robroy:
Ring the Old Bill…it’s what they are paid to do and why you pay your tax, ok the only result will be a crime no, but at least youv’e done your bit/covered your arse…(sorry could not resist the last bit I love winding up the ex coppers on here, it’s my job.
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I am shocked to hear you would snitch. 
After saying so often in the past it’s up to the Old Bill and not jobs worth’s amongst us to fight crime. 
Hurryup&wait:
robroy:
Ring the Old Bill…it’s what they are paid to do and why you pay your tax, ok the only result will be a crime no, but at least youv’e done your bit/covered your arse…(sorry could not resist the last bit I love winding up the ex coppers on here, it’s my job.I am shocked to hear you would snitch.
After saying so often in the past it’s up to the Old Bill and not jobs worth’s amongst us to fight crime.
7 out if 10.
It depends on your interpreration of ‘snitching’ as you put it…dunnit.
I’ve already said I would try and deter and disturb them, it’s happened twice or so in the time I’ve done the job and it’s worked both times.
If that did not work I’d be considering they are s bit too lively, nothing is going to bother them, so hand the baton to the Old Bill…also I’ve done that once, while parked up facing the wrong way down a cul de sac with a load of Reebok trainers on one night,.with 4 blokes around my truck.
Tbf I was giving dozy a better alternative than getting his head kicked in anyway,… and ‘‘snitching’’ does not apply if you are in some kind of danger.I would reckon, I prefer to call it…‘self preservation’. 
Hope that explains.
Harry Monk:
So as an “older lad” you’d take on four tooled-up blokes in their twenties in the middle of the night to protect the boss’s diesel?I call BS.
+1 also. Lots of blokes “talk a good fight”, but the reality is very different in my experience.
As for Rob recommending calling the police, too right mate! They’re paid and trained for this, we’re not, plus it’s not our property that’s at risk to there is a limit to our duty of care.
Another thing I’ve learned over the past six decades is that those who attempt to criticize other people for “snitching”, especially when they trot out the old cliche “snitches get stitches” are generally likely to be the least trustworthy person around. If you’ve ever worked with a group of ex-offenders you’ve probably seen this in action already.
The “correct” official terminology (ie the one that won’t get you any grief for saying it) is “clandestine entrants”, saying anything else with the wrong sets of ears around could be a ‘career decision’. I once worked with a guy who was thieving from other staff, all of us who had to work with him were up in arms about it but the company was scared to sack him, the police ignored solid evidence. He finally got the push when he was witnessed shouting racially discriminatory comments at some passing (asian) teenagers.
On that topic, don’t forget that, thankfully, TN isn’t some FB group, it’s provided by “Truck and Driver” magazine. I’m not sure they’d be comfortable with some of the racially-oriented sentiments on this thread. The more high profile you are, the more you have to lose, and the more likely that one of the Mods might be needed to step in so T&D don’t get unwanted grief.
^^^^ last time I looked, a “Criminal” is just that. It isn’t a “Race”, nor a “Nationality” nor even a “Religious Faith”.
We should be shouting for the deceased Portugeuse trucker who lost their life here, because “Criminals” stopped his Truck, which directly led to an altercation where the poor guy ended up dropping dead from a heart attack.
It isn’t “Racist” to shout for said deceased trucker “because he’s white and his attacking criminals were non-white on the most part”.
It isn’t “Nationalist” to stand in solidarity for a foreign trucker who’s lost their lives trying to do his job, which was to get to blighty to make his delivery…
It isn’t “Islamophobic” to point out that whilst many of the attackers may well have been of that religion, there are other religions from the continent of origion of many of these assailants, including Animists and Christians, and all kinds of others in between…
The worst discrimination taking place here - is in fact that the EU and Britain too - only enforce their laws agains their own taxpayers, electorate, property owners, and nationals…
This, of course makes the Politicians - the biggest crooks of all, with such a high-handed double-standard.
NO attempt is being made to stop the tide of illegal immigration to this country…
…And the more these episodes of innocents dying happens - the further towards a more extreme right wing form of government we’ll eventually get. It won’t be enough for incumbent politicians to rig the results so the Centerists always win, when we thought we voted them out in 2015, and supposedly “Got Brexit Done” by a pretend Tory who’s actually the biggest centerist now - even more so than Tony Blair. 
If you spoke to anyone from the Far Right, I reckon you’d find a united front with that legalized far Left outfit known as Momentum - “Tory Scum” being a uniting force right now. THAT is the kind of link-up that led to Adolf Hitler rising to power - and the only way the politicians can avoid such a future outcome, and the public violence that goes with it - is to get a grip NOW whilst they are still in power:
Persecute CRIMINALS before the Criminals put us all on the line and say "If you don’t lock us up, we’ll eventually erradicate your kind from your own country, and take you over entirely" - the world’s first criminal superstate, armed with nuclear weapons to boot"…
Surely - we don’t want THAT as our “Future”…? 
Carryfast:
They seem very desperate to escape France for some reason and France equally doesn’t seem to want them to stay there.
While whatever it is that Boris is offering them to come here it’s obviously worth crossing Europe and the Channel for and better than France is offering them to stay.
Surprised that anyone with any sense would continue to use Calais rather than the west channel crossings.
Preferably even transitting Ireland from France to wrong foot em.Strange how Ireland doesn’t seem to have the same problem.Someone obviously really wants these people to be here specifically.
Indeed, the fact that they are given free accommodation as well as the other fringe benefits and access to the NHS is it any wonder, the tide won’t turn unless all the aforementioned is stopped, but it won’t.
Carryfast:
peterm:
And still these arseoles are called ‘migrants.’They are Illegal immigrants.
Economic migrants
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Winseer:
It had to happen sooner or later.
Trucker dies, and the mainstream media try and blame his “pre-existing conditions” rather than the fact he was attacked by illegal immigrant scum…Lorry driver dies after he was attacked by three Calais migrants | Daily Mail Online
Looks like Truckers are considered a lower form of life than actual criminals once again… “Normality resumed” as far as the mainstream media liars are concerned eh?
You’re trying desperately to read into something something that isn’t there. Every story I’ve read and that one leads with the attack causing the heart attack. Don’t moan about inaccurate media sometimes then moan when it is accurate
Carryfast:
They seem very desperate to escape France for some reason and France equally doesn’t seem to want them to stay there.
While whatever it is that Boris is offering them to come here it’s obviously worth crossing Europe and the Channel for and better than France is offering them to stay.
Surprised that anyone with any sense would continue to use Calais rather than the west channel crossings.
Preferably even transitting Ireland from France to wrong foot em.Strange how Ireland doesn’t seem to have the same problem.Someone obviously really wants these people to be here specifically.
That’ll be because until very recently there were only a handful of ferries from Ireland to France a week, and from fairly distant ports like Cherbourg so not worth the effort of getting there. Be interested to see if risk has increased now massive numbers of extra ferries have been put on since Brexit. Even one from Dunkirk
dozy:
I blame it on the magirity of lorry drivers , we had a thread on here a while ago & the majority said they weren’t security guards & they would do anything if there load / diesel was being thieved , I said I’d not stand by and let them thieve whilst I was there , someone said they might have a knife , so I said take one of your tools , hammer etc with you
As a nation we’ve become soft , 99 % are frightened of there own shadow , years ago if you saw a mate in trouble you’d all of got stuck in , what was his drivers mate doing , other drivers , general public ?
Times have changed & not for the good in my view
Just wish a few of us older lads had been there & the outcome would of been different
Rip mate
Hopefully your family will see fit to proclaim you a hero on your gravestone. Put it this way, your boss wouldn’t put his safety at risk for a truck and a load. Gone soft or just grown up? I think the latter
Hurryup&wait:
robroy:
Ring the Old Bill…it’s what they are paid to do and why you pay your tax, ok the only result will be a crime no, but at least youv’e done your bit/covered your arse…(sorry could not resist the last bit I love winding up the ex coppers on here, it’s my job.I am shocked to hear you would snitch.
After saying so often in the past it’s up to the Old Bill and not jobs worth’s amongst us to fight crime.
That’s a weird definition of snitching. So you’d never call the police ?
switchlogic:
dozy:
years ago if you saw a mate in trouble you’d all of got stuck in , what was his drivers mate doing , other drivers , general public ?
Times have changed & not for the good in my view
Just wish a few of us older lads had been there & the outcome would of been different
Rip mateHopefully your family will see fit to proclaim you a hero on your gravestone. Put it this way, your boss wouldn’t put his safety at risk for a truck and a load. Gone soft or just grown up? I think the latter
It’s clearly not a reference to defending the guvnor’s property.
It has more to do with the government offering these people more than France or anywhere else is offering them and blaming drivers for the resulting invasion.
polytrotter:
Carryfast:
peterm:
And still these arseoles are called ‘migrants.’They are Illegal immigrants.
Economic migrants
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Illegal immigrants!
robroy:
0I see they’re concentrating mire on wearing their [zb] masks rather than concentrate on turning them back.
You lay off the RNLI now. They are volunteers who have been risking their own lives, to go out in God awfully weather, to save lives at sea, no questions asked…
Seriously, they are doing two things. One, do their thing, save lives of those in peril in the worst weather conditions. Secondly, maritime law states that all (all, as in everybidy) in peril at sea, will be assisted by any other mariner, to save their live. Its what international shipping, lives by. Remember those Rose tinted days if truck driver stopping to assist another driver with a flat tyre■■?
That still lives on the water. The RNLI save those in peril. Kick the funking politicos who create the shirt, but not the RNLI.
Just because the gubernment wants to score some popular points with the press, by pretending that they can force the RNLI or the border farce to sink boats…
Jesus, the media really are playing you all like a funking fiddle…
switchlogic:
Hurryup&wait:
robroy:
Ring the Old Bill…it’s what they are paid to do and why you pay your tax, ok the only result will be a crime no, but at least youv’e done your bit/covered your arse…(sorry could not resist the last bit I love winding up the ex coppers on here, it’s my job.I am shocked to hear you would snitch.
After saying so often in the past it’s up to the Old Bill and not jobs worth’s amongst us to fight crime.
That’s a weird definition of snitching. So you’d never call the police ?
It was said tongue in cheek and thus the double wink
As many of us are very aware of Robs aversion to self appointed public and driver’s who have The Old Bill on speed dial for regular use.
So I was only posting for a bit of banter as I am of the same mindset as Rob on the swathe of self appointed public grasses. Rob replied above with his common sense approach but like I said it was only banter.
To answer your direct question would I call the police depended if the fear I felt was enough to overcome the knowledge that I would waste the price of the phone call to generate a false sense of security.
I know a guy who stopped in Doncaster services on a Sunday night because he had over an hour to spare before his delivery only to be woken by the noise of his fridge doors opening.
With curtains still mostly closed he pulled out of the ■■■■■■■■■■■■ air horns maxed out and waited awhile.
Then got out to discover 6 boxes of beef offloaded and the 2 EE’s beside him were each missing 2 pallets (about 5k a pallet) through the side of their trailers.
No show from the police and an hour later he left to make delivery, quite shaken as he is young and only starting out.
2 days later he gets a call from a civilian police worker who gives him a police report number and there it ends.
A few weeks later a parking charge arrives arrives into the office for stopping over the 2 hours without payment and the boss flipped.
He called to let the police know what little he thought of their abilities since the there was obviously photo records of the robbers vehicles coming and going since there was photos of his truck and the precise times were known from tacho.
Likewise he let the parking charge people know how deep he would place their letter if he ever got his hands on them.
As it turns out the drivers original call to the police wasn’t a total waste of time as the insurance needed the police report number.
Now in a foreign country in a foreign language I’m not sure I could even describe my location
Calais and Dunkirk have an intermittent at best police presence at nighttime but I reckon if attacked you are on your own and self preservation is your only chance but I ain’t opening the door.
In fact the security of drivers in the French ports has been appalling for years now and its mostly the fault of the UK authorities who will criminalize any driver that becomes a victim of an immigration crime.
robroy:
Hurryup&wait:
robroy:
Ring the Old Bill…it’s what they are paid to do and why you pay your tax, ok the only result will be a crime no, but at least youv’e done your bit/covered your arse…(sorry could not resist the last bit I love winding up the ex coppers on here, it’s my job.I am shocked to hear you would snitch.
After saying so often in the past it’s up to the Old Bill and not jobs worth’s amongst us to fight crime.
7 out if 10.
It depends on your interpreration of ‘snitching’ as you put it…dunnit.
I’ve already said I would try and deter and disturb them, it’s happened twice or so in the time I’ve done the job and it’s worked both times.
If that did not work I’d be considering they are s bit too lively, nothing is going to bother them, so hand the baton to the Old Bill…also I’ve done that once, while parked up facing the wrong way down a cul de sac with a load of Reebok trainers on one night,.with 4 blokes around my truck.Tbf I was giving dozy a better alternative than getting his head kicked in anyway,… and ‘‘snitching’’ does not apply if you are in some kind of danger.I would reckon, I prefer to call it…‘self preservation’.
Hope that explains.
You spotted my wind up for a bit of banter but I’m with you brother on this one.
Hurryup&wait:
robroy:
Hurryup&wait:
robroy:
Ring the Old Bill…it’s what they are paid to do and why you pay your tax, ok the only result will be a crime no, but at least youv’e done your bit/covered your arse…(sorry could not resist the last bit I love winding up the ex coppers on here, it’s my job.I am shocked to hear you would snitch.
After saying so often in the past it’s up to the Old Bill and not jobs worth’s amongst us to fight crime.
7 out if 10.
It depends on your interpreration of ‘snitching’ as you put it…dunnit.
I’ve already said I would try and deter and disturb them, it’s happened twice or so in the time I’ve done the job and it’s worked both times.
If that did not work I’d be considering they are s bit too lively, nothing is going to bother them, so hand the baton to the Old Bill…also I’ve done that once, while parked up facing the wrong way down a cul de sac with a load of Reebok trainers on one night,.with 4 blokes around my truck.Tbf I was giving dozy a better alternative than getting his head kicked in anyway,… and ‘‘snitching’’ does not apply if you are in some kind of danger.I would reckon, I prefer to call it…‘self preservation’.
Hope that explains.
You spotted my wind up for a bit of banter but I’m with you brother on this one.
The cul de sac occasion was me about 15 years ago, making for that Truckstop just outside Hensall Selby area,.with the pub on the level crossing.
It was full, the road into it was full., so I crossed over , that road was also full,.and I did not realise there were locked gates at the end.
One space outside gates,.so I thought rather than reverse all the way back,.and still have nowhere to park,.I’ll chance it.
Was woke up about 3 hours later 4 blokes around cab, one saw me peek through curtains, I thought this could end badly if they are desperate enough to break in,.so I phoned the law thinking I’m in the ■■■■ here.
Would you believe 5 mins later flashing blue lights 2 police cars, they just happened to be on the M62 when they got a call.
Nothing had been nicked but they pursued a van, never heard if they caught them, got up in morning back flap of tilt had been slashed, and a couple of boxes had been tampered with.
So at end of day 1 out of 10 for me deciding to park in a dodgy place with a desirable load, and to give credit where it was due…10 out of 10 for the Old Bill that particular night.
I would have parked there myself and felt safe enough with so much other gear around and thought it was ok.
You got a great result and a lucky escape for the load.
My understanding is that Police budgets are have been cut in relative terms every year for many years now and they just can’t give a reasonable service today.
The criminals are emboldened by this and our fuel and loads and prime targets.
Calais is a different type of government failure.
I agree with Rob on this…my life is worth more to my family…than illegals or scrotes nicking my diesel or load…i feel for this driver and god bless him and his family…may he r.i.p.
Just to note…i also commented on facebook the following.
This driver was the second to die because of illegals…the French are useless, the British are useless…and how many more must die, because of those not doing their jobs, that we are paying £millions for them to do, its illegal for pedestrians to be on a motorway in France…why are they allowing them.
I got a ban from Facebook for not sticking to community Standards…can someone tell me whats wrong with that statement…btw, i hope T.N. is not affiliated…lol.
Hurryup&wait:
It was said tongue in cheek and thus the double winkAs many of us are very aware of Robs aversion to self appointed public and driver’s who have The Old Bill on speed dial for regular use.
Ah ok silly me! Carry on
truckyboy:
I agree with Rob on this…my life is worth more to my family…than illegals or scrotes nicking my diesel or load…i feel for this driver and god bless him and his family…may he r.i.p.
Just to note…i also commented on facebook the following.
This driver was the second to die because of illegals…the French are useless, the British are useless…and how many more must die, because of those not doing their jobs, that we are paying £millions for them to do, its illegal for pedestrians to be on a motorway in France…why are they allowing them.I got a ban from Facebook for not sticking to community Standards…can someone tell me whats wrong with that statement…btw, i hope T.N. is not affiliated…lol.
How would you respond - if the “attacker” were not merely after your diesel?
poor Łukasz Urban might well have been told “do not resist if attacked” as well… There’s no “one-size fits all” correct advice, as it turns out.