an hour later came back and said I had learnt and to take me out and see for himself.

When I went for the test, although I could double de clutch which was not required I had never learnt hand signals which was. When the examiner told me tom use hand signals I put my hand out to go right and changed down with the other hand with no hand on the steering and of course failed.

Dad always said that I had to be able to drive anything and thanks to a little bit of instruction from MOTEC some years later when they introduced me to a Scammell, years later when I had to I managed.

My dad said to me when I passed my test,’Now you will learn’ and experience is the only thing that teaches you. .

Best wishes
Carl

Totally agree that experience does teach you a lot but you have to want to learn in the 1st place as some people never learn they just think they know it all :unamused:

Yes I can double de clutch as my dad taught me he was also very bad tempered or cantankerous as I or my mam would say :laughing:

Never ha the chance to drive a Scammell so not sure if I could depends if the seat went forward enough or not but then could always put block on the pedals & I was never 1 for working indoors or the office rather get my hands dirty

animal:
Totally agree that experience does teach you a lot but you have to want to learn in the 1st place as some people never learn they just think they know it all :unamused:

Yes I can double de clutch as my dad taught me he was also very bad tempered or cantankerous as I or my mam would say :laughing:

Never ha the chance to drive a Scammell so not sure if I could depends if the seat went forward enough or not but then could always put block on the pedals & I was never 1 for working indoors or the office rather get my hands dirty

hiya,
I can’t double de-clutch anymore Ang have bought the missus an automatic I suppose I could put a dummy pedal there so’s I don’t get out of the habit, you never know I might decide to buy an old Handyman for nipping round to Morrisons but would need a forklift as well to get in and out the cab,
thanks harry long retired.

harry_gill:

animal:
Totally agree that experience does teach you a lot but you have to want to learn in the 1st place as some people never learn they just think they know it all :unamused:

Yes I can double de clutch as my dad taught me he was also very bad tempered or cantankerous as I or my mam would say :laughing:

Never ha the chance to drive a Scammell so not sure if I could depends if the seat went forward enough or not but then could always put block on the pedals & I was never 1 for working indoors or the office rather get my hands dirty

hiya,
I can’t double de-clutch anymore Ang have bought the missus an automatic I suppose I could put a dummy pedal there so’s I don’t get out of the habit, you never know I might decide to buy an old Handyman for nipping round to Morrisons but would need a forklift as well to get in and out the cab,
thanks harry long retired.

My car does have a clutch but dont think I need to double de clutch in it :laughing:

animal:

harry_gill:

animal:
Totally agree that experience does teach you a lot but you have to want to learn in the 1st place as some people never learn they just think they know it all :unamused:

Yes I can double de clutch as my dad taught me he was also very bad tempered or cantankerous as I or my mam would say :laughing:

Never ha the chance to drive a Scammell so not sure if I could depends if the seat went forward enough or not but then could always put block on the pedals & I was never 1 for working indoors or the office rather get my hands dirty

hiya,
I can’t double de-clutch anymore Ang have bought the missus an automatic I suppose I could put a dummy pedal there so’s I don’t get out of the habit, you never know I might decide to buy an old Handyman for nipping round to Morrisons but would need a forklift as well to get in and out the cab,
thanks harry long retired.

My car does have a clutch but dont think I need to double de clutch in it :laughing:

hiya,
Go on Ang you won’t do it any harm and you never know the “crash box” may make a comeback and you, still being young enough to be allowed on the road will be ready when the present day lads can’t manage you’ll be able to show them the ropes and get the country moving again, you know it makes sense.
thanks harry long retired.

animal:

harry_gill:

animal:
Totally agree that experience does teach you a lot but you have to want to learn in the 1st place as some people never learn they just think they know it all :unamused:

Yes I can double de clutch as my dad taught me he was also very bad tempered or cantankerous as I or my mam would say :laughing:

Never ha the chance to drive a Scammell so not sure if I could depends if the seat went forward enough or not but then could always put block on the pedals & I was never 1 for working indoors or the office rather get my hands dirty

hiya,
I can’t double de-clutch anymore Ang have bought the missus an automatic I suppose I could put a dummy pedal there so’s I don’t get out of the habit, you never know I might decide to buy an old Handyman for nipping round to Morrisons but would need a forklift as well to get in and out the cab,
thanks harry long retired.

My car does have a clutch but dont think I need to double de clutch in it :laughing:

what a carry on clutch or no clutch say no more

v7victor:

animal:

harry_gill:

animal:
Totally agree that experience does teach you a lot but you have to want to learn in the 1st place as some people never learn they just think they know it all :unamused:

Yes I can double de clutch as my dad taught me he was also very bad tempered or cantankerous as I or my mam would say :laughing:

Never ha the chance to drive a Scammell so not sure if I could depends if the seat went forward enough or not but then could always put block on the pedals & I was never 1 for working indoors or the office rather get my hands dirty

hiya,
I can’t double de-clutch anymore Ang have bought the missus an automatic I suppose I could put a dummy pedal there so’s I don’t get out of the habit, you never know I might decide to buy an old Handyman for nipping round to Morrisons but would need a forklift as well to get in and out the cab,
thanks harry long retired.

My car does have a clutch but dont think I need to double de clutch in it :laughing:

what a carry on clutch or no clutch say no more

hiya,
You’re right Vic nuff said, howay Carl lets get back to some proper crack.
thanks harry long retired.

My grandfather was the most unusual person. I know that is something easy to say but I am now 64 years old and never in my life up to this time have I met anyone like him.

I hope I don’t bore readers with this quote but it is important to understand about him to see how W.H.Williams developed. Over the next few weeks I will describe things he did that will certainly entertain the mind.

Animal (Angie) said that she never wanted to work in an office but wanted to get her hands dirty. My grandfather did neither of these things. He wasn’t an individual who would be trapped in an office and on the other hand he certainly never intended to get his hands dirty. I don’t think in my lifetime he ever dipped the oil in his car, or opened the bonnet for that matter. That is not to be said that his car was ignored, but he got someone to do that for him. Every time his car went out it was washed and polished.

My dad on the other hand was the reverse. Always living in the shadow of his father, it had developed him into a shy person who generally took an interest into the wellbeing of his workforce and generally caring for them. Dad never worked in an office, like I described earlier. Always being found in the garage at Marmaduke Street or in the driver’s rest room at Green Lane. He, in my youth always wore a boiler suit and was very hands on and not afraid of getting covered in oil.

I will describe later many of the things my grandfather got up to but one thing I know he never gave a bribe. He was too greedy. After using many different type of cars until he had to stop driving in about 1972, he settled on Rover in 1928. and had thirty over the years. Dad always said of his father that he never could drive being dangerous at reversing and every time he got a new car he took it back to the Rover garage and had the clutch adjusted so there was hardly any bite so when he changed gear he didn’t have to push the clutch down. I went with him to Dinsdale’s at Stockton, the main Rover agents where he made himself at home walking into the workshop, not bothering about any receptions and asking the foreman, who he knew to adjust his clutch and then giving 6d tip. He did this like he was giving a fortune.

I laughed when Tyneside described about meeting with Rex Preston in his parents kitchen (an extension of the office) In my Grandfather’s home at 14 Marmaduke Street (Where he was born and lived all his life) when I was young almost every night be it MP Doctor Solicitor shop keeper or even a driver were there for tea (A meal prepared by my poor grandmother who’s cooking facilities would have suited Beamish Museum)

To him a house was where his home was and he liked where he lived. On one occasion he was offered to buy a house on Durham Road Bishop Auckland , when he was visiting with my grandmother the elderly lady who lived there and wanted to sell. (known in those days as Millionaires Road) it was a ridiculously cheap price but in those days in his defence no one realised property prices would rise. He wasn’t interested even though he had more money with him in his pocket than it would cost to buy. Had he seen it as an opportunity to rent it out at a profit he would however, but in those days no one rented such large houses.

My Grandfather went to Rosa Street School Spennymoor leaving at about 10 years old. Yet to meet him anyone would have thought he was well educated. Certainly his ability was that better than any students I have bumped into over the years. His specialist subject was money. He loved and worshiped it.

He cared for no one not giving a dam whether or not he hurt anyone’s feelings. In fact the only person I ever knew he cared for was me —He worshiped me. He one said when I die I’m leaving everything to you; your dad’s irresponsible and has no value of money. When he died however he had never left a will and my dad did inherit, but he never would have given my dad the satisfaction of knowing he cared about him.

In 1946 my grandfather had a heart attach, a serious one and a Harvey Street Specialist, Harley Evvers travelled up by train to 14 Marmaduke Streer to examine him. This chap had treated the King and prescribed tablets that our doctor said saved his life. Its funny how someone who would spend money never thought a thing when it came to his own health.

As a result of this illness he gave the business to my dad and dad was a sole trader from 1947. However in retirement my grandfather would earn himself more in a week than many would earn in a six months.

Ending this quote I will give this final glimpse into his personality. He was the youngest in a family of six and the fourth to be born was my great uncle Jack who married my Great aunt Emmy. Grandad didn’t like Emmy, that’s not to say he disliked her, but he thought she was a social climber. (A little like Mrs Bucket on the TV series ‘Keeping up appearances’). She loved my grandfather to go especially as he always had a new shinny Rover that would stand outside their home for the neighbours to see. Somehow my Grandfather found out about this. Now he liked to go to see his brother as they argued and he loved a good argument and the satisfaction of leaving in a temper. So he made sure he went with the car but not in a smart tailored suit made by Hunter Martin, his tailor from Stockton but in a dustcoat tied with string. He then would park the car and noisily get out so the neighbours knew he was there and pose in his dirty string tied dust coat.

harry_gill:

animal:
Totally agree that experience does teach you a lot but you have to want to learn in the 1st place as some people never learn they just think they know it all :unamused:

Yes I can double de clutch as my dad taught me he was also very bad tempered or cantankerous as I or my mam would say :laughing:

Never ha the chance to drive a Scammell so not sure if I could depends if the seat went forward enough or not but then could always put block on the pedals & I was never 1 for working indoors or the office rather get my hands dirty

hiya,
I can’t double de-clutch anymore Ang have bought the missus an automatic I suppose I could put a dummy pedal there so’s I don’t get out of the habit, you never know I might decide to buy an old Handyman for nipping round to Morrisons but would need a forklift as well to get in and out the cab,
thanks harry long retired.

Hi Harry

When you said about needhing a fork lift to get you in and out of the cab you really made me laugh It was somethhing like I imagine my dad would have said

All through his life he hasd suffred with eyesight problems and in 2000 when he was 79 he complained he had seen horses galloping accross the road in front of him we decided it was time that he had to stop driving. He took it badly.and a few months later when a renewall came for his driving licence I caught him trying to fill it in., telling me he needed it in case of an emergency. I tore it up

Best wishes
Carl

I wonder how many readers remember Hardy & Co Furniture Shops. They had them in every town with the main shop in Clayton Street Newcastle.

I goggled it and there was nothing there. Like so many businesses they eventually floated on the stock exchange and with takeovers they disappear.
However t was a very large business with branches stretching down as far as Doncaster.

My grandfather started delivering furniture for them in the mid twenties. As I have explained my grandfather was not a person who would compromise his personality and would speak his mind regardless or not it offended, so friends would either take him as he was or they simply would not be friends whether business or personal.

Somehow, goodness knows how he made friends with Mr Cohen (A truly Jewish name) whose family owned Hardy & Co. To the degree that Cohen asked my grandfather to look out for him for suitable property in Spennymoor. Finding them a large shop on Cheapside my grandfather went on to pay cash deposit on Hardy’s behalf out of his own pocket to retain the premises until the sale could be finalised.

Thanking him Cohen gave my father a clock which stood on his sideboard until he died. When I think back it was ‘Art Nouveau’ and today would have been a collectors item today…

Another customer the started using us in the thirties was Woodhouse Furniture Stores which was part of GUS group. Owned by the Woolfston family.

Shop deliveries played a part in our business until the late seventies when due to increases in wages made it un profitable making it only suitable for owner drivers who usually undersold themselves working at very uneconomic rates.

However by the vans being seen on all housing areas delivering furniture was one of our best adverts and made W.H.Williams into a household name within 15 miles of Spennymoor, which in turn benefited our removal business, and from the late fifties until the sixties we had vans delivering new furniture from manufacturers to furniture stores followed by vans collecting from the stores for onward delivery to the customers. In hindsight we lost a great opportunity, by not having a central warehouse where deliveries could have been made and redelivered directly to household customers, leaving the stores and salesmen with showroom facilities only dedicating themselves to the sale of furniture only like in most cases they do today, but no one had thought of that in those days

Three girls ans a van

Girls left to right Christine Heale,Linda Turnbull Anne Walton

van: bedford TK with Coachskill 27 foot demountable boxvan body

I passed my car driving test in October or November 1964,during half term holiday and although this enabled me to drive myself to and from school (Not allowed in school rules) it was during the winter term time so I didn’t get my chance to drive a van.

When the opportunity arrived during the Christmas school holidays I almost wished it hadn’t. The driver of DPT100B a Morris FG 2 tonner was ill and I had to fill in for him.

We did furniture deliveries for Woodhouses a national company with a furniture store in Bishop Auckland. The problem with Woodhouse’s deliveries were that many customers lived in the Dales, at places like Ireshopburn and St John’s Chapel and it was almost guaranteed that the customers were out at work till late, sometimes as late as 7.00PM

Arriving at the shop at 9.00AM it was necessary to arrange your deliveries not only according to route but also to accommodate delivery times. On my first day when myself and Alan Robertson (One of our porters that eventually trained as a small van driver after passing his car test) arrived at the store we had a full load. Infect it was credit to Alan’s skill in packing that we got everything on the van. Allan was known for an Al Johnson act he did calling himself Al king.

Our first delivery was a three piece suite that had the settee standing vertically on one arm with the two chairs nestled with the bottom one suspended on an arm with the next chair arm to arm nestled into the settee. It is at that point I found the other problem with Woodhouse’s deliveries. They took part exchange. In this case an old pre war bed settee and two chairs. Anyone who has any experience with old bed settees could ever appreciate the weight they were making a piano feel like a bar of chocolate. To ensure I had a happy day the bed settee had to be upended and walked round the door of the living room and likewise in the porch that led to the outdoors.

As I had said the van was full and now we had taken off one three piece suit and had to put back onto the vehicle three pieces that were much larger and occupied more space. The rear of the van was repacked but even by leaving open the rear roller shutter, the tailboard simply would not close either. DPT had a large under slung tailboard like we had fitted on all our Marsdens and we could not use the option of a tail board load, as it wouldn’t have been safe and would have been pulled over by any police seeing us. The tailboard was closed as far as it would go and with everything being tied across the back of the van the tailboard chains which supported it when open for us to walk on to gain entry to the back of the van were shortened to hold the tailboard up.

At every drop we made after that until we had space to place the bed settee on one side of the van we had to lift it on and off on every occasion to be able to get into the furniture behind.

We had about thirty deliveries that day (3 piece suites, bedroom suites, beds, washing machines and dining and kitchen sets and by the time we reached our last delivery at St john’s Chapel we were both exhausted and arriving back at Spennymoor at 9-00PM we had suffered a long day.

Two things I remember about Woodhouses was 1 I had a date with one of the girls in the office 2.whilst loading one day at the rear of the store a HM Customs and Excise van pulled in behind me and tested the fuel to ensure it was not duty free. They asked me in whilst they did their test that was so accurate they could identify we were running on Phillip’s fuel, maybe even delivered by Vic.

Carl Williams:
I passed my car driving test in October or November 1964,during half term holiday and although this enabled me to drive myself to and from school (Not allowed in school rules) it was during the winter term time so I didn’t get my chance to drive a van.

When the opportunity arrived during the Christmas school holidays I almost wished it hadn’t. The driver of DPT100B a Morris FG 2 tonner was ill and I had to fill in for him.

We did furniture deliveries for Woodhouses a national company with a furniture store in Bishop Auckland. The problem with Woodhouse’s deliveries were that many customers lived in the Dales, at places like Ireshopburn and St John’s Chapel and it was almost guaranteed that the customers were out at work till late, sometimes as late as 7.00PM

Arriving at the shop at 9.00AM it was necessary to arrange your deliveries not only according to route but also to accommodate delivery times. On my first day when myself and Alan Robertson (One of our porters that eventually trained as a small van driver after passing his car test) arrived at the store we had a full load. Infect it was credit to Alan’s skill in packing that we got everything on the van. Allan was known for an Al Johnson act he did calling himself Al king.

Our first delivery was a three piece suite that had the settee standing vertically on one arm with the two chairs nestled with the bottom one suspended on an arm with the next chair arm to arm nestled into the settee. It is at that point I found the other problem with Woodhouse’s deliveries. They took part exchange. In this case an old pre war bed settee and two chairs. Anyone who has any experience with old bed settees could ever appreciate the weight they were making a piano feel like a bar of chocolate. To ensure I had a happy day the bed settee had to be upended and walked round the door of the living room and likewise in the porch that led to the outdoors.

As I had said the van was full and now we had taken off one three piece suit and had to put back onto the vehicle three pieces that were much larger and occupied more space. The rear of the van was repacked but even by leaving open the rear roller shutter, the tailboard simply would not close either. DPT had a large under slung tailboard like we had fitted on all our Marsdens and we could not use the option of a tail board load, as it wouldn’t have been safe and would have been pulled over by any police seeing us. The tailboard was closed as far as it would go and with everything being tied across the back of the van the tailboard chains which supported it when open for us to walk on to gain entry to the back of the van were shortened to hold the tailboard up.

At every drop we made after that until we had space to place the bed settee on one side of the van we had to lift it on and off on every occasion to be able to get into the furniture behind.

We had about thirty deliveries that day (3 piece suites, bedroom suites, beds, washing machines and dining and kitchen sets and by the time we reached our last delivery at St john’s Chapel we were both exhausted and arriving back at Spennymoor at 9-00PM we had suffered a long day.

Two things I remember about Woodhouses was 1 I had a date with one of the girls in the office 2.whilst loading one day at the rear of the store a HM Customs and Excise van pulled in behind me and tested the fuel to ensure it was not duty free. They asked me in whilst they did their test that was so accurate they could identify we were running on Phillip’s fuel, maybe even delivered by Vic.

Carl, the Al Jolson Impersonator was in fact Alan Robinson, not robertson.

Carl just a bit early for me,you could of been running on springs that had been repaired and delivered back to you by me as at this time i was driving for Woodhead Spring Repairs at Aycliffe,Vic.