You trying to fish a troll?
USDAW, although they have in the past negotiated many cracking deals , especially in the retail area, my own experience of them was that they consistently failed to back up stewards and that their officers were far too cosy with management (read into that what you will)
Just about says it all really! 
Biggest problem the workers have at present is finding a political party who will represent them. Until then
The trade unions are at present putting pressure on the Labour party to return to its’ core values.
My own branch sent a resolution to the Executive council proposing that we withold any paymentsor contributions to either the Labour party or any individual MP’s unless they actually start to improve the workers conditions and protections.
The pressure is building but is slow, very slow!
Thanks for the advice all, dont think I’ll bother joining one! Sure I can find summat else to spend the money on 
Join its not just about wages its about the general erosion of workers rights a single voice dosent shout very loud …
If you are not going to join can I suggest that you put the subs you might have paid into a piggy bank, in a couple of years you will have a fighting fund in the event you ever need recourse to legal advice.
del949:
If you are not going to join can I suggest that you put the subs you might have paid into a piggy bank, in a couple of years you will have a fighting fund in the event you ever need recourse to legal advice.
Nah…why bother? He’ll never have the need…
It beats me why some people in any industry are so dead set against being a member of a Union.
If you bother to find out… you may be surprised to learn that most of your bosses in management are in a Union… just as they are in most industries.
The CEO’S… and senior board members of large corporations and companies…most definitely will.
That’s why business’ get what they want and you don’t.
It beats me why some people in any industry are so dead set against being a member of a Union
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In most cases it comes down to 2 things
1 they have been bombarded with anti union propoganda for years and now believe it to be the truth
2 they are too tight to spend approx £10 per month unless they can see something tangible for it.
there are not many who have a honest,reasonable or genuine aversion to unions on principle, some but not many.
^^^^^ Spot on. 
del949:
It beats me why some people in any industry are so dead set against being a member of a Union
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they have been bombarded with anti union propoganda for years and now believe it to be the truth
^ This.
Not adverse to unions as such just only place I worked with union it was jobs for the boysfor the union reps.
What ■■■■■■ me off is about 5/6 guys at the place i work are not union members, yet every wage neg. by union agreed,
they get the rise as well. If your not prepared to pay the £10.00 per month union dues, ■■■■ off and neg. your own wage rise.
jobs for the boysfor the union reps.
a rep who is any good will always be in a ther better jobs because the bosses try to buy him off.
A good rep will take the sweeteners and still stand up for his workmates.
What ■■■■■■ me off is about 5/6 guys at the place i work are not union members, yet every wage neg. by union agreed,
they get the rise as well
I agree, but there’s nothing you can do about it , so don’t let it worry you
(you could always get a baseball ba…no lets not go there 
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@Ashton Gate
An excellent point.
Problem is when Unions are discussed this very point is always… without exception… overlooked and never recognised by the Union bashers.
They slag off Unions and it’s members… but like parasites… take the benefits when they are won. And still won’t concede on the Union and it’s members efforts.
Could that be because the Union reps are clued up on how some companies work… and how these companies try by devious means to coerce drivers to be compliant… by threats from the powers that be… and so are reluctant to take them on at their own game?
Just a thought.
Ooops! don’t know where that link came from Fixed it. 
I’m in the WEU, workers of england union.
They seem to be very good and have helped quite a few of my fellow drivers.
Ive heard that they won’t put a rep in the workplace because they don’t want to be corrupted.
Once 51% of the workforce join a union the company has to reconise it.
However, if your in a union that has less than 51%, you can still be represented by the union at disapline hearings.
The reason I joined the WEU is because they are a new union and not militant lefties, time will tell.
Is it worth joining a union?
It’s all done to your own personal circumstances.
Being disabled with a blue-badge, I had to get the union involved when the employer/site owner ignored my request to install disabled parking spaces in the workplace. Help and guidance from the union and the threat of a tribunal for discrimination under the Equality Act, soon changed their behaviour. I doubt I could have achieved the same results on my own.
rambo19:
I’m in the WEU, workers of england union.
They seem to be very good and have helped quite a few of my fellow drivers.
Ive heard that they won’t put a rep in the workplace because they don’t want to be corrupted.Once 51% of the workforce join a union the company has to reconise it.
However, if your in a union that has less than 51%, you can still be represented by the union at disapline hearings.
The reason I joined the WEU is because they are a new union and not militant lefties, time will tell.
How do you identify the line between so called ‘militant leftyism’ and taking action if/when it’s needed.The fact is all of the so called ‘lefty’ action over the years has been about improving/defending terms and conditions and increasing wage levels and living standards and therefore spending power to provide growth in the domestic economy.While it’s the Chinese communist party that’s benefitted most from the global free market economy.
There won’t be much point in having Union representation at disciplinary hearings under the type of conditions which the Tory government and the employers intend to impose in the medium to long term.So how would a so called non militant Union deal with that situation. 
The term “Lefty” as used by the Murdoch press and the Union bashing Mainstream Media and government is a real corruption of the word.
Used as it is by these fools it has come be engrained on the sheep mentality to mean “Communism” where in fact it means “Socialist” but the sheep don’t know or understand the difference between “Communism” and “Socialism” and that is the problem.
There is a huge difference between the two meanings.
@rambo
I’m unfamiliar with that Union - Ummm must take a look at it. Interesting.
@thrustmaster.
Just goes to show what can be done when employers come up against savvy Union reps. Pleased for you.