Harry please don’t keep us in suspence 
is it because your too old, 
or the wagon has shrunk, 
or you have got too bloody faaaaa
Norman Ingram:
Harry please don’t keep us in suspence
hiya,
Too old Norm and thankfully unlicenced or I might have been daft enough to have been still doing a bit.
thanks harry, long retired.
Look 'ere,I’m quite prepared to go as “mate” with “H” and I don’t care how long it takes me to get the 'owd lad up behind the steering wheel,wee’er on 11 hours gauranteed and 23 MPH,once I get him settled we’ll be off down the road at a steady 35MPH,"where we loaded for “H”,Royal Docks eh!Whens it “closing”,Thursday? Oh! bags of time,Jacks Hill at Towcester Wednesday night then into the Smoke handy on Thursday morning,re-loading at Tates in Silvertown for Blackburn on Friday morning,will we make it up The Hollies Friday night “H” ? Anyway I’m gonna get my head down on the bonnet,give me a “knock” when we stop for breakfast,and no “rope end” you sadistic old ■■■■■■■ !! Cheers Dennis.
Bewick:
Look 'ere,I’m quite prepared to go as “mate” with “H” and I don’t care how long it takes me to get the 'owd lad up behind the steering wheel,wee’er on 11 hours gauranteed and 23 MPH,once I get him settled we’ll be off down the road at a steady 35MPH,"where we loaded for “H”,Royal Docks eh!Whens it “closing”,Thursday? Oh! bags of time,Jacks Hill at Towcester Wednesday night then into the Smoke handy on Thursday morning,re-loading at Tates in Silvertown for Blackburn on Friday morning,will we make it up The Hollies Friday night “H” ? Anyway I’m gonna get my head down on the bonnet,give me a “knock” when we stop for breakfast,and no “rope end” you sadistic old [zb] !!
hiya,
.
thanks harry, long retired.
Dennis it don’t make any difference to Harry, he is commited to drivng his armchair with a whisky in his hand, and no mr policeman to book him.
harry_gill:
Lawrence Dunbar:
0Heres one for Harry, But somehow I don’t think he was the one that polished it Eh, Regards Larry.hiya,
Larry driven a “marra” to this and with a drawbar attached, couldn’t get in the cab now.
thanks harry, long retired.
Oi, never say never, I’m well stricken in years and Arthur Ritis but I managed to climb all the way up into one of those new fangled Volvo thingys a few weeks ago, it was scary being all that way up but I did it AND got down again, much to the amusement of my portly son and all his mates at Crossroads, taking the pi*s out of a poor old lorry driver.
grumpy old man:
harry_gill:
Lawrence Dunbar:
0Heres one for Harry, But somehow I don’t think he was the one that polished it Eh, Regards Larry.hiya,
Larry driven a “marra” to this and with a drawbar attached, couldn’t get in the cab now.
thanks harry, long retired.Oi, never say never, I’m well stricken in years and Arthur Ritis but I managed to climb all the way up into one of those new fangled Volvo thingys a few weeks ago, it was scary being all that way up but I did it AND got down again, much to the amusement of my portly son and all his mates at Crossroads, taking the pi*s out of a poor old lorry driver.
hiya,
Brian, give the mickey takers an eight legger and drawbar, get em’ to load it
fully with handball, rope and sheet it deliver it to somewhere tight unload it
and then see if they feel like taking the ■■■■ that’s after backloading it again
with another load of handball, not much forklift in those days, if they could
manage you can bet they’d be ready for the digs, no sleeper cabs.
thanks harry, long retired.
harry_gill:
grumpy old man:
harry_gill:
Lawrence Dunbar:
0Heres one for Harry, But somehow I don’t think he was the one that polished it Eh, Regards Larry.hiya,
Larry driven a “marra” to this and with a drawbar attached, couldn’t get in the cab now.
thanks harry, long retired.Oi, never say never, I’m well stricken in years and Arthur Ritis but I managed to climb all the way up into one of those new fangled Volvo thingys a few weeks ago, it was scary being all that way up but I did it AND got down again, much to the amusement of my portly son and all his mates at Crossroads, taking the pi*s out of a poor old lorry driver.
hiya,
Brian, give the mickey takers an eight legger and drawbar, get em’ to load it
fully with handball, rope and sheet it deliver it to somewhere tight unload it
and then see if they feel like taking the ■■■■ that’s after backloading it again
with another load of handball, not much forklift in those days, if they could
manage you can bet they’d be ready for the digs, no sleeper cabs.
thanks harry, long retired.
I could recommend Georgie Brays up Liverpool Rd. Islington. 
It came as no surprise when that dump burnt down.
grumpy old man:
harry_gill:
grumpy old man:
harry_gill:
Lawrence Dunbar:
0Heres one for Harry, But somehow I don’t think he was the one that polished it Eh, Regards Larry.hiya,
Larry driven a “marra” to this and with a drawbar attached, couldn’t get in the cab now.
thanks harry, long retired.Oi, never say never, I’m well stricken in years and Arthur Ritis but I managed to climb all the way up into one of those new fangled Volvo thingys a few weeks ago, it was scary being all that way up but I did it AND got down again, much to the amusement of my portly son and all his mates at Crossroads, taking the pi*s out of a poor old lorry driver.
hiya,
Brian, give the mickey takers an eight legger and drawbar, get em’ to load it
fully with handball, rope and sheet it deliver it to somewhere tight unload it
and then see if they feel like taking the ■■■■ that’s after backloading it again
with another load of handball, not much forklift in those days, if they could
manage you can bet they’d be ready for the digs, no sleeper cabs.
thanks harry, long retired.I could recommend Georgie Brays up Liverpool Rd. Islington.
It came as no surprise when that dump burnt down.
Here is the one for them to try and match your skills with Harry.Let them have a go with this one.
Cheers Dave.
hiya,
Dave, I think it would take more than half an hour to become competent at
handling one of these old girls, but practice makes perfect and they’ve got
to start somewhere, a drop of power steering would help a bit but this lass
isn’t blessed with that luxury.
thanks harry, long retired.
harry_gill:
hiya,
Dave, I think it would take more than half an hour to become competent at
handling one of these old girls, but practice makes perfect and they’ve got
to start somewhere, a drop of power steering would help a bit but this lass
isn’t blessed with that luxury.
thanks harry, long retired.
I could have handled it without the power steering years ago Harry,but mastering the drag would take a lot of practice.I have reversed a four wheeled dray behind a farm tractor which was much harder than a two wheeled trailer.
Reversing the drag with that eight legger must have been a work of art.
Cheers Dave.
Well in my young days on the wagon & drags I never ever saw anyone reversing the trailer into delivery points, I suppose there might have been some drivers that could master the art, But I very much doubt it, I was taught to drop the trailer and hook up at the front & nose it in, & Sometimes it was pushed about by hand if there was plenty of pushers handy, Happy Days long gone , Regards Larry.
Lawrence Dunbar:
Well in my young days on the wagon & drags I never ever saw anyone reversing the trailer into delivery points, I suppose there might have been some drivers that could master the art, But I very much doubt it, I was taught to drop the trailer and hook up at the front & nose it in, & Sometimes it was pushed about by hand if there was plenty of pushers handy, Happy Days long gone , Regards Larry.
I have seen the hay & straw lorries nose a drag trailer around hooked to the front of the wagon Larry.I suppose most places wouldn’t have had the room to even think of trying to reverse one.
Cheers Dave.
Dave the Renegade:
Lawrence Dunbar:
Well in my young days on the wagon & drags I never ever saw anyone reversing the trailer into delivery points, I suppose there might have been some drivers that could master the art, But I very much doubt it, I was taught to drop the trailer and hook up at the front & nose it in, & Sometimes it was pushed about by hand if there was plenty of pushers handy, Happy Days long gone , Regards Larry.I have seen the hay & straw lorries nose a drag trailer around hooked to the front of the wagon Larry.I suppose most places wouldn’t have had the room to even think of trying to reverse one.
Cheers Dave.
Well nothing has changed in to-days operations I live near a trading estate where artics deliver all the time, I feel sorry for the drivers , The unloading bays were designed for 4 Wheelers, Plus if a haulier wanted to operate from these such premises, They would be turned down because of the access problems, But that’s the way it is to-day, I don’t envy these drivers that do multi drop shop deliveries, They earn there wages the hard way in my old book, & Probabley underpaid for what they do, Regards Larry.
Lawrence Dunbar:
Dave the Renegade:
Lawrence Dunbar:
Well in my young days on the wagon & drags I never ever saw anyone reversing the trailer into delivery points, I suppose there might have been some drivers that could master the art, But I very much doubt it, I was taught to drop the trailer and hook up at the front & nose it in, & Sometimes it was pushed about by hand if there was plenty of pushers handy, Happy Days long gone , Regards Larry.I have seen the hay & straw lorries nose a drag trailer around hooked to the front of the wagon Larry.I suppose most places wouldn’t have had the room to even think of trying to reverse one.
Cheers Dave.Well nothing has changed in to-days operations I live near a trading estate where artics deliver all the time, I feel sorry for the drivers , The unloading bays were designed for 4 Wheelers, Plus if a haulier wanted to operate from these such premises, They would be turned down because of the access problems, But that’s the way it is to-day, I don’t envy these drivers that do multi drop shop deliveries, They earn there wages the hard way in my old book, & Probabley underpaid for what they do, Regards Larry.
Quite agree with the shop delivery job Larry.I watch them in Weobley delivering to the Costcutter store there.Its tight to park and then they have to get use a manual fork lift with a tail lift to unload off a six wheeler.Looks harder than handballing to me.Also the fact that shoppers are coming and going its a wonder anyone sticks that job for long.
Cheers Dave.
Dave the Renegade:
Lawrence Dunbar:
Well in my young days on the wagon & drags I never ever saw anyone reversing the trailer into delivery points, I suppose there might have been some drivers that could master the art, But I very much doubt it, I was taught to drop the trailer and hook up at the front & nose it in, & Sometimes it was pushed about by hand if there was plenty of pushers handy, Happy Days long gone , Regards Larry.I have seen the hay & straw lorries nose a drag trailer around hooked to the front of the wagon Larry.I suppose most places wouldn’t have had the room to even think of trying to reverse one.
Cheers Dave.
hiya,
There was always the odd place where reversing was going to be a no-no but for the
most part I managed to get them in but you must remember it was usually planned
where you took these things it was when getting return loads that the fun and games
could start when the cry was usually “we’ve had bigger than that in here drive” and it
could be a bit of a problem when using café car parks when getting parked for the night
and the parker-upper wanted a ■■■ paper’s width between wagons usually in the dark
and when in a downpour.
thanks harry, long retired.
Hi Harry, I got lumbered with a wagon and drag for quite a few years and it was all multi drop around London, it did have a front hitch but I never used it as I found it more aggro than just reversing it. It wasn’t long before I could get it in places where an artic wouldn’t go.
When I went on holiday they used the wagon but the trailer was normally in the same spot I had left it.
p.s. this was in later days than yourself and I had the benefit of power steering !
Aye Trev but did the drag have a turntable, Or Was it an A frame, ■■?< Regards Larry.
Lawrence Dunbar:
Aye Trev but did the drag have a turntable, Or Was it an A frame, ■■?< Regards Larry.
Both Larry ! it had an A frame the front axle steered on a turn table, it wasn’t one of these caravan type things they have today, those are kids play !
Dave the Renegade:
harry_gill:
hiya,
Dave, I think it would take more than half an hour to become competent at
handling one of these old girls, but practice makes perfect and they’ve got
to start somewhere, a drop of power steering would help a bit but this lass
isn’t blessed with that luxury.
thanks harry, long retired.I could have handled it without the power steering years ago Harry,but mastering the drag would take a lot of practice.I have reversed a four wheeled dray behind a farm tractor which was much harder than a two wheeled trailer.
Reversing the drag with that eight legger must have been a work of art.
Cheers Dave.
When I was just a lad, just starting, I used to watch the shunters at Harrisons Dewsbury, shoving the drag in to tight spots with the nose bar. 8 leg AEC MM, and drag, both piled high with bales of rags, and the old lads could shove em in to within an inch of where they were required. Sheer skill. They let me have a go…once…utter complete failure. “Ger out o’ bloody thing, we’re going to be here all day” 