bald bloke:
The deadline day will come and go and we won’t notice any difference what so ever.
Correct answer
Why would anyone give up working just because they have to pay £50 a year even if retired and only working part time it’s still worth doing.
It depends on how much you want to do it. Remember that drivers over 65 already have the increased financial burden of a yearly medical and licence renewal; now they’re being asked to spend a day in a classroom listening to someone telling them how to do a job they’ve been doing for forty years. There will also doubtless be those who saw this coming and simply haven’t bothered so they’ve done no DCPC at all and consequently would spend five days just catching up even if they wanted to.
I predict that many of those guys will simply retire altogether or take a part-time van driving job or similar. Most that I know do it simply for a bit of pocket money and to get them out from under the wife’s feet for a couple of days a week. I know of three guys in the next village alone who are calling it a day, they all did a couple of shifts a week on milk or livestock collection. As is always the case rural businesses will suffer the most.
I also predict that one of the hardest hit sectors will be school bus drivers; at my missus’s firm two are finishing this week, both are well over retirement age and somehow they’ve got to be replaced. It’s the ideal job for someone retired, couple of hours in the morning, do your chores at home and mow the lawn, quick nap then back in for the afternoon run. That sort of job is no good to most of us, or working mums for that matter if they’ve got pre-school kids because the childcare costs more than the wage.
Was dreading going past the VOSA place off the M4 Bath junction today, fully expecting it to be rammed with officers pulling people in to check for CPC cards, but not a single one. Went past about 9.30am and again at about 11.30am.
Cannot understand why drivers are expecting to be stopped needlessly .
I would expect them to be as professional and ask for the card as a matter of routine .
They are probably having the last laugh as they have seemed to put anguish into drivers heads.
Did they stop all bus drivers last year.
Sidevalve:
. Remember that drivers over 65 already have the increased financial burden of a yearly medical and licence renewal; now they’re being asked to spend a day in a classroom listening to someone telling them how to do a job they’ve been doing for forty years.
Judging by what I’ve seen some of them needed to be told how to do the job a long time ago.
109LWB:
Was dreading going past the VOSA place off the M4 Bath junction today, fully expecting it to be rammed with officers pulling people in to check for CPC cards, but not a single one. Went past about 9.30am and again at about 11.30am.
Why would they be when the grandfather rights expire at midnight tonight?
Winseer:
I think we’d all like to see rates go up and “on the bid” rather than just a local negotiated thing, which of course is like walking on rice paper.
Once the new higher rates are bid by one and all, they become the new “going rate” and we’ll have it for keeps - instead of ‘just the next 3 months and that’s it’.
You talk some [zb] you really do. Too many thick [zb] that are happy to do 85hrs sleeping in a tin box for £500 and they’d be the ones doing the “bidding”. You might be happy with a 50% pay cut but I won’t be.
You clearly have no understanding of English, Me, or any market - let alone a job’s market.
Anyone that’s actually read my posts over the past couple of years will know that I’ve been banging on against 85 hours, measly wages, and pay cuts.
Even your response above seems not to relate to my post above it in any way.
It looks like your just ranting again, because you don’t find yourself on the same hymnsheet as me on anything
even when you fail to understand what hymnsheet it is I’m actually singing from!
Fair enough. That’s your right to disagree with me. But you won’t slag me off for it all the time.
If you’re unable to come up with a constructive argument against me in future posts, then try adopting some online remarks against some illiterate body of bigots, guardianistas, or crooks that troll
around these boards baiting those like yourself. They’ll probably be more appreciative of the attention that comes from your bile than I am.
I understood what you wrote just fine. You want a bidding war by drivers to decide the “going rate”. Only a thick ■■■■ would consider such a thing a good idea but like the rest of the thick ■■■■■ they’d all be happy with £500 week and a Topliner and that would become the going rate which, oddly enough, is exactly what it is now for the vast majority.
That’s what it was when I came to the market just over 3 years ago. The only jobs available on agency at that time were odd shifts,
and full weeks at palletliner type firms that will have you working 5x12-15 hour shifts for a measly £500pw.
I protested about it straight away, and refused to work beyond thursday as a result of having done 3x15 hours monday-wednesday on a monday-friday booking originally.
I was duly shown the door, and the yard duly got reported to VOSA - not that I ever heard something got done about that.
NOW though - things do seem to be getting better by this point 3 years later. - Except for those shrinking number of drivers who
have decided that “the status quo was worth putting up with, and winseer is a ■■■■■■ for objecting to it”.
Things get changed by protesting - as Scotland has found. If you shut up, and sit tight - nothing happens. Ever.
If you don’t like firebrands, union reps, or in your opinion - anyone else who mouths off and bangs on with sensible suggestions to be argued for debate
then argue against my argument
and not againt me personally trying to lay out one.
Too many thick [zb] that are happy to do 85hrs sleeping in a tin box for £500 and they’d be the ones doing the “bidding”. You might be happy with a 50% pay cut but I won’t be.