To tell or not to tell?

alphonsohall:
Bear in mind also, that DD is a criminal offence and will show up on any CRB enquiry for the next 10 yrs.

When you apply for car insurance you are always specifically asked if you have had a DD conviction, the answer is simply yes or no… it matters not what is on your licence as it would be easily provable if the anomaly came to light that you KNEW about the conviction, remember that the application form is a legal document and any non-disclosed info will invalidate the contract.

Failing to disclose the conviction to a prospective employer could have extremely serious consequences as most/all employers cannot employ a previous DD driver due to insurance reasons, if asked about DD by a potential employer it won’t be sufficient to simply show him your licence, he will still expect a verbal or written answer which could open a new can of worms of obtaining employment by deceit.

I would guess you are right in what you say however the police and insurance would get information from the dvla and there data says not been baned for DD if it was me i would say nothing the question is what would you do

He could always do a CRB check, and see what that throws up.

deck21:

alphonsohall:
Bear in mind also, that DD is a criminal offence and will show up on any CRB enquiry for the next 10 yrs.

When you apply for car insurance you are always specifically asked if you have had a DD conviction, the answer is simply yes or no… it matters not what is on your licence as it would be easily provable if the anomaly came to light that you KNEW about the conviction, remember that the application form is a legal document and any non-disclosed info will invalidate the contract.

Failing to disclose the conviction to a prospective employer could have extremely serious consequences as most/all employers cannot employ a previous DD driver due to insurance reasons, if asked about DD by a potential employer it won’t be sufficient to simply show him your licence, he will still expect a verbal or written answer which could open a new can of worms of obtaining employment by deceit.

I would guess you are right in what you say however the police and insurance would get information from the dvla and there data says not been baned for DD if it was me i would say nothing the question is what would you do

For peace of mind, I personally would set the record straight, its just not worth future years of having that worry at the back of your mind that it will all catch up (and it will!)… Somewhere in the depths of the legal dept, there will exist records of the conviction and ban, and its likely that they will find their rightful home at some point and the error will then probably come to light.

If you admit it, then you are in the clear, and will have been honest.

If you don’t and the DVLA have no record of the conviction, you will likely get away with it, even if the police etc. enquire at any stage. If, however you fib, and it turns out your licence and their records disagree, you could be in very, very big trouble. You are legally obliged to tell the insurance company about any convictions, as it forms part of a legally binding contract.

The choice is yours.

weeto:
He could always do a CRB check, and see what that throws up.

This is true at the end of the day he went to court some where the info has gone a miss is it just with the DVLA or is it on the crimnal history as well i would think that there is no record of his offence any where buy i dont know how are legal system works. and my view is still unchanged i would say nothing :grimacing: :grimacing:

Truckulent:
If you admit it, then you are in the clear, and will have been honest.

If you don’t and the DVLA have no record of the conviction, you will likely get away with it, even if the police etc. enquire at any stage. If, however you fib, and it turns out your licence and their records disagree, you could be in very, very big trouble. You are legally obliged to tell the insurance company about any convictions, as it forms part of a legally binding contract.

The choice is yours.

its not me im talking about it is a mate who told me about his licence and i thought i woul ask others what they would do if they where him i said to him say nothing :open_mouth:

He has no need to as dangerous driving offences can be taken off you license after 4 years ffrom date of offence or conviction.

is it not the case that ALL insurance companies will be checking your application against the dvla data base and any non disclosure will result in refusal of insurance or penalizing qoute plus this would be shared with all other insurance companies so resulting in them all knowing what you have been upto

is it worth it realy could come back and bite him on the arse

it’s a criminal offence, whether he takes the risk is up to him. Obtain pecuniary advantage!
In a previous life when I worked for the Probation Service, one bod failed to declare a theft of £20 when he was 18 when he applied for a job, years down the line the company brought in CRB checks, the theft came to light and he got 200 hours of unpaid work!

Latique:
is it not the case that ALL insurance companies will be checking your application against the dvla data base and any non disclosure will result in refusal of insurance or penalizing qoute plus this would be shared with all other insurance companies so resulting in them all knowing what you have been upto

is it worth it realy could come back and bite him on the arse

its upto him what he does if it was me i would say nothing i would say the insurance industry would check licence details with the DVLA he has checked with them and his licence is clean on there computer system no record of his conviction of DD He could not say if it is on a criminal record but some where the info has been lost how far that goes he can not say :open_mouth:

Fileep:
it’s a criminal offence, whether he takes the risk is up to him. Obtain pecuniary advantage!
In a previous life when I worked for the Probation Service, one bod failed to declare a theft of £20 when he was 18 when he applied for a job, years down the line the company brought in CRB checks, the theft came to light and he got 200 hours of unpaid work!

I still hold my view of say nothing maybe he should do a CRB on himself to see if it is recorded on his record but one thing is for sure the DVLA have no record of DD so some where the info has not been recorded at what point who knows i dont for one :astonished:

halfers:
He has no need to as dangerous driving offences can be taken off you license after 4 years ffrom date of offence or conviction.0

DD… drink driving or dangerous driving?, … I assumed the OP was referring to drink driving which remains on the licence for 11 years.

alphonsohall:

halfers:
He has no need to as dangerous driving offences can be taken off you license after 4 years ffrom date of offence or conviction.0

DD… drink driving or dangerous driving?, … I assumed the OP was referring to drink driving which remains on the licence for 11 years.

DR IS 11 and DD 4 im not sure which one he reffured to but i thought it said dangerous driving

Need to work out if it was Dangerous Driving or Drink Driving, confusion in first post methinks :slight_smile:

DD40 Dangerous driving

Reckless/dangerous driving
These codes must stay on a driving licence for 4 years from the date of the conviction.

OR

DR10 Driving or attempting to drive with alcohol level above limit
DR20 Driving or attempting to drive while unfit through drink

Drink or drugs
Codes DR10 to DR30 must stay on a driving licence for 11 years from the date of the conviction.

gov.uk/penalty-points-endor … lty-points

halfers:

alphonsohall:

halfers:
He has no need to as dangerous driving offences can be taken off you license after 4 years ffrom date of offence or conviction.0

DD… drink driving or dangerous driving?, … I assumed the OP was referring to drink driving which remains on the licence for 11 years.

DR IS 11 and DD 4 im not sure which one he reffured to but i thought it said dangerous driving

it was drink driving

Kaistar:
Need to work out if it was Dangerous Driving or Drink Driving, confusion in first post methinks :slight_smile:

DD40 Dangerous driving

Reckless/dangerous driving
These codes must stay on a driving licence for 4 years from the date of the conviction.

OR

DR10 Driving or attempting to drive with alcohol level above limit
DR20 Driving or attempting to drive while unfit through drink

Drink or drugs
Codes DR10 to DR30 must stay on a driving licence for 11 years from the date of the conviction.

gov.uk/penalty-points-endor … lty-points

Drink Driving