limeyphil:
mickyblue:
you making this up limeyphill?No. Summons has four charges 10.30, 19-03-13. Blackpool.
And this is for you or someone else?
Re: Voluntary interview
Unread postby Greg » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:14 pm
degsy4wheels wrote:Greg, I am a know all who knows naff all am i? I best tell that to the solicitor who represented me at the nick then, cos he was one legally trained person who told me that, the other two were currently serving coppers. All advised NEVER speak to police without a solicitor present…Obviously if i know naff all, then so do they.Everything i wrote was factually and legally correct information given by aforementioned legal people.
So basically the only advice you have been given is not to talk to police without a solicitor. Perhaps it’s the way you wrote your post then. I have corrected a few points for you below
I would agree to attend the interview BUT NEVER without a brief, be that the duty one, which you can request at the nick, or take one with you, they will then contact the filth and arrange a time and day for you to attend, rather then you being at the beck and call of a bully in a uniform.
So you would attend when the police can conduct the interview anyway. So this sort of rubbishes what you have written above about being at the beck and call of filth! As your brief would ask the officer when they want to see you and arrange for you to be there! an
Not really it doesn’t. When the Police invite you to attend for a voluntary interview it is usually at thier convinience. Therefore by contacting a brief you are do not have to attend at their convinience, but when you can get to see them. As it’s a voluntary interview they cannot dictate when you go, although they try.
However, if you do go alone and copper starts asking you questions unrelated to what he asked you to attend for, ask for a solicitor.
Correct but as stated you’d already have one present. You can stop the interview there tho for what is called disclosure on the new allegation
But as you will notice i said IF YOU GO ALONE, so therefore i wouldn’t have a brief there, cos i’ve gone alone
They should advise you to get one anyway, and you have to sign to say if you don’t want one.
No they shouldn’t as its your choice. The police and criminal evidence act states they cant advise you either way Hence why it’s called free and independent legal advice and is one of YOUR rights. Not the police to recommend you have one. You only sign to accept or refuse one when arrested.
Correct it is my choice, however, they in my experience have said “Do you want a solicitor? You can use the duty one, or get one of your choice” I should have written to be gramatically correct they ask you if you want one.
Everything is on cctv and tape,
Audio tape yes. CCTV no
Custody is on CCTV, interviews are on audio. Again to be gramatically correct i should have stipulated each thing seperately.
although coppers being coppers will no doubt lose anything that may cause them trouble.
Really? Do you think they are that bothered whether you get prosecuted or not. They will still go home at end of day just like you
Yes they are actually. If they weren’t bothered would they spend so much time and effort evidence gathering? And they do have targets to meet, that includes arrests to prosecution.
they cannot charge you without hard evidence and if you’re not guilty they won’t have any, so doing a no comment interview will not incriminate you, but still do not talk to coppers without a brief present EVER.
The whole purpose of the police interviewing you is so that you can give you account of any allegations made against/about you so there will be some evidence. Why get so hung up that the police are out to get you (believe me they are not). If two of your sources of info are cops you will also know that the police has change like every other job and the role of an interview is to gather info from as many people as possible for the CPS who decide on charges/summons in most cases.
If it is a volutary interview there may not be allegations made against you, but it is still an interview, and they may well indeed be trying to get further info. Again from experience, office gossip at one firm i worked at, was that others had been doing something they shouldn’t. I have no interest in office gossip, so i got my paperwork, got in the truck and left. As the police became involved they were informed that i knew about alleged offence, and although i was not arrested i was asked to attend a voluntary interview to see if i could hlep with their enquiries. Stupidly i agreed and went on my own. I told them i was stood at the office window waiting for paperwork and heard two office wallers gossiping about the alleged offence, but other then that i knew nothing. They then proceeded to caution me, because as far as they were concerned i knew more and was being deceptive, and asked if i wanted a solicitor. When he turned up and had a chat with me, he was not happy as i should not have spoken to them without legal representation, and by admitting i had heard something, i could have incriminated myself because hearing something means i knew about it, and therefore it could be taken that i was also involved…And if i had done no comment they would not have cautioned me, as they had no reason to. See how they work?
I don’t suppose the solicitor also told you that they get paid per appearance either did they so going no comment gets them another pay day (as recently admitted on tv from one of the countries largest law firms) or that should you go to court having gone no comment and failed to give your account (which may well have negated the allegations) that the court would frown upon this and hit you harder as they see it as wasting their time. Again nothing to do with the police your choice not to speak and your right. If you have nothing to hide why not speak up for yourself?
Whilst i agree with the nothing to hide speak up, as i have said above i had nothing to hide and spoke up. If they have no evidence then doing a no comment will not lead to a court appearence. The CPS will only take it to court if they have a good chance of conviction. No evidence, no conviction, so highly unlikely to be a court appearence.One of my Police mates has told me, that it is their job as prosecutors to gain the evidence to help ensure a conviction, thats why they do interviews, to gain evidence, so a no comment interview will not give them any evidence. As it turned out i was not prosecuted, mainly because i didn’t know anything other then what the office gossips had said. As my solicitor also told me, it is not for the Police to prove my guilt,because they assume i’m already guilty it is for me to prove my innocence.
mickyblue:
'…Happy Keith you one of those freeman of the land gents…? ’
Is that PC approved language for ‘The Accused’ - or something completely OT 
mickyblue:
‘… A day out with an officer would change your views…’
I’d sooner eat worms, ta 
starfighter:
Go on YouTube and search for dont speak to the police.
then search for policewoman ■■■■■■■■■■
Happy Keith:
mickyblue:
'…Happy Keith you one of those freeman of the land gents…? ’Is that PC approved language for ‘The Accused’ - or something completely OT
mickyblue:
‘… A day out with an officer would change your views…’I’d sooner eat worms, ta
No look it up “Freeman of the land”
RoadsRat:
Happy Keith:
RoadsRat:
Happy Keith:
Greg:
‘… Why …’ etc‘…Yeah…’ etc
Stop looking so guilty when stopped, and stop the paranoia of the police.
I don’t ‘do’ guilt - nor am I in a position to ‘…stop…’ or otherwise amend any type of behaviour as practised by a Government employee or agency.
It’s the Government (in the form of Plod’s boss/Line Management’) who dictate to us the brilliance [sic] of ‘Diversity’ in UK society.
So perhaps all plod ought accept that the public retains the right to be the people that we ■■■■ well please to be
If some plod don’t like it, they maintain the right to feel as chuffed-off with Big Brother as some out here clearly do - or leave their cushily paid job.
They ought not take revenge, or otherwise abuse some poor sap, based upon on any perceived ‘poor attitude’.
As we know, ‘the customer is always right’ - and this customer aint up for abuse from an employee of mine
Ah, so you’re “one of them”.
“Cushily paid” job? News to me. Nothing cushy about it. 6 x 12 hour shifts (2 nights, 2, days, 2 earlies) dealing with the dregs of society and mountains of paperwork for less than £30k. .
Join the club 