This another rich Brexiteer boss starting to realise it’s not gone how they expected it?
I think all these toerags thought most of the EEs already here would stay so they could still have an enormous pool of cheap labour but cut back on employment rights/wages/conditions as well.
Looks like covid put paid to their dreams. Hilarious.
JeffA:
This another rich Brexiteer boss starting to realise it’s not gone how they expected it?I think all these toerags thought most of the EEs already here would stay so they could still have an enormous pool of cheap labour but cut back on employment rights/wages/conditions as well.
Looks like covid put paid to their dreams. Hilarious.
And you actually know she is a ‘brexiteer’ …because??.
Or is this just you and your crew’s usual default …‘‘Blame every ■■■■ thing on Brexit’’.
Hilarious.
robroy:
JeffA:
This another rich Brexiteer boss starting to realise it’s not gone how they expected it?I think all these toerags thought most of the EEs already here would stay so they could still have an enormous pool of cheap labour but cut back on employment rights/wages/conditions as well.
Looks like covid put paid to their dreams. Hilarious.
And you actually know she is a ‘brexiteer’ …because??.
Or is this just you and your crew’s usual default …‘‘Blame every [zb] thing on Brexit’’.
Hilarious.
Merely a suspicion, I could be way off.
Nothing to do with Brexit rights or wrongs - just amusing seeing brexiteers demanding more migration. That was always the way it was going to be tho - a lot of skint people looked to Brexiteers like Tim Martin as wanting Brexit for the same reason they did. That was mistaken.
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Ah so I was bang on then.
robroy:
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Ah so I was bang on then.
That’s not been established.
JeffA:
robroy:
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Ah so I was bang on then.That’s not been established.
Oh I think it has, we’ve all read your posts on other threads, which establishes things quite clearly.
I think shes just disproven the whole “we need all the EU drivers back” to fix this and its all due to B thing with her comment:
We saw 14,000 EU lorry drivers leave jobs in the UK in the year to June 2020, but only 600 returned by July 2021.
Oh so the 100K we’re short of has essentially nothing to do with that B thing by about 75,000 so either the RHA are talking out of their arses making up figures or the the RHA are talking out of their arses…
Diddums to them and the scummy slave-wage owning companies they rely on.
robroy:
JeffA:
robroy:
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Ah so I was bang on then.That’s not been established.
Oh I think it has, we’ve all read your posts on other threads, which establishes things quite clearly.
Oh really? Perhaps in your own mind.
trevHCS:
I think shes just disproven the whole “we need all the EU drivers back” to fix this and its all due to B thing with her comment:We saw 14,000 EU lorry drivers leave jobs in the UK in the year to June 2020, but only 600 returned by July 2021.
Oh so the 100K we’re short of has essentially nothing to do with that B thing by about 75,000 so either the RHA are talking out of their arses making up figures or the the RHA are talking out of their arses…
Diddums to them and the scummy slave-wage owning companies they rely on.
You are forgetting covid and Ir35. Without those there would still be plenty of EEs regardless of brexit.
trevHCS:
I think shes just disproven the whole “we need all the EU drivers back” to fix this and its all due to B thing with her comment:We saw 14,000 EU lorry drivers leave jobs in the UK in the year to June 2020, but only 600 returned by July 2021.
Oh so the 100K we’re short of has essentially nothing to do with that B thing by about 75,000 so either the RHA are talking out of their arses making up figures or the the RHA are talking out of their arses…
They are going home to work in an industry that at least has a relatively ( much ) better future.In a more road transport friendly environment than our rail biased government can/will ever provide.
As said in previous threads, the EE’s left even though they were legally entitled to stay. Probably because pay & conditions had improved in their native countries. Therefore, to entice them back the employers will still need to increase pay. So, these increases are likely to go on for some time.
JeffA:
robroy:
JeffA:
robroy:
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Ah so I was bang on then.That’s not been established.
Oh I think it has, we’ve all read your posts on other threads, which establishes things quite clearly.
Oh really? Perhaps in your own mind.
Nah not really, as proven by similar accusations chucked at you by other members on other threads.
LazyDriver:
As said in previous threads, the EE’s left even though they were legally entitled to stay. Probably because pay & conditions had improved in their native countries. Therefore, to entice them back the employers will still need to increase pay. So, these increases are likely to go on for some time.
The maths of just Poland alone almost having the European road transport market/productivety share of UK, Italy and France combined and more than Germany’s share says they won’t be coming back here to drive a scaffold/hiab/supermarket delivery wagon even for 30k + pa.
They say they need the EU drivers as a “short term fix” but I think we all know that once they have their way, they will always have an argument to keep the status quo.
These businesses are not interested in “investing in UK workers” & are desperately trying to wriggle out of it. Paying more for drivers & transport is a spanner in their works. They want the government to best enable a supply of ready qualified ‘bums 4 seats’ on tap so they can suppress wages.
LazyDriver:
As said in previous threads, the EE’s left even though they were legally entitled to stay. Probably because pay & conditions had improved in their native countries. Therefore, to entice them back the employers will still need to increase pay. So, these increases are likely to go on for some time.
The REAL reason the EE’s went home is because they had to start paying tax as of April this year, but that isn’t a comfortable thing to put out to the media from the government as folk might ask how long it’s been going on for…(not paying tax & pretending to be a LTD company)…
rob22888:
They say they need the EU drivers as a “short term fix” but I think we all know that once they have their way, they will always have an argument to keep the status quo.These businesses are not interested in “investing in UK workers” & are desperately trying to wriggle out of it. Paying more for drivers & transport is a spanner in their works. They want the government to best enable a supply of ready qualified ‘bums 4 seats’ on tap so they can suppress wages.
It won’t happen when all they’ve mainly got to offer is a deliberately contracting industry, made up of mostly retail/building materials etc distribution and all that implies, combined with UK living costs.
As opposed to a growing industry, in large part offering the option of European trunking/tramping, possibly 2/3 weeks on 1 week off rotas and east euro living costs.
Carryfast:
News reports state that Cobham services is littered with abandoned east euro reg trucks and their drivers are all queueing up in Camberley to earn 30k + for class 2 all claiming the right to work here and saying that going home to do class 1
What news reports? I see no abandoned trucks in Cobham.
Santa:
Carryfast:
News reports state that Cobham services is littered with abandoned east euro reg trucks and their drivers are all queueing up in Camberley to earn 30k + for class 2 all claiming the right to work here and saying that going home to do class 1What news reports? I see no abandoned trucks in Cobham.
I think it was a misunderstanding mate. It was reported that a few 20 year old DAF’s had been abandoned but it was actually just a few Nolan drivers on a daily rest.
Santa:
I see no abandoned trucks in Cobham.
Obviously 30k + to drive a scaffolding wagon didn’t attract them back to work here and leave the job they’ve been offered at home. 
eagerbeaver:
I think it was a misunderstanding mate. It was reported that a few 20 year old DAF’s had been abandoned but it was actually just a few Nolan drivers on a daily rest.
Like the East Euros I don’t think the Irish had parked up to queue up for the scaffold wagon job on offer at Camberley either. 