discoman:
I never intended on ever getting an lgv licence… the reason it was 4 days was because I did an agency gig and was left to self manage it was job and knock… I had a full 7 days off from my perm job so tried it … I used the hours got home in 4 paid for 5 … I only used to use my licence if I needed to move trucks from my role prior to leaving the uk. Occasionally it would be when numpties were arrested and the vehicle was left on a hard shoulder or a driver was ill etc. however only used it once on duty. I am sorry, I chose not to be a truck driver … I still do 12.5 hr shifts everyday but I do 2 on 2 off due to the way my current employers work.
Yet you still feel qualified to comment on how bad you perceive it to be despite being a let’s pretend driver with no clue what it’s actually like.
Good, don’t want the job glorying up on the telly.
Employers are just coming to terms with the real driver shortage, yes i know some of you lot say there’s no shortage, but reliable people who take care and an interest are always in short supply, if this program had been a pro lorry propaganda exercise bigging the job up next thing there would be ads galore from the training broker mobs to lure starry eyed young hopefuls into the game just when the wages are looking up.
discoman:
I never intended on ever getting an lgv licence… the reason it was 4 days was because I did an agency gig and was left to self manage it was job and knock… I had a full 7 days off from my perm job so tried it … I used the hours got home in 4 paid for 5 … I only used to use my licence if I needed to move trucks from my role prior to leaving the uk. Occasionally it would be when numpties were arrested and the vehicle was left on a hard shoulder or a driver was ill etc. however only used it once on duty. I am sorry, I chose not to be a truck driver … I still do 12.5 hr shifts everyday but I do 2 on 2 off due to the way my current employers work.
Yet you still feel qualified to comment on how bad you perceive it to be despite being a let’s pretend driver with no clue what it’s actually like.
A.
How much extra do you get for being a ’ real ’ driver? Maybe he enjoys family life and simply sees a truck as a piece of work equipment, like any intelligent person would.
Or do you suggest he needs to earn a chest full of ’ Lorry hero driver ’ medals
discoman:
I never intended on ever getting an lgv licence… the reason it was 4 days was because I did an agency gig and was left to self manage it was job and knock… I had a full 7 days off from my perm job so tried it … I used the hours got home in 4 paid for 5 … I only used to use my licence if I needed to move trucks from my role prior to leaving the uk. Occasionally it would be when numpties were arrested and the vehicle was left on a hard shoulder or a driver was ill etc. however only used it once on duty. I am sorry, I chose not to be a truck driver … I still do 12.5 hr shifts everyday but I do 2 on 2 off due to the way my current employers work.
Yet you still feel qualified to comment on how bad you perceive it to be despite being a let’s pretend driver with no clue what it’s actually like.
A.
How much extra do you get for being a ’ real ’ driver? Maybe he enjoys family life and simply sees a truck as a piece of work equipment, like any intelligent person would.
Or do you suggest he needs to earn a chest full of ’ Lorry hero driver ’ medals
Maybe he does like family life, the point is he’s spouting off about how terrible tramping is desite having zero experience of it, the same as all pretend drivers do.
I get plenty extra for being a real driver, thanks for asking.
Ive tramped for 33 yrs.Been all over Europe,Scandinavia and into Ukraine.Still have 4 nights out a week.Total all the nights out Ive had up in tax free money and Ive had a free house and car.Must be daft to sleep in a truck eh?
discoman:
I never intended on ever getting an lgv licence… the reason it was 4 days was because I did an agency gig and was left to self manage it was job and knock… I had a full 7 days off from my perm job so tried it … I used the hours got home in 4 paid for 5 … I only used to use my licence if I needed to move trucks from my role prior to leaving the uk. Occasionally it would be when numpties were arrested and the vehicle was left on a hard shoulder or a driver was ill etc. however only used it once on duty. I am sorry, I chose not to be a truck driver … I still do 12.5 hr shifts everyday but I do 2 on 2 off due to the way my current employers work.
Yet you still feel qualified to comment on how bad you perceive it to be despite being a let’s pretend driver with no clue what it’s actually like.
A.
How much extra do you get for being a ’ real ’ driver? Maybe he enjoys family life and simply sees a truck as a piece of work equipment, like any intelligent person would.
Or do you suggest he needs to earn a chest full of ’ Lorry hero driver ’ medals
Maybe he does like family life, the point is he’s spouting off about how terrible tramping is desite having zero experience of it, the same as all pretend drivers do.
I get plenty extra for being a real driver, thanks for asking.
A.
Please explain to me what a real driver is!? Is your licence gold plated. I took a test just like you and passed. … I said I did 4 days tramping on agency. I never said it was a career. I prefer the work I do, I was merely pointing out what the younger driver sees, robroy graps the concept of my post. Tramping you either like or dislike, who knows when I retire from my job and return home to the UK. I might do part time driving to top up the pension. I call you a bitter driver whom has decided he thinks he’s above others. Pretty sad view of life
discoman:
I never intended on ever getting an lgv licence… the reason it was 4 days was because I did an agency gig and was left to self manage it was job and knock… I had a full 7 days off from my perm job so tried it … I used the hours got home in 4 paid for 5 … I only used to use my licence if I needed to move trucks from my role prior to leaving the uk. Occasionally it would be when numpties were arrested and the vehicle was left on a hard shoulder or a driver was ill etc. however only used it once on duty. I am sorry, I chose not to be a truck driver … I still do 12.5 hr shifts everyday but I do 2 on 2 off due to the way my current employers work.
Yet you still feel qualified to comment on how bad you perceive it to be despite being a let’s pretend driver with no clue what it’s actually like.
A.
How much extra do you get for being a ’ real ’ driver? Maybe he enjoys family life and simply sees a truck as a piece of work equipment, like any intelligent person would.
Or do you suggest he needs to earn a chest full of ’ Lorry hero driver ’ medals
To be fair, he has a DCPC, that makes him special. When I was a child I always used to love going out with my dad who was a truck driver. I think that’s why when my then employer offered to pay for my licence I took it. However, reality is different from a child’s reality.
discoman:
Please explain to me what a real driver is!? Is your licence gold plated. I took a test just like you and passed. … I said I did 4 days tramping on agency. I never said it was a career. I prefer the work I do, I was merely pointing out what the younger driver sees, robroy graps the concept of my post. Tramping you either like or dislike, who knows when I retire from my job and return home to the UK. I might do part time driving to top up the pension. I call you a bitter driver whom has decided he thinks he’s above others. Pretty sad view of life
See the post directly above yours, but you’ve done 4 days as agency, so you obviously know much more about tramping and how bad it is.
It doesn’t need to be a career, you need to have actually done the job before you start spouting off cliches like you did. You’re exactly the same as every plastic driver, think they know what they’re talking about when it comes to driving lorries and feel qualified to comment on being away when you’ve never done it.
discoman:
Please explain to me what a real driver is!? Is your licence gold plated. I took a test just like you and passed. … I said I did 4 days tramping on agency. I never said it was a career. I prefer the work I do, I was merely pointing out what the younger driver sees, robroy graps the concept of my post. Tramping you either like or dislike, who knows when I retire from my job and return home to the UK. I might do part time driving to top up the pension. I call you a bitter driver whom has decided he thinks he’s above others. Pretty sad view of life
See the post directly above yours, but you’ve done 4 days as agency, so you obviously know much more about tramping and how bad it is.
It doesn’t need to be a career, you need to have actually done the job before you start spouting off cliches like you did. You’re exactly the same as every plastic driver, think they know what they’re talking about when it comes to driving lorries and feel qualified to comment on being away when you’ve never done it.
A.
I have done quite a few day shifts on days off when there were bans on overtime… I have held a truck licence since 2004… I know how to drive a truck … just because you have done it since uncle Albert was in the war doesn’t make you more qualified than others, it says you have more miles under your belt … I know exactly how to drive a truck and I am considering you took issue because you have a crap job and others decided driving is not for them. Dude get a grip your coming across as a bitter old man … hope you weren’t the fella in the truck with the glasses nearly crying everytime he spoke. but, you are entitled to your opinion.
discoman:
I have done quite a few day shifts on days off when there were bans on overtime… I have held a truck licence since 2004… I know how to drive a truck … just because you have done it since uncle Albert was in the war doesn’t make you more qualified than others, it says you have more miles under your belt … I know exactly how to drive a truck and I am considering you took issue because you have a crap job and others decided driving is not for them. Dude get a grip your coming across as a bitter old man … hope you weren’t the fella in the truck with the glasses nearly crying everytime he spoke. but, you are entitled to your opinion.
I agree that there really are a lot of members on here who are really quite delusional about the job and their own standing in general. Some are so opinionated that the mere suggestion that you may have some experience of something that they haven’t or that they insist they know more about HGV than yourself simply because they feel more qualified. Here is the truth of the matter, a lorry driver drives a lorry. You can do it for years and you may think that it qualifies you as a better driver than someone else, it doesn’t. It could mean you have been doing it for years wrong. You could have picked up bad habits, you may become bitter and twisted and overate yourself. Driving a lorry is not a hard job to do, only tanker drivers can really say they are better than most.
spoonman777:
Ive tramped for 33 yrs.Been all over Europe,Scandinavia and into Ukraine.Still have 4 nights out a week.Total all the nights out Ive had up in tax free money and Ive had a free house and car.Must be daft to sleep in a truck eh?
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Aggree with the above, I do 2-4 nights out a week my choice now, after having spent 10 years full on out all week, company aggred to my changes not a problem,
My night out money is put aside and pays for our holidays, 3 weeks this year in a villa wit a pool and hire car, plus all our other holiday expenses.
Tramping nights out are what you make of them,
I’ve. Been paid to drive round the countryside here there and all points between, meet different people, what other job gives you that.
discoman:
Please explain to me what a real driver is!? Is your licence gold plated. I took a test just like you and passed. … I said I did 4 days tramping on agency. I never said it was a career. I prefer the work I do, I was merely pointing out what the younger driver sees, robroy graps the concept of my post. Tramping you either like or dislike, who knows when I retire from my job and return home to the UK. I might do part time driving to top up the pension. I call you a bitter driver whom has decided he thinks he’s above others. Pretty sad view of life
See the post directly above yours, but you’ve done 4 days as agency, so you obviously know much more about tramping and how bad it is.
It doesn’t need to be a career, you need to have actually done the job before you start spouting off cliches like you did. You’re exactly the same as every plastic driver, think they know what they’re talking about when it comes to driving lorries and feel qualified to comment on being away when you’ve never done it.
A.
I have done quite a few day shifts on days off when there were bans on overtime… I have held a truck licence since 2004… I know how to drive a truck … just because you have done it since uncle Albert was in the war doesn’t make you more qualified than others, it says you have more miles under your belt … I know exactly how to drive a truck and I am considering you took issue because you have a crap job and others decided driving is not for them. Dude get a grip your coming across as a bitter old man … hope you weren’t the fella in the truck with the glasses nearly crying everytime he spoke. but, you are entitled to your opinion.
You’re completely missing the point, you like to spout off about how terrible you think tramping is despite having never done it. You run the same tired old cliches despite having no experience of any of that. Why?
Why do you think you should comment on things you have no experience of?
I know, just a typical wannabe driver with no clue of what the real job entails.
Money wise, lorry driving isn’t really registering on most career choice radars. I certainly would not like to do it for the money. I like it out of a lifestyle choice. To me it is adventurous and freedom. I enjoy it and when I stop enjoying it I will stop driving. It doesn’t give me financial freedom. I would advise anyone who asked to look at another career for money but highly recommend tramping for a change of life if that is what your after. Everyone has different reasons that tramp but I am sure everyone will agree it is not really for the money. Night out money is not part of the wages nor should it form any part of it.
UKtramp:
only tanker drivers can really say they are better than most.
Ignoring the generalisation…, how tf do you come to that conclusion?.
So if you take an adr course and do tanker training it suddenly elevates you to the elite in terms of driver quality.?
I have seen many tanker drivers do bloody stupid things, just like the rest of us.
Maybe they were all clinically depressed because they were at lymm.
I dont like the place for many reasons.
Including those stupid wooden cowboys AND the chris Kristofferson look alike on the tat shop.
discoman:
No matter how you dress it up. You are away from home all week, living in a tin box, doing twice as many hours as a normal Job. Unpaid security sleeping in a layby when an employer refuses to not pay for parking. Tells young lad that’s the life … any sane person would walk away from the low paid job.
discoman:
Sorry mate, not intending to offend any trampers, I asked before. I got an insight to why people do it etc.
I did try it for 4 days hated it, however enjoyed the views when I did do it… the point is sadly, things like these would make dipper Dave go limp.
discoman:
I never intended on ever getting an lgv licence… the reason it was 4 days was because I did an agency gig and was left to self manage it was job and knock… I had a full 7 days off from my perm job so tried it … I used the hours got home in 4 paid for 5 … I only used to use my licence if I needed to move trucks from my role prior to leaving the uk. Occasionally it would be when numpties were arrested and the vehicle was left on a hard shoulder or a driver was ill etc. however only used it once on duty. I am sorry, I chose not to be a truck driver … I still do 12.5 hr shifts everyday but I do 2 on 2 off due to the way my current employers work.
After only 4 days, doing a job you didn’t want to do in the first place, you feel qualified to condemn it out of hand. I think it’s very arrogant for somebody with so little experience to condemn a job, really you can say no more than it didn’t suit you, instead of coming up with the same old cliches.
It took me at least a month from starting my first driving job before I started to feel comfortable and actually enjoy enough of the job to make the bad bits seem worth it. I remember thinking about handing in my notice several times in those first weeks, but then things started to fall into place a bit.
I did stop full-time driving for a while to go to college and then try another career, but always drove part-time, I really didn’t like office work of my new career choice, despite the 35 hour week. I worked in an office for far longer than you tried tramping, but even so I don’t feel qualified to condemn it completely, it worked for many people as some had been there for over 20 years and I’m not so arrogant as to condemn their choice because it wasn’t for me.
I assume from you description of why you got a licence and about overtime bans, you got the licence in something like the Police.
discoman:
No matter how you dress it up. You are away from home all week, living in a tin box, doing twice as many hours as a normal Job. Unpaid security sleeping in a layby when an employer refuses to not pay for parking. Tells young lad that’s the life … any sane person would walk away from the low paid job.
discoman:
Sorry mate, not intending to offend any trampers, I asked before. I got an insight to why people do it etc.
I did try it for 4 days hated it, however enjoyed the views when I did do it… the point is sadly, things like these would make dipper Dave go limp.
discoman:
I never intended on ever getting an lgv licence… the reason it was 4 days was because I did an agency gig and was left to self manage it was job and knock… I had a full 7 days off from my perm job so tried it … I used the hours got home in 4 paid for 5 … I only used to use my licence if I needed to move trucks from my role prior to leaving the uk. Occasionally it would be when numpties were arrested and the vehicle was left on a hard shoulder or a driver was ill etc. however only used it once on duty. I am sorry, I chose not to be a truck driver … I still do 12.5 hr shifts everyday but I do 2 on 2 off due to the way my current employers work.
After only 4 days, doing a job you didn’t want to do in the first place, you feel qualified to condemn it out of hand. I think it’s very arrogant for somebody with so little experience to condemn a job, really you can say no more than it didn’t suit you, instead of coming up with the same old cliches.
It took me at least a month from starting my first driving job before I started to feel comfortable and actually enjoy enough of the job to make the bad bits seem worth it. I remember thinking about handing in my notice several times in those first weeks, but then things started to fall into place a bit.
I did stop full-time driving for a while to go to college and then try another career, but always drove part-time, I really didn’t like office work of my new career choice, despite the 35 hour week. I worked in an office for far longer than you tried tramping, but even so I don’t feel qualified to condemn it completely, it worked for many people as some had been there for over 20 years and I’m not so arrogant as to condemn their choice because it wasn’t for me.
I assume from you description of why you got a licence and about overtime bans, you got the licence in something like the Police.
I was in a full paid job, I was not going to give a career up to be a truck driver. The met police funded my licence … and I did the driving in my odd days off … I’m sorry, but truck driving is a low skilled job … I have no issues with people who do it but I would rather not drive a truck where mainly fat over weight fella … who don’t wash stink of sweat etc … its a job younger people. Don’t want to do … yes, the countryside is lovely. But in 15 years time when the kids grow up they will say where was I etc. I currently work for nsw police … I do 2 12 hour shifts followed by 2 off that’s my roster… and I earn the same for 36 hours the majority earn for 60/70 … excluding the 55$ a day penalties etc. the point is … it took me 4 days to know it wasn’t for me it doesn’t take a month … good on the trampers if it’s there chosen path. … I have every right to voice an opinion … you lot slag us cops of yet most have not got a clue what we do.
discoman:
No matter how you dress it up. You are away from home all week, living in a tin box, doing twice as many hours as a normal Job. Unpaid security sleeping in a layby when an employer refuses to not pay for parking. Tells young lad that’s the life … any sane person would walk away from the low paid job.
discoman:
Sorry mate, not intending to offend any trampers, I asked before. I got an insight to why people do it etc.
I did try it for 4 days hated it, however enjoyed the views when I did do it… the point is sadly, things like these would make dipper Dave go limp.
discoman:
I never intended on ever getting an lgv licence… the reason it was 4 days was because I did an agency gig and was left to self manage it was job and knock… I had a full 7 days off from my perm job so tried it … I used the hours got home in 4 paid for 5 … I only used to use my licence if I needed to move trucks from my role prior to leaving the uk. Occasionally it would be when numpties were arrested and the vehicle was left on a hard shoulder or a driver was ill etc. however only used it once on duty. I am sorry, I chose not to be a truck driver … I still do 12.5 hr shifts everyday but I do 2 on 2 off due to the way my current employers work.
After only 4 days, doing a job you didn’t want to do in the first place, you feel qualified to condemn it out of hand. I think it’s very arrogant for somebody with so little experience to condemn a job, really you can say no more than it didn’t suit you, instead of coming up with the same old cliches.
It took me at least a month from starting my first driving job before I started to feel comfortable and actually enjoy enough of the job to make the bad bits seem worth it. I remember thinking about handing in my notice several times in those first weeks, but then things started to fall into place a bit.
I did stop full-time driving for a while to go to college and then try another career, but always drove part-time, I really didn’t like office work of my new career choice, despite the 35 hour week. I worked in an office for far longer than you tried tramping, but even so I don’t feel qualified to condemn it completely, it worked for many people as some had been there for over 20 years and I’m not so arrogant as to condemn their choice because it wasn’t for me.
I assume from you description of why you got a licence and about overtime bans, you got the licence in something like the Police.
I was in a full paid job, I was not going to give a career up to be a truck driver. The met police funded my licence … and I did the driving in my odd days off … I’m sorry, but truck driving is a low skilled job … I have no issues with people who do it but I would rather not drive a truck where mainly fat over weight fella … who don’t wash stink of sweat etc … its a job younger people. Don’t want to do … yes, the countryside is lovely. But in 15 years time when the kids grow up they will say where was I etc. I currently work for nsw police … I do 2 12 hour shifts followed by 2 off that’s my roster… and I earn the same for 36 hours the majority earn for 60/70 … excluding the 55$ a day penalties etc. the point is … it took me 4 days to know it wasn’t for me it doesn’t take a month … good on the trampers if it’s there chosen path. … I have every right to voice an opinion … you lot slag us cops of yet most have not got a clue what we do.
I never said or implied that you should have given up your full-time work to be a truck driver, I just said you can’t condemn a job after only 4 days. I also didn’t say you should have given it a month, just it took me a month.
I have never tried to make out the truck driving was anything special, but I do enjoy the work I do, however I don’t expect everybody to feel the same.
I’ve known many members of the Police Service in my time and they complained about not being able to organise a home life, working shifts or getting involved with something that means they didn’t get home when they were supposed to, missing school events, children being in bed before they get home, strain on relationships because of the demands of the job.
Many were looking for a way out of the Police, I worked with a former senior detective, he said he became a truck driver as a quick way out of the job which he’d grown to despise, others found more conventional ways of getting out of the Police or left and took up the same job as a civilian, some looked for jobs in Police forces in other Countries. And I don’t slag off the Police, but I agree I have only a vague idea of the job.
Most of what you’ve written is completely irrelevant to your previous posts, you have made one relevant point.
That is, It took you 4 days to work out it wasn’t for you.
UKtramp:
only tanker drivers can really say they are better than most.
Ignoring the generalisation…, how tf do you come to that conclusion?.
So if you take an adr course and do tanker training it suddenly elevates you to the elite in terms of driver quality.?
I have seen many tanker drivers do bloody stupid things, just like the rest of us.
Absolutely correct RobRoy.
I feel qualified to comment because I have driven hazardous tanks and am every bit as bad now as before.
Maybe he enjoys family life and simply sees a truck as a piece of work equipment, like any intelligent person would.
but, you are entitled to your opinion.