Spardo coming from Notts how did you make you dosh,breaking the picket line and running coal during the minners strike■■?
Spardo coming from Notts how did you make you dosh,breaking the picket line and running coal during the minners strike■■?
1, learn to spell. 2, bit below the belt that one. i was a notts miner. doubt you have ever seen a mine shaft let alone worked in one.
Never crossed a picket line,have you■■?.
ps Learn grammar and how to complete a sentence,
why should i ?. we wasnt the ones on strike. get you facts right lesson number 2. number 3 before you spout off. different union also. whay should we support the man who single handed ruined the coal mining industry.
why should i ?. we wasnt the ones on strike. get you facts right lesson number 2. number 3 before you spout off. different union also. whay should we support the man who single handed ruined the coal mining industry.
I,why should I, … well it makes you look stupid
2,who said you was,(now you look even more stupid)
3,whay hey is it or just whay,think you mean why,never knew Maggie had real balls to be called a man,At least I can tell the difference between a man and a women,even if you can’t.
froggy:
Spardo,you are now showing the fact that you are an OAP,read my post.Nowhere do I say I needed a FIMO,.
And nowhere did I say that you did either, but you seemed to be saying that :
spend X pounds on a FCOS and a month in a classroom
seeing as FCOS is only 3 days. 
As for the rest of your inane rantings I’ll leave it to the Catalans to decide how much worth you are. Not much according to your own reports of earnings.
Oh, and BTW, I never crossed a picket line either, but I did support the working Notts. miners whose only crime was to ask for a democratic vote, just like members of any other union worth its salt.
FCOS and FIMO are both needed to have any chance of any to work in France,Xpounds on a FCOS and a month in the cassroom for the other(also X pounds,but a few more than the cost of a FCOS),thats what I posted and thats the way it is.
Sounds like you think living in an enclave full of none french makes you better than the catalans who work for the same money as I do.You stay in doddyshire and draw your pension old boy.
froggy" a mouth in the cassroom…?" Is that what the Catalans have told you.? ( Yeah,he’s the local mouth in the cassroom ):lol: 
It seems its a crime to get old down your part of the world. No wonder Spardo stays put in Pleasantville. The way you have been frothing at the mouth, old age is something you won’t have to worry about.
errrr well, ahem…
yep froggy seems to be even more bitter and twisted than i ever remember, we used to have a laugh whats happened to you froggy■■?
fimo is actually 6 weeks, and mine was paid for by the government as i was on the french eqavalent of the dole (chaumage) and is you read in the uk trucking press you will find that it will soon be coming in to force over in the uk.
i personally found it was well worth the hastle, as i learnt a load of stuff i didnt really know, like how stuff works ie exhaust brakes and there proper use, how the air braking system works, different types of retarders etc etc.
having never previously driven an lhd artic going out with an instructor really boosted my confidance and everything learnt is put in to practise every day. i even showed em how to drive bit the english way, cant have been too bad as even the instructor fell asleep for 2 hours after a session in a routeier!!!
yep i think didier was his name david, really nice lad spoke very highly of you but obviously didnt work with you for long though…
i finish at centre express limousin tonight, had enough of nights and the crap money MY boss pays (it isnt the same every where froggy before you start) and am heading off to Norbert Dentressangle on international, uk and italy earning €1800 a month for 180 hours + overtime+ frais de route + bonus and if weekended around £150 i dont think i will be too badly off 
caveman:
yep i think didier was his name david, really nice lad spoke very highly of you but obviously didnt work with you for long though…
Cheeky young sod, I’ll get you a free transfer to Perpignan. Nobody’s old down there apparently. 
Just to get Coffee involved here , did Didier tell you about the time I told him off for split coupling? For some reason we had each other’s trailers for a few days and I was heading north to tip at Bondoufle, SE Paris. The traffic office rang me as I was relaxing at Salbris and told me to swop with D. as he had loaded my trailer from Angers for Basingstoke. We met somewhere in the middle and before we knew it my trailer was heading in the opposite direction to his unit , I was not best pleased when I saw my trailer legs bending alarmingly before it stopped 
. Oh how we laughed .
i finish at centre express limousin tonight, had enough of nights and the crap money MY boss pays (it isnt the same every where froggy before you start) and am heading off to Norbert Dentressangle on international, uk and italy earning €1800 a month for 180 hours + overtime+ frais de route + bonus and if weekended around £150 i dont think i will be too badly off
Is this a permanent job then, very pleased to hear it, you haven’t always had the best luck landing a decent number? Roule bien.
caveman:
… €1800 a month for 180 hours + overtime+ frais de route + bonus and if weekended around £150 i dont think i will be too badly off
Out of intrest chaps…is that that good,bad, or average for driving for a french company?
And what is “Frais de Route”?..New routes!!, fresh roads!!!, strawberry roads!!!
Cheers (salute) bullitt.
Caveman,unlike you I had over 20yrs(artics) driving behind me before I moved to France,and since this topic is about driving in France I put my 2cents worth in and say and will say the the french will always put a block in the way so that they get things done their way,ie the FIMO/FCOS crap.Kermet could come to the UK with a french HGV licence and start driving the next day for any UK company,because of the 2 F’s it is not possible for a UK licence holder to do the same in France.
Anyway when I get old I will move to Spain as the folks down there are not as stuck up like the old brit ex-pats in the doddyshire,even though some only drove a truck.E1800 per hour for 180 is E10 an hour(less than £6.50).180 by 4 weeks a month is 54ish per week so for 14 hours each week one works the 14 hours for normal time,as per the convention,then after that the the deduction are taken.
The moral of the story is driving a truck in France is to work for crap wages,and that is before waiting time parking up is taken in to it.Bitter not me,I love it down here but I am not blinkered.
And what is “Frais de Route”?..
Night out money.
Re Froggy…
French food killed Napoleon
After 186 years France may have to stop blaming Britain for the death of their most famous conqueror, Napoleon, as a study favours a stomach cancer induced by military food, reports AFP’s Richard Ingham.
Nearly 186 years later, a scientific study has cleared Britain of the calumny that it murdered Napoleon, declaring instead that l’empereur was felled by stomach cancer – and French military food was a possible cause.
In the latest twist in a long-running medical saga, pathologists in the United States reassessed Napoleon’s clinical history, the original autopsy and other documents, and compared this evidence with data from 135 gastric cancer patients.
They say they find no evidence to support the enduring myth in France that the perfidious British poisoned Napoleon while he was exiled on St. Helena, where he died in 1821 at the age of 51.
These dark suspicions have endured for nearly two centuries, latterly nourished by the discovery that locks cut from Bonaparte after his death contained arsenic that was between seven and 38 times normal levels.
Instead, the US team say the official autopsy, which concluded stomach cancer was the cause of death, was right.
The post-mortem was a thorough and detailed examination carried out by Boney’s personal doctor, Francesco Antommarchi, in the presence of five British physicians.
It found a huge tumour that ran at least 10 centimetres (four inches) down the side of Napoleon’s stomach. And it also came across “enlarged and hardened” gastric lymph nodes – indicators, says the study, that this cancer was in an advanced, tertiary stage.
Even today, “patients with such tumours have a notoriously poor prognosis,” says the study, which appears in January’s issue of a specialist journal Gastroenterology and Hepatology, published by the Nature group in London.
“Even if the former emperor had been released or had escaped from St. Helena before 1821, his terminal condition would have prevented him from having a further major role in the theatre of European history,” it adds.
What finished Napoleon was a “massive gastric haemorrhage”, it says.
The paper goes further, delving into Napoleon’s medical history, his family background and his diet.
As there is scant evidence that Napoleon had a genetic predisposition to cancer, the likelihood is that the disease developed, as is often the case, from a prepyloric ulcer, it said.
“The risk might have been further increased by his diet, which probably included salt-preserved foods, thoroughly roasted meats and few fresh fruits and vegetables – standard fare for long military campaigns,” says the study.
The lead author of the study is Robert Genta, a professor of pathology at the University of Texas Southwestern’s Medical Center in Dallas, Texas.
Discovery of the arsenic in Bonaparte’s hair in 1961 strengthened the hand of conspiracists who said he had been slowly but deliberately poisoned by the British.
But later studies suggested the toxicity levels were high because they came from exposure to arsenic in the wallpaper in his room or to hair tonic. Both products at that time contained lots of arsenic.
In 2004, another theory emerged for Napoleon’s demise – one that might be termed “the riddle of the sphincter.”
This hypothesis is that he was weakened by repeated doses of colonic irrigation to ease his symptoms of stomach pains and intestinal cramps.
That brutal treatment, combined with regular doses of a chemical called antimony potassium tartrate to induce vomiting, would have left him perilously short of potassium.
That, in turn, can lead to a lethal heart condition known in English, as in French, as “torsades de pointes,” in which the blood flow to the brain is disrupted by bursts of scattered, irregular heart beats. Arsenic would have made him more vulnerable to this condition.
Meanwhile, a small but vocal group in France is campaigning for Napoleon’s corpse, buried beneath the gilt dome of the Invalides military hospital in Paris, to be disinterred and submitted to a DNA test.
They believe the British swapped bodies, sending France a Bonaparte lookalike – a final act of typical Anglo-Saxon treachery.
Copyright AFP
Subject: French News
Just goes to show that the french have never eaten a good meat pies or a steak pud.Think what bonney could of done with them inside.
iT DOESN’T BEAR THINKING ABOUT!!!
bullitt:
caveman:
… €1800 a month for 180 hours + overtime+ frais de route + bonus and if weekended around £150 i dont think i will be too badly offOut of intrest chaps…is that that good,bad, or average for driving for a french company?
And what is “Frais de Route”?..New routes!!, fresh roads!!!, strawberry roads!!!
.
The short answer Bullitt, is that I don’t know because it is 4 years since I retired, but when I finished at the end of 2002 I was averaging about €1600-€1700 pm for around 200 hours, but that included all hours at work. This is, as I say, 4 years out of date info and I live in an area of high unemployment and low wages. We were on the legal minimum. Suited me though because I had sorted all my debts and had no kids and mortgage to worry about anymore.
Plus, and the infirm de Catatonia fails to mention this, the cost of living is so much lower. Maybe things are different in ripoff (the only place in France where I was shortchanged at a restaurant) Catatonia. Who knows? I can hardly understand our local reporter down there anyway.
Frais de route is NO money plus meal money. In 2002 we got €4 for breakfast, €10 for lunch, €10 for dinner, and €21 for the night = €44 per day away, more than adequate in routiers at that time.
Qoute"Plus, and the infirm de Catatonia fails to mention this, the cost of living is so much lower…"
Less of the infirm you 'owd git.As for the cost of living it is not that much lower and anyone comimg to france with kids and has to work will be in for a hard time,more so if they can not read/speak french to a very good standard.
Do you know about the convention that covers drivers salaire,s in France,it exempts drivers from the 35 hour working week and sets wage levels,you say it was 200hr per month a few years ago,last year it was 184hr per month,that is what most drivers are paid.
Right… “Frais de Route” in layman’s terms, the cost of the road… It includes, provisions for 3 meals a day, if you are trunking and hotel money if you are overnighting. When I was working in the UK I got £20 a day… Couldn’t live on that!! Here I will be getting (if I am away for a night, including 2 meals) it’s €48.87. And breakfast is €6.30… So that’s a grand total of €55.17 per day, which is tax free! And as I will be doing international there’s 18% on top of that to allow for the difference in cost of living abroad. So that’s another €9.93 a day bringing us up to a grand total of €65.10 a day… If my maths are correct! 
So times that by 4 (4 days a week, and then again by 4 4 weeks in a month) That brings us to a total of… €1041.60 a month totally tax free! That’s not including Fridays where I will have an allowance for breakfast and lunch, and Mondays lunch. Did I mention that was tax free?! Not too shabby seeing as I only got £20 a DAY in England.
I also will get “Primes” which is like an incentive scheme, of €45… For Diesel economy, keeping my truck clean, and no reserves. (Breakages)
Plus my basic wage…Plus overtime… And waiting time is paid as well.
So all in all, i’m not exactly going to be on the bread line! And as someone else mentioned the cost of living is much cheaper than the UK, which is why we can afford to have 3 horses, 2 dogs and the largest cat on earth, run two cars and still afford to be fat and smoke like chimneys!
Vive La France!
Cheers for explaining that caveman…sounds like you fell on your feet there and had a right little touch!!!.
Good luck with the job,
Regards, bullitt.