albion:
i read it, that it’s those god awful pallets with the slats running horizontally across the bottom, making it impossible to get a pump truck under.
Wht I would have done is force the ends of the forks under the side of the pallets, lift enough to get some skids under, then lift the whole pallet and drop it onto a fourway.
So long as the forkie knows what they are doing, it works fine.
A decent pump truck should be able to break the bottom slats enough to drag them.
maybe, having battled with a few in my time, it’s easier said than done. That and half of those type pallets are too narrow to actually get a pump truck in.
When I used to do Tilt work we regularly got the problem of 2 way pallets being loaded through back on a loading bay and then needing to be offloaded on the side, or getting a pallet truck and unloading through the back doors and then having a problem with them being too thin to get a pallet truck in, but I can’t remember a time when somehow we didn’t find a way to get them unloaded.
Co-operation, perseverance and a bit of humour seemed to get the job done.
Juddian:
Could you not drop a pallet truck on the body and couple of you either turn the things round or run them to the back of the trailer and lift 'em off.
If somebody says Health and Safety i’ll bloody scream.
This^^^
Really want to drag a 1.5 ton pallet on a pallet truck?
It would not be mine favourite option, refuse to drag anything above 750kgs, for the risk and for my knees, elbows and back.
Put it this way, no I would not really ‘want’ to, but the lad had to get back to Belgium, so I would help him out having been in similar situations myself, and I’m sure 2 of us could manage together to get them turned.
As above always a way. Obviously how hard your going to try to find that way, deepens on loads of factors, the main one being how much you want/need the product for your customers! If It wasn’t going to impact your customers then no big deal refusing this load. Just make sure you contact the relevant people to make sure it doesn’t happen again!
Like most of you my first instinct is to get it done somehow if at all possible but it’s not always so easy nowadays.
The sand was in 25kg bags and as mentioned above the pallets had slats on the bottom, delivery was not urgent.
Thanks for the replies, very helpful.
I think everybody assumed that this was in bulk bags and not in 25 kg ones. That is not going to go down well but I suppose it is a sign of the times. There would have been no hesitation a few years ago, put up a pallet and another bod to help the driver and tranship it onto 4 ways; job done in half an hour.
caledoniandream:
Really want to drag a 1.5 ton pallet on a pallet truck?
It would not be mine favourite option, refuse to drag anything above 750kgs, for the risk and for my knees, elbows and back.
Yup. I managed it OK and I’ve got three knackered discs in my back. Your trailer and unit no doubt have these things called air suspension? Lower the back, raise the front and let physics help you out.
Yes it’s a common problem. Used to get it all the time when crates of marble stone were delivered from the continent. You won’t stop them doing it just got to improvise. Would recommend getting a low profile pump truck but there are usually plenty of other ways to skin a cat. It was dicey though they would frequently double stack the wooden crates in the trailer.
Seems a daft way to transport sand if was in bulk. We always use 1t+ bulk bags for aggregate, easy to load/offload. Sounds like it may have been in 25kg bags, if so just handball it off. If not, a chain around the pallet and just pull the whole pallet off the trailer, its only sand…
FFS all the grief this will have caused by refusing a delivery of 234 bags of sand, i would hang my head in shame if I could not have got that off a trailer even at my age…
dave docwra:
FFS all the grief this will have caused by refusing a delivery of 234 bags of sand, i would hang my head in shame if I could not have got that off a trailer even at my age…
Exactly, the cost involved in having to return that and no return load either could run into thousands. If i was the driver i would have handballed the lot off onto the floor. The return load would far out weigh the cost of no signature for a few tonnes of sand…
dave docwra:
FFS all the grief this will have caused by refusing a delivery of 234 bags of sand, i would hang my head in shame if I could not have got that off a trailer even at my age…
Exactly, the cost involved in having to return that and no return load either could run into thousands. If i was the driver i would have handballed the lot off onto the floor. The return load would far out weigh the cost of no signature for a few tonnes of sand…
yup.+1 there…i got a load of bread products rejected at morrisons northwich a while ago brought over from n.i…after the buck passing ended the decision was." you need an empty trailer for frozen at stone asap"…they phoned round to tranship it elsewhere and nobody would take it and it was more to return than dump…£100 for my troubles and dumped it got.handballed out the back door round the back of some ind estate outside of stoke…job done and a few fat rats and seagulls later the fridge was empty.i was £100 up…trailer into get loaded,and i was on the bang anyway so no extra time off.happy days all round…no doubt the gypjops got a freebie as well as there was ages of sell by date left on the stuff. never heard anymore about it
caledoniandream:
Really want to drag a 1.5 ton pallet on a pallet truck?
It would not be mine favourite option, refuse to drag anything above 750kgs, for the risk and for my knees, elbows and back.
Yup. I managed it OK and I’ve got three knackered discs in my back. Your trailer and unit no doubt have these things called air suspension? Lower the back, raise the front and let physics help you out.
I don’t get it!
Big part of the people on here wouldn’t want to off-load at Lidl/Aldi with an ELECTRIC pallet truck on a dock and level floor.
But they don’t have a problem to off-load 1.5 ton pallets with a HAND pallet truck from an open trailer 8 foot from the floor■■?
You wonder why things never improve and health and safety rules are became what they are now.
And for dumping it, and leave your rubbish for someone else, that is no mentality!
albion:
Wht I would have done is force the ends of the forks under the side of the pallets, lift enough to get some skids under, then lift the whole pallet and drop it onto a fourway.
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When I used to do Tilt work we regularly got the problem of 2 way pallets being loaded through back on a loading bay and then needing to be offloaded on the side, or getting a pallet truck and unloading through the back doors and then having a problem with them being too thin to get a pallet truck in, but I can’t remember a time when somehow we didn’t find a way to get them unloaded.
Co-operation, perseverance and a bit of humour seemed to get the job done.
Which is why my first choice would be shoving the forks under and spinning them or throwing skids under and dropping them on a fourway.
5 years stuffing containers and loading/off-loading Euro trailers (no ramps generally), and I never failed to get a vehicle tipped or loaded.
caledoniandream:
I don’t get it!
Big part of the people on here wouldn’t want to off-load at Lidl/Aldi with an ELECTRIC pallet truck on a dock and level floor.
But they don’t have a problem to off-load 1.5 ton pallets with a HAND pallet truck from an open trailer 8 foot from the floor■■?
You wonder why things never improve and health and safety rules are became what they are now.
I supose thats the difference between a driver and a curtain puller…
As been stated the load was 25kg bags of sand, and if it’s anything like the 25kg bags of flour will be 40 bags per tonne/pallet, which is hardly difficult to handball off especially if it’s a case of restacking it onto standard pallets while on the back of the trailer, or at least use 1 slave pallet, then restack onto the 1st original pallet, this would probably take 2 people and hour+ with a forkie moving the pallets once they’re restacked. I used to regularly handball >10 tonnes of flour solo, inc carrying it into premises so restacking pallets on the back would’ve been a piece of pee.
The consignee was a Saudi arab who was easily charmed by a traveling sand salesman. Obviously he felt a bit duped and the real reason for rejecting the load was buyer’s regret.
