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And you could be sitting on a gold mine as they become collectable.The oldest tax disc went for 810 pound.
I’m sure that a celebrity tax disc would be collectable
Even a disc from a HGV as cars are two a penny.
Courtesy of this is money
I could be sitting on a future goldmine then 
picked up a new car last week received tax disc this morning from dvla (as was taxed from 1st of september ) date of issue on disc 30th september this really could be the last on ever issued
Juddian:
How do you go an about buying a used car now.Ok, see car in ad, travel 100 miles or whatever and come to a deal, pay the seller and arrange insurance over the phone then and there, but what do you do about taxing it? or do you drive the thing home risking a nick and then wait for several days for the insurance details and your ownership to be uploaded so you can tax it online.
Another ■■■■ up, why can’t they leave things alone, c’mon Nige hurry up and get elected and put some common sense back into the country.
They don’t get a refund immediately (yet) as the seller will still have to send off their section of the V5 to get it. You’ll find that even if you insure the vehicle on-line or over the phone you will still have problems taxing it immediately anyway as the checking system is generally a few days behind so driving it back you will still be covered.
Can’t say Nige would do anything about it anyway as I don’t believe it’s an EU thing, it’s just the government trying to cut costs at our expense.
How quick your car shows on the MID database allowing you to tax it is down to how good or bad your own insurance company are not the actual dvla systems, I update registrations on my own fleet policy online straight to the MID systems, on one recently put it on the policy online went to post office 10 minutes later and its was showing as insured and able to tax .
According to in an article in Classis & Vintage Commercials (which may or may not be totally correct), if you buy a car you cannot even drive it home until you have taxed it,however, it goes on to say that ‘tax can be paid at most but not all Post Offices, and new arrangements are being introduced under which tax can be paid online or by phone 24 hours a day, seven days a week’, presumably for those who can’t get their new car during the normal working day. 5% handling/interest charge for paying by monthly DD.
I’ll take mine out of the windscreen on Sunday when I get home from holiday, currently in Cyprus, simply because I don’t like stuff in the windscreen.
As with any change people looking for problems where there are either none of there are simple solutions. People complaining about the website when they left it to the last minute, just like the big queues in the Post Office on the last and first day of the month. Folk don’t like change and look for any opportunity for a moan.
Parked up in unit thinking should I take it but I suppose it’s not my property. Was thinking about international collectors that have an interest in UK HGV.
As you can’t instantly buy a used car and tax it straight away there must either be a grace period or you would have to get the seller to driver the car to your own address
Juddian:
How do you go an about buying a used car now.Ok, see car in ad, travel 100 miles or whatever and come to a deal, pay the seller and arrange insurance over the phone then and there, but what do you do about taxing it? or do you drive the thing home risking a nick and then wait for several days for the insurance details and your ownership to be uploaded so you can tax it online.
Another ■■■■ up, why can’t they leave things alone, c’mon Nige hurry up and get elected and put some common sense back into the country.
A very good point. This really hasn’t been thought through and as usual the motorist gets the thin end of the wedge!
Conan the Librarian:
Juddian:
How do you go an about buying a used car now.Ok, see car in ad, travel 100 miles or whatever and come to a deal, pay the seller and arrange insurance over the phone then and there, but what do you do about taxing it? or do you drive the thing home risking a nick and then wait for several days for the insurance details and your ownership to be uploaded so you can tax it online.
Another ■■■■ up, why can’t they leave things alone, c’mon Nige hurry up and get elected and put some common sense back into the country.
A very good point. This really hasn’t been thought through and as usual the motorist gets the thin end of the wedge!
My g/f this morning took her recently bought MG to a DVSA place in Peterboghorror to get a VIC check (no log book with the car) , the car was MOT’d last week, insurance started midnight last night, told she could legally drive there untaxed but it must be taxed to drive away from there. She taxed it online at the DVSA site, no problems.
Edit to add, with the advent of smartphones etc I’d imagine that if you drove the 100 miles or so to buy a car you’d tax it online once you’d bought it. After all you wouldn’t drive back with no insurance would you? 
, so why would RFL be any different?
ROG:
Undecided at the moment - might wait until 01/01/2015 and wrap it up in the licence paper counterpart before binning
Needed to wash windscreen in and out so … removed it
the maoster:
Conan the Librarian:
Juddian:
How do you go an about buying a used car now.Ok, see car in ad, travel 100 miles or whatever and come to a deal, pay the seller and arrange insurance over the phone then and there, but what do you do about taxing it? or do you drive the thing home risking a nick and then wait for several days for the insurance details and your ownership to be uploaded so you can tax it online.
Another ■■■■ up, why can’t they leave things alone, c’mon Nige hurry up and get elected and put some common sense back into the country.
A very good point. This really hasn’t been thought through and as usual the motorist gets the thin end of the wedge!
My g/f this morning took her recently bought MG to a DVSA place in Peterboghorror to get a VIC check (no log book with the car) , the car was MOT’d last week, insurance started midnight last night, told she could legally drive there untaxed but it must be taxed to drive away from there. She taxed it online at the DVSA site, no problems.
Edit to add, with the advent of smartphones etc I’d imagine that if you drove the 100 miles or so to buy a car you’d tax it online once you’d bought it. After all you wouldn’t drive back with no insurance would you?
Fair point…aslong as the insurance database is updated…
Conan the Librarian:
Juddian:
How do you go an about buying a used car now.Ok, see car in ad, travel 100 miles or whatever and come to a deal, pay the seller and arrange insurance over the phone then and there, but what do you do about taxing it? or do you drive the thing home risking a nick and then wait for several days for the insurance details and your ownership to be uploaded so you can tax it online.
Another ■■■■ up, why can’t they leave things alone, c’mon Nige hurry up and get elected and put some common sense back into the country.
A very good point. This really hasn’t been thought through and as usual the motorist gets the thin end of the wedge!
Why would it be any different to what it was last week? Dealer cars don’t usualy come with tax, the dealer will tax it for you with the V5 in your name, don’t think that will change.
I’ve removed mine 
that’s all folks 
■■■■ em 
got new disc in my car already
m1cks:
tachograph:
As far as I’m aware they don’t seize vehicles for having no road tax.I’ll try and double check but I think they can and will only release once any tax due and fines are paid.
They’re not going to allow an untaxed vehicle to carry on with its journey.Edit: they had a clamp down on untaxed cars and had a roadside crusher in operation a few years ago. Any untaxed cars were seized and crushed there and then if the driver didn’t pay.
Things may have changed but they used to let you carry on, the police would report it to the DVLA who would then make you back pay road tax to the last time it was taxed.
tachograph:
m1cks:
tachograph:
As far as I’m aware they don’t seize vehicles for having no road tax.I’ll try and double check but I think they can and will only release once any tax due and fines are paid.
They’re not going to allow an untaxed vehicle to carry on with its journey.Edit: they had a clamp down on untaxed cars and had a roadside crusher in operation a few years ago. Any untaxed cars were seized and crushed there and then if the driver didn’t pay.
Things may have changed but they used to let you carry on, the police would report it to the DVLA who would then make you back pay road tax to the last time it was taxed.
Yep I’ve just had a conversation with a traffic officer. Police won’t seize for tax but DVLA do have the power to seize for no tax.
There are two problems with this scheme. And both have happened to me already!
Buy a used car, the ONLY way to tax it is to take the V5C/2 (new keepers supplement) to a post office. If the vehicle is missing a V5 it is effectively off road until the new V5 arrives and this can take 2 weeks or more. I have been told to ring DVLA back on the 8th.
Number plate theft. Imagine my disbelief when I find my back plate was pinched today!! There is of course now no double check against the tax disk of the car, so impersonating another vehicle just got a heap easier. (The only funny thing here is that the thieving toe rags stand a good chance of being pulled for no tax for reason 1 above as I still haven’t been able to tax the thing!)
Epic fail
weeto:
Conan the Librarian:
[quote=“Juddian”A very good point. This really hasn’t been thought through and as usual the motorist gets the thin end of the wedge!
''Why would it be any different to what it was last week? Dealer cars don’t usualy come with tax, the dealer will tax it for you with the V5 in your name, don’t think that will change.
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The above is weeto’s quote, as usual i buggered up the quoting.
Don’t buy cars from dealers, always buy privately, cars i buy are always taxed even if its only for a few days, all i’m bothered about is getting the thing home all legally without triggering an interceptor (Interceptor, oh perlease get over yourselves) and subjecting meself to some well practiced patronising.
th2013:
There are two problems with this scheme. And both have happened to me already!
Buy a used car, the ONLY way to tax it is to take the V5C/2 (new keepers supplement) to a post office. If the vehicle is missing a V5 it is effectively off road until the new V5 arrives and this can take 2 weeks or more. I have been told to ring DVLA back on the 8th.
Number plate theft. Imagine my disbelief when I find my back plate was pinched today!! There is of course now no double check against the tax disk of the car, so impersonating another vehicle just got a heap easier. (The only funny thing here is that the thieving toe rags stand a good chance of being pulled for no tax for reason 1 above as I still haven’t been able to tax the thing!)
Epic fail
Buying a car without a V5!! not being able to tax it isnt the biggest problem there, what you really have to watch out for with the “ive lost the V5 will give you a full receipt” story is Logbook loans!! (dont always show as finance outstanding if you HPI them usually hide as a security alert!)
edwardj:
th2013:
There are two problems with this scheme. And both have happened to me already!
Buy a used car, the ONLY way to tax it is to take the V5C/2 (new keepers supplement) to a post office. If the vehicle is missing a V5 it is effectively off road until the new V5 arrives and this can take 2 weeks or more. I have been told to ring DVLA back on the 8th.
Number plate theft. Imagine my disbelief when I find my back plate was pinched today!! There is of course now no double check against the tax disk of the car, so impersonating another vehicle just got a heap easier. (The only funny thing here is that the thieving toe rags stand a good chance of being pulled for no tax for reason 1 above as I still haven’t been able to tax the thing!)
Epic fail
Buying a car without a V5!! not being able to tax it isnt the biggest problem there, what you really have to watch out for with the “ive lost the V5 will give you a full receipt” story is Logbook loans!! (dont always show as finance outstanding if you HPI them usually hide as a security alert!)
Fair point - in this case I knew the owner well. Otherwise would not have gone ahead.
th2013:
There are two problems with this scheme. And both have happened to me already!
Buy a used car, the ONLY way to tax it is to take the V5C/2 (new keepers supplement) to a post office. If the vehicle is missing a V5 it is effectively off road until the new V5 arrives and this can take 2 weeks or more. I have been told to ring DVLA back on the 8th.
Number plate theft. Imagine my disbelief when I find my back plate was pinched today!! There is of course now no double check against the tax disk of the car, so impersonating another vehicle just got a heap easier. (The only funny thing here is that the thieving toe rags stand a good chance of being pulled for no tax for reason 1 above as I still haven’t been able to tax the thing!)
Epic fail
You’re not supposed to sell a car without a V5 so if you buy without one that’s your risk and you would expect to wait for a V5.