I would say that regardless to who loaded the vehicle it is down to the driver! he is the one who is responsible for the vehicle and load when on the road. Any discrepancy should be made before moving vehicle onto a public road and if no weighbridge available then it is still up to the driver. nearest weighbridge could be miles away!
If in doubt I would say no in the first instance because it is the drivers licence that will be hit first!
I am getting fed up of hearing this whole thing about if you haven’t worked for a firm for 2 years there is little you can do crap. We aint monkeys we do have a right as long as we back our right up with hard evidence and paperwork that is needed. You can’t be sacked if you go to a weigh Bridge, or even get her to have a tape recorder in her pocket and record what the boss says get him to admit she is overloaded and will sack her if the delivery ain’t done. Hard evidence right there don’t be made a fool of we don’t deserve it
dri-diddly-iver:
I would say that regardless to who loaded the vehicle it is down to the driver! he is the one who is responsible for the vehicle and load when on the road. Any discrepancy should be made before moving vehicle onto a public road and if no weighbridge available then it is still up to the driver. nearest weighbridge could be miles away!If in doubt I would say no in the first instance because it is the drivers licence that will be hit first!
Problem is customer say has load of 10.75 tonnes. Does customer purposefully overload the ten tonne payload vehicle by a ‘bit’, or get a vehicle with a much heavier payload in at a much higher cost? The driver as always, is the one at risk.
Tippers on site work are often overweight, but you can’t go to a weighbridge with every load, as you lose time and money.
LIBERTY_GUY:
Tippers on site work are often overweight, but you can’t go to a weighbridge with every load, as you lose time and money.
2 things. I thought that money per load/bonus was now illegal! Site tippers (depending on which site you mean) all have a weighbridge.
I pull a bulker and can only recall landfill loads that don’t have a weighbridge - although I’ll apologise if proved differently.
I worked occasionally from two quarries that didn’t have working weighbridges and hadn’t a clue what weight I had on at any time! I just put maximum tonnage on my ticket, we filled our own tickets in, and risked it. Their own trucks all had weighers fitted. Oddly enough the only time I got pulled in at Bingham for a weight check was when I HAD used a weighbridge at a Tarmac quarry, only I couldn’t see the scales so had to accept what the clerk put on the ticket. Found that I was almost half a tonne over on top weight but they were not bothered about that “Filled up with diesel since loading have we driver?” and I just agreed! 
Pete.
LIBERTY_GUY:
When I drive tippers where they are being loaded by 360 machines, it is not uncommon for them to be overweight, if there is a weighbridge available at the tipping point.When I did the dcpc last year, one of the instructors said the law was changing where those who overload the vehicle will also be legally accountable for any fines too. As to the accuracy of that I don’t know, but anything that hits those that purposefully overload other people’s vehicles, sounds like a good move to me. I was once overladen by a tonne of steel by someone at the customers that thought would be a good idea (not).
Known as consignor liability ,I can’t see it coming in ,I think that it’s something the Fta And Rha have different opinions on as the Fta are not just for hauliers like the RHA .
dri-diddly-iver:
LIBERTY_GUY:
Tippers on site work are often overweight, but you can’t go to a weighbridge with every load, as you lose time and money.2 things. I thought that money per load/bonus was now illegal! Site tippers (depending on which site you mean) all have a weighbridge.
I pull a bulker and can only recall landfill loads that don’t have a weighbridge - although I’ll apologise if proved differently.
I can think of three local(ish) tipper companies offhand that offer load bonus payments as the norm. One actually describes it directly as load bonus too. Think they only become illegal payments if you can’t earn minimum wage without them? Although someone may give more clarification to that. Skip companies also pay bonus based on number of loads. As regards being overweight most tippers don’t have self weighers, nor do construction sites have weighbridge facilities, so you are effectively stuffed in that role
All the Toyota forklifts at one of my customers display how much weight is on the forks so I know exactly how much is on the vehicle.
cav551:
All the Toyota forklifts at one of my customers display how much weight is on the forks so I know exactly how much is on the vehicle.
Hahahahaha…you assume the forkies can read and add up properly !
Or care !!!
Obtain proof of overloading then Refuse the load and if boss kicks up report him to VOSA / Police who would be interested to talk to him / her