nickyboy:
I’ve been doing it 23 years, it’s hard work and they throw a lot of [zb] at you, over the top training etc. New drivers go to Integrad where they’re taught to deliver boxes, how to walk, how to carry stuff, how to move a trolley about etc etc, it’s laughable for what is in essence delivering a parcel. They even have a mini village to drive around and deliver packages, you learn twice as much on the job
If you can rise above the pressure they put you under, go out and do your days work and enjoy it then it’s a pretty enjoyable well paid job.
Just out of curiosity; do they still have the ban on beards? I worked for UPS solutions in Derby (previously Haulfast) and it wasn’t an issue there, but on the parcels side you had to be clean shaven. I’m going back nearly 20 years mind.
No, that was lifted a couple of years ago when most of the drivers began growing them under masks during Covid
Tattoos are also fine, it’s recommended they’re covered up however but in reality nobody does and it’s never challenged unless they’re in particularly bad taste
nick12399:
I think so… I did see something about that at the interview - I don’t have a beard or tattoos so should be fine. I tend to shave every other day though and by the end of the second day its a bit stubbly - wonder if that will be acceptable
Clean shaven in my case but did wear jeans and a cotton shirt under the awful polyester uniform ironically was even more comfortable in the Summer.
nickyboy:
I’ve been doing it 23 years, it’s hard work and they throw a lot of [zb] at you, over the top training etc. New drivers go to Integrad where they’re taught to deliver boxes, how to walk, how to carry stuff, how to move a trolley about etc etc, it’s laughable for what is in essence delivering a parcel. They even have a mini village to drive around and deliver packages, you learn twice as much on the job
If you can rise above the pressure they put you under, go out and do your days work and enjoy it then it’s a pretty enjoyable well paid job.
Just out of curiosity; do they still have the ban on beards? I worked for UPS solutions in Derby (previously Haulfast) and it wasn’t an issue there, but on the parcels side you had to be clean shaven. I’m going back nearly 20 years mind.
No, that was lifted a couple of years ago when most of the drivers began growing them under masks during Covid
Tattoos are also fine, it’s recommended they’re covered up however but in reality nobody does and it’s never challenged unless they’re in particularly bad taste
Who judges that the tattoo is within “bad taste” ?
Carryfast:
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But can confirm that 3 avoidable accidents in a year you’re out and driving assessments are ongoing not just at the start and ditching anything won’t fit the 3 avoidables criteria.
I would sooner clean toilets then work for UPS as a 7.5t driver.
When they have their vans built in such a way that the passenger door is always open to allow you to easily get in and out of the cab for multidrops it makes me think that your gonna be rushed off your feet.
adam277:
I would sooner clean toilets then work for UPS as a 7.5t driver.
When they have their vans built in such a way that the passenger door is always open to allow you to easily get in and out of the cab for multidrops it makes me think that your gonna be rushed off your feet.
I’ll let you into a secret- all parcel work rushes you off your feet, it’s the nature of the beast. Don’t see many fat parcel van drivers. I’m the fittest I’ve been my entire life. Bonus with UPS is they actually seem to consider the driver with these vans.
Lucy:
It’s a good point Luke makes. I cut my wagon-driving teeth doing parcels for Nightfreight - in a 15-tonner. My knees still haven’t forgiven me…
The same applies to all multidrop work.
25 drops means 1 drop every 24 minutes of a 10 hour shift including driving to it and getting parked.
Now make it 50 drops + collections.
It’s a job for masochists.
Yea, I started off with Nightfreight although they were changing over to DX-Freight at the time.
Jumping from the back of the lorry did not do my knees any good lol.
Lucy:
It’s a good point Luke makes. I cut my wagon-driving teeth doing parcels for Nightfreight - in a 15-tonner. My knees still haven’t forgiven me…
The same applies to all multidrop work.
25 drops means 1 drop every 24 minutes of a 10 hour shift including driving to it and getting parked.
Now make it 50 drops + collections.
It’s a job for masochists.
Or people who aren’t ready to retire just yet and have to take what they’re given in a incredibly rural area. My run, Corwen has the miles and the drops. Did this image for my blog other day, I work 4 on 3 off.
Also worth noting for Carryfasts sake of all the Yodel trunk drivers who bring us our parcels in Aberystwyth I’ve not actually seen one even get out the lorry yet let alone get in back to help
Lucy:
It’s a good point Luke makes. I cut my wagon-driving teeth doing parcels for Nightfreight - in a 15-tonner. My knees still haven’t forgiven me…
The same applies to all multidrop work.
25 drops means 1 drop every 24 minutes of a 10 hour shift including driving to it and getting parked.
Now make it 50 drops + collections.
It’s a job for masochists.
Or people who aren’t ready to retire just yet and have to take what they’re given in a incredibly rural area. My run, Corwen has the miles and the drops. Did this image for my blog other day, I work 4 on 3 off.
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Also worth noting for Carryfasts sake of all the Yodel trunk drivers who bring us our parcels in Aberystwyth I’ve not actually seen one even get out the lorry yet let alone get in back to help
Daresay Im being thick..? What about those dogs, sheep, and goat? They werent all parceled up for delivery were they? Painted on the cab door? youtube.com/watch?v=w9lmCpIzhFo
Carryfast:
The same applies to all multidrop work.
25 drops means 1 drop every 24 minutes of a 10 hour shift including driving to it and getting parked.
Now make it 50 drops + collections.
It’s a job for masochists.
Or people who aren’t ready to retire just yet and have to take what they’re given in a incredibly rural area. My run, Corwen has the miles and the drops. Did this image for my blog other day, I work 4 on 3 off.
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Also worth noting for Carryfasts sake of all the Yodel trunk drivers who bring us our parcels in Aberystwyth I’ve not actually seen one even get out the lorry yet let alone get in back to help
It depends if ‘drops’ is being confused with bulk drops involving lots of parcels at one customer in your figures.
But the logistics and time and motion figures for even 100 proper seperate ‘drops’ at different places can only be eye watering based on a 10 hour shift.
That works out at 10 drops per hour a drop has to be done every 6 minutes.Get behind on any that means less time for the rest of them.
Ironically I also used to laugh at the idea that any trunk driver would be expected to handball loads.
Until it happened.
Ever since then I take my original premise with a pinch of salt unless proven otherwise.
Bearing in mind that even UPS connected drivers have stated here that it doesn’t happen there when I’ve got the proof that it does or at least did as of 1997.
I’d like to know if something changed in that regard since and exactly when and why.
Carryfast:
The same applies to all multidrop work.
25 drops means 1 drop every 24 minutes of a 10 hour shift including driving to it and getting parked.
Now make it 50 drops + collections.
It’s a job for masochists.
Or people who aren’t ready to retire just yet and have to take what they’re given in a incredibly rural area. My run, Corwen has the miles and the drops. Did this image for my blog other day, I work 4 on 3 off.
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Also worth noting for Carryfasts sake of all the Yodel trunk drivers who bring us our parcels in Aberystwyth I’ve not actually seen one even get out the lorry yet let alone get in back to help
It depends if ‘drops’ is being confused with bulk drops involving lots of parcels at one customer in your figures.
But the logistics and time and motion figures for even 100 proper seperate ‘drops’ at different places can only be eye watering based on a 10 hour shift.
That works out at 10 drops per hour a drop has to be done every 6 minutes.Get behind on any that means less time for the rest of them.
Ironically I also used to laugh at the idea that any trunk driver would be expected to handball loads.
Until it happened.
Ever since then I take my original premise with a pinch of salt unless proven otherwise.
Bearing in mind that even UPS connected drivers have stated here that it doesn’t happen there when I’ve got the proof that it does or at least did as of 1997.
I’d like to know if something changed in that regard since and exactly when and why.
No, believe it or not the amount of drops is the amount of stops. The amount of parcels have another name- parcels.
For built up and city areas 100 would be a fairly low amount, and 10 hours way too long. Most drivers done in less time than that.I’d be doing a drop every 6 minutes on even my incredibly rural run with several km between drops, a city or town would be counting time between drops in seconds. The most I’ve done in a day was 93 round Oswestry, total run was 11 hours which included driving from Aberystwyth to Oswestry and back.
Have you ever not wondered why your experience of unloading seems to have been exclusively you? No one it seems has ever agreed with you that it happened either on the internet or in real life As I’ve stated before I think you spent your working life as a yes man and now regret it. My condolences.
Carryfast:
It depends if ‘drops’ is being confused with bulk drops involving lots of parcels at one customer in your figures.
But the logistics and time and motion figures for even 100 proper seperate ‘drops’ at different places can only be eye watering based on a 10 hour shift.
That works out at 10 drops per hour a drop has to be done every 6 minutes.Get behind on any that means less time for the rest of them.
Ironically I also used to laugh at the idea that any trunk driver would be expected to handball loads.
Until it happened.
Ever since then I take my original premise with a pinch of salt unless proven otherwise.
Bearing in mind that even UPS connected drivers have stated here that it doesn’t happen there when I’ve got the proof that it does or at least did as of 1997.
I’d like to know if something changed in that regard since and exactly when and why.
No, believe it or not the amount of drops is the amount of stops. The amount of parcels have another name- parcels.
For built up and city areas 100 would be a fairly low amount, and 10 hours way too long. Most drivers done in less time than that.I’d be doing a drop every 6 minutes on even my incredibly rural run with several km between drops, a city or town would be counting time between drops in seconds. The most I’ve done in a day was 93 round Oswestry, total run was 11 hours which included driving from Aberystwyth to Oswestry and back.
Have you ever not wondered why your experience of unloading seems to have been exclusively you? No one it seems has ever agreed with you that it happened either on the internet or in real life As I’ve stated before I think you spent your working life as a yes man and now regret it. My condolences.
You’re running from Aberystwyth to Oswestry and then doing 93 drops.
Whereas the only time I did anything like that type of job I left most of the load behind in the warehouse and brought back most of what I took.Then got an apology from the client for clearly misrepresenting a 7.5t multi drop round in London as a trunk run which intuition told me was probably bs in the daytime.
Look on the bright side I still got paid for a shift.
As for the row regarding Feeders loading and tipping trucks.It happened.
It was also anything but saying yes to it on my part.
But ironically was a wrong call by me in (eventually) backing down with the pressure of the Union being on the side of the firm against me.That bit I really do regret.
adam277:
I would sooner clean toilets then work for UPS as a 7.5t driver.
When they have their vans built in such a way that the passenger door is always open to allow you to easily get in and out of the cab for multidrops it makes me think that your gonna be rushed off your feet.
You can do 60 drops in a conventional 7.5tonner as some drivers do or 90 drops in a package car, i guarantee doing them out of the vehicle that is actually built for the job of multidrop is a lot easier and takes about the same amount of time.
You don’t actually have to leave the door open though
