Unwanted distractions or aids to safety?

Juddian:

eagerbeaver:
Microlise and other systems in conjunction with this relentless pursuit of fuel economy bring definite distractions. Keep an eye on the speedo, keep an eye on the green rev band, whilst keeping eyes on numerous mirrors at the same time.

Hopefully you will still have a spare eye on the sat nav, and will not miss your junction.

Hang on, why have I slowed down? That will be the adaptive cruise control. What’s that sudden intrusive noise? That will be the lane departure warning.

Woah! Why has the truck braked harshly all of a sudden? Probably because that car moved into the lane in front of me. But I could see that the car was travelling quicker than me and was indicating to move in front of me!!

The situation was all under control until the all seeing eye took over.

IN MY VIEW THE TECHNOLOGY IS NOW BECOMING A MAJOR DISTRACTION AND IS A COMPLETE HINDERANCE TO A PROFESSIONAL DRIVER.

a big +1

Steering will take over next when the sensor ‘sees’ danger, probably drive up a tree.

One of my friends has a new scania with that annoying warming system that either beeps like a demented morse code message or flashes lights like a poor man’s version of Blackpool if he crosses a white line. Considering we spend most of the day crossing the white line on narrow country roads, I’d say it is nothing short of ■■■■■■■ dangerous. I think he spends more time shouting at it or punching it than he does concentrating.

happysack:

Evil8Beezle:

the maoster:
Too right Pete. Bloody technology eh? I assume that once you’ve finished doing your hand washing of your clothing and cooked your dinner over an open fire then you and your family will gather around the piano by candlelight and have a good old sing song?

He’ll come back and read that after surfing some ■■■■ mate! :wink:

Pete - It’s not the Prat-Nav’s fault, it’s the bellend that’s following it blindly!

He comes from a time when ■■■■ was one of those old through the keyhole or what the butler saw, black and white silent movies.

Also for dizzypetes benefit. You stick your sat nav to the window. You don’t hold it to your ear.

Is it safer to drive in a city centre without a sat nav but a bloody great truckers atlas on your lap? I can remember often struggling steering while my Philips navigator was held up on the steering wheel.

why would you need to have a huge map on your lap whilst driving through a busy city centre ? just how thick are you ? no wonder drivers like you need a sat nav
we made a route plan you knew the road numbers you went in on the road numbers you would be taking out of the citys it was easy no need to hold anything but then thats what the morons do who dont have clue

desypete:

happysack:

Evil8Beezle:

the maoster:
Too right Pete. Bloody technology eh? I assume that once you’ve finished doing your hand washing of your clothing and cooked your dinner over an open fire then you and your family will gather around the piano by candlelight and have a good old sing song?

He’ll come back and read that after surfing some ■■■■ mate! :wink:

Pete - It’s not the Prat-Nav’s fault, it’s the bellend that’s following it blindly!

He comes from a time when ■■■■ was one of those old through the keyhole or what the butler saw, black and white silent movies.

Also for dizzypetes benefit. You stick your sat nav to the window. You don’t hold it to your ear.

Is it safer to drive in a city centre without a sat nav but a bloody great truckers atlas on your lap? I can remember often struggling steering while my Philips navigator was held up on the steering wheel.

why would you need to have a huge map on your lap whilst driving through a busy city centre ? just how thick are you ?
we made a route plan you knew the road numbers you went in on the road numbers you would be taking out of the citys it was easy no need to hold anything but then thats what the morons do who dont have clue

I’m really ■■■■■■■ thick. I’m that thick that i did exactly what you said with a bit of paper. Street names, road numbers, towns etc. I’m that thick that often I’d find a closed road, or blocked road, a turn i couldn’t make because a car was parked on the corner. I’m that thick that in such cases I didn’t have twelveteen back up routes written down on bits of paper. I’m that thick I’d have to use a map.

I’m that ■■■■■■■ thick that i still don’t have a sat nav. I’m that thick that i often have to use an ordnance survey map to find my way around.

I’m that thick that like many i can remember the days before sat nav. But I’m not that thick that i can’t adapt to change. I’m that thick that i don’t ■■■ in my cab. Maybe I’m not a proper trucker like you.

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why would you need to have a huge map on your lap whilst driving through a busy city centre ? just how thick are you ?
we made a route plan you knew the road numbers you went in on the road numbers you would be taking out of the citys it was easy no need to hold anything but then thats what the morons do who dont have clue
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I’m really [zb] thick. I’m that thick that i did exactly what you said with a bit of paper. Street names, road numbers, towns etc. I’m that thick that often I’d find a closed road, or blocked road, a turn i couldn’t make because a car was parked on the corner. I’m that thick that in such cases I didn’t have twelveteen back up routes written down on bits of paper. I’m that thick I’d have to use a map.

I’m that [zb] thick that i still don’t have a sat nav. I’m that thick that i often have to use an ordnance survey map to find my way around.

I’m that thick that like many i can remember the days before sat nav. But I’m not that thick that i can’t adapt to change. I’m that thick that i don’t ■■■ in my cab. Maybe I’m not a proper trucker like you.
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i agree with you about you being thick that is a good point you make, i couldnt of made it better myself

^^^^^

Does anyone else see the irony of someone who can’t use the “quote” button properly, calling someone else thick?

:laughing:

Ha ha ha

I would like a wireless with a knob so you can line up a line with the number of the radio program one wants to listen to

F-reds:
^^^^^

Does anyone else see the irony of someone who can’t use the “quote” button properly, calling someone else thick?

:laughing:

yet another thick sat nav worshipper i take it or maybe you have never changed gears in a truck in your life ? or worse still your just a class 2 little driver ?

desypete:

F-reds:
^^^^^

Does anyone else see the irony of someone who can’t use the “quote” button properly, calling someone else thick?

:laughing:

yet another thick sat nav worshipper i take it or maybe you have never changed gears in a truck in your life ? or worse still your just a class 2 little driver ?

Out come the handbags!

A fair contest would mean both contestants use identical drivers bags containing the necessary items for driving a truck.

However, Pete would be at a disadvantage because his bag would be slightly lighter due to lack of DCPC card.

eagerbeaver:
A fair contest would mean both contestants use identical drivers bags containing the necessary items for driving a truck.

However, Pete would be at a disadvantage because his bag would be slightly lighter due to lack of DCPC card.

And his bag would be lighter… not having a sat nav… :smiley:

But to be fair, Pete’s bag would contain a few of his turds, so he could end up better off.

Sounds like a lot of crap to me…lmao…

desypete:
you will be telling me next, that to change gear in a manual is a distraction for the poor driver

It is !
I was very distracted the other day, while I had my TGX in manual, when I was changing my Trousers. [emoji6]

desypete:
yet another thick sat nav worshipper i take it or maybe you have never changed gears in a truck in your life ? or worse still your just a class 2 little driver ?

Sat nav worshipper? Yes - got an atlas too, but I’ve never needed it as I haven’t driven through any EMPs yet.

Never changed gears? Sorry disappoint - I cut my teeth on a four over four, I’m not old enough for an Eaton Twinsplit, but I don’t miss the stick now I drive an auto.

Class 2 only? Yep - you got me there :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

If you want Pete I’ll take you out for the day mate and show you how an up to date, clean, well presented truck and driver, earns their daily crust.(Class 2 only though - sorry!) Then perhaps you can show me what 27 years of ■■■■■■■■ in a carrier bag looks like…

Oh, and being “rough as a bears arse”… :unamused:

eagerbeaver:
A fair contest would mean both contestants use identical drivers bags containing the necessary items for driving a truck.

However, Pete would be at a disadvantage because his bag would be slightly lighter due to lack of DCPC card.

you forget though my bag would have bog roll in it for those times your out on the road with no where to go for a number 2 so it would be light indeed

Radar19:
Out come the handbags!

Never!

I wouldn’t risk my Louis in a fight :wink: I do, do a killer mince off though :laughing:

desypete:
sat navs should be banned for hgv drivers there a clear distraction that end up in disaster many a time as a driver blindly follows one. i can not believe you can get such a stiff penalty for using a mobile phone whilst driving yet sat navs seem to be ok

if a driver can not get around without a sat nav then really he shouldn’t be behind the wheel of a truck. we got around them ok before they were invented and i dont see the need for them now at all for hgv drivers as there dangerous

Oh Pete mate, Pete mate, oh dear! :unamused:
This really has to stop, it’s getting a bit embarrasing for you now, you have got talking out of your ■■■■ down to a fine art. :smiley: and you continue to excel yourself at every post. :smiley:

Distraction (if there is any) is not the issue with sat nav users ending up in a fix, it’s incompetence :bulb: …that is the problem, and is not an issue with all sat nav users as you point out at every opportunity, (along with your opinion of the dcpc. :unamused: )

I use a sat nav, so am I one of your morons also?
Now be careful Pete how you answer, as remember I have a few more years on that ‘vast experience’ you keep reminding us all of, in crash boxes ropes and sheets and all the other dead arts, when telling us how more a superior driver you are, with your crap bag swinging beside you.
Take a day off Pete, it will do you good. :wink:

robroy:

desypete:
sat navs should be banned for hgv drivers there a clear distraction that end up in disaster many a time as a driver blindly follows one. i can not believe you can get such a stiff penalty for using a mobile phone whilst driving yet sat navs seem to be ok

if a driver can not get around without a sat nav then really he shouldn’t be behind the wheel of a truck. we got around them ok before they were invented and i dont see the need for them now at all for hgv drivers as there dangerous

Oh Pete mate, Pete mate, oh dear! :unamused:
This really has to stop, it’s getting a bit embarrasing for you now, you have got talking out of your ■■■■ down to a fine art. :smiley: and you continue to excel yourself at every post. :smiley:

Distraction (if there is any) is not the issue with sat nav users ending up in a fix, it’s incompetence :bulb: …that is the problem, and is not an issue with all sat nav users as you point out at every opportunity, (along with your opinion of the dcpc. :unamused: )

I use a sat nav, so am I one of your morons also?
Now be careful Pete how you answer, as remember I have a few more years on that ‘vast experience’ you keep reminding us all of, in crash boxes ropes and sheets and all the other dead arts, when telling us how more a superior driver you are, with your crap bag swinging beside you.
Take a day off Pete, it will do you good. :wink:

now far be it for me to call you silly names like a moron robroy or a bell end i wouldn’t stoop so low as to insult the forum tart
now what are we arguing about on this thread ?
oh yes the sat nav moron driver
while its true it is more the lack of skill of a driver that might lead to the more serious of road mishaps like the bridge being hit or bikes being cut up while there to busy making up there minds did the sat nav mean this road to turn left or the next one ? which i am sure your far to smart a driver for that to happen to you robroy
but the fact remains drivers get confused, they get lost, they end up in wrong lanes then cause all sorts of mayhem trying to get back on track and there only aid is a screen that there to busy looking at trying to work out which way to go instead of eyes on the road

the sat nav is a major distraction and i shudder to think how many accidents have really happened because the driver was to busy looking at the screen ? but of course no driver is going to admit they were to busy looking at the screen in the event of an accident are they ? no there then more interested in trying to save there own skin and coming out of it like its not there fault

i wonder just how long you have been driving if you can not understand the difference robroy of how it was before they came along and how it is today

one finaly point i have is i well remember a guy who i once worked with refusing to do a drop as he didnt know where it was and the sat nav couldn’t find it so the firm simply give the job to a driver that knew where the drop was
that shown me just how silly the drivers are becoming in the hgv world and dependant on technology to do it all for them

mobile phones and sat navs should be banned from the cabs and the guys have to learn just how to be a real professional driver.

Right, so writing down your route on a bit of paper and having to refer to it as you go, is different and less dangerous than listening to a Sat-Nav and glancing it at from time to time? :open_mouth:

As for 1 driver that wouldn’t do a drop because the Sat-Nav (or rather he) didn’t know where it was…
How is that good enough, or a large enough sample group to tar everyone with the same brush? Oh wait, it isn’t! :laughing: