Turbovision:
Assuming that the course is not on DHL premises I would still turn up for it anyway. The chances are at such short notice DHL won’t have cancelled your place on it with the company running the courses. If your place really has been cancelled and the tutor queries payment you can always pay for it yourself there and then.
I think I can see DHL’s point (financially) but I think it is a bit off - them cancelling your course at a day’s notice when you have been decent enough to give a month’s notice.
Finally,and thats all i was getting at
Maybe they just put another driver in your place, I mean its not like DHL are a small firm with only a few employees
OP, sorry mate, but I agree with what (most) others have said, why would a company fork out to get your 7hrs dCPC when you’ve told them you’re leaving?
Winseer:
If the firm didn’t have anything in place for “re-compensating them should you leave within a certain period”, then you’d have to be daft to go BEFORE you’ve finished your 35 hours…
…Then there’s firms like Morrisons who want you to actually have the full 35 hour credit before you apply to work there.
They’d rather have a “6 points only” bod with a full card than Mr Clean Licence who’s yet to start his - despite the fact that they have not put their own drivers through DCPC fully yet.
Well, perhaps time will tell… **A single smack-up will easily exceed the cost of putting a single newbie driver through 35 hours in-house.**I guess these “accountant” mistakes will continue to be made by those that make the decisions - because they know they won’t be for the high jump if and should anything go wrong with what sounds like a daft pen-pushing bean-counter policy.
Why is it assumed that someone with ‘upto 6 points’ is going to have a smash up??
In this industry, it’s a relief to keep a clean licence, but we’ve all let it run a little down a hill, on a dual or a single carriageway that we know, and if there’s a copper there waiting for us, we’re getting points - doesn’t mean we were dangerous at the time.
I’ve got a clean licence, and I really do think it’s a miracle rather than it making me a superior driver.
Not only pay for the dcpc course as its dhl they also pay the drivers basic day wages aswell. Hire in a agency driver to cover etc. Op you’re onto plums if any employer would fork that out for an employee leaving within 4weeks.
I’ve done 3 of these CPC days so far with another one coming up soon.
There is usually around a dozen or so in the class but each time I attended there has been one or two that simply fail to turn up for whatever reason.
I get the impression that if they really wanted anyone could just walk in of the street and take the course so long as they have their licence with them and the have a debit/credit card to pay for that session.
From my firm the boss, is putting around fifteen ( variable) of us through the course split across two different sessions. I think he has lost at least four of these through those leaving for other jobs and one permanently laid off of sick. He does not seem to be put off by that. The boss seems to be such a benevolent sort of guy that he regards the CPC course as one of the drivers’ perks. Just yesterday one of the drivers who left him after two of the CPC sessions dropped in for a chat and the boss was pleased enough to see him again. Actually our boss has a fairly good record of getting previous drivers back again after they have found the grass wasn’t always greener at the other firms they went to.
By the time the CPC card becomes law next year I guess most haulage will have had some turnover of drivers. I guess if they are too strict in choosing which of their drivers ‘deserves’ to go on the course then there might be a serious shortage of qualified drivers next year.
quork:
Well there you go,gave my 4 weeks notice to leave today,3 years,no time off-no disciplinaries-done everything asked of me-no accidents and what do they tell me when i get back off a 13.45hr day…that cpc you was on tomorrow is now cancelled as your leaving us, what a bunch of !£"$%^ers.
Oh well looks like ill have to fork out for it meself,
Sad to hear sympathies good luck hope you get another job soon another example of the reality of being in the haulage industry like previously said in this topic just a number and a commodity in the eyes of the employer.
Dont forget you have been there three years so you should be entitled to some redundancy money if so wont be much if over age of 41 at least a week and half pay for year you been there.
May seem an obvious question but may be making enquires withregards what the criteria was been used to determine how you where selected for redundancy and was their any alternative methods ie redeployment or voluntary unfortunately looks like they went for a last in first out system but nothing to be lost asking.
quork:
Well there you go,gave my 4 weeks notice to leave today,3 years,no time off-no disciplinaries-done everything asked of me-no accidents and what do they tell me when i get back off a 13.45hr day…that cpc you was on tomorrow is now cancelled as your leaving us, what a bunch of !£"$%^ers.
Oh well looks like ill have to fork out for it meself,
Sad to hear sympathies good luck hope you get another job soon another example of the reality of being in the haulage industry like previously said in this topic just a number and a commodity in the eyes of the employer.
Dont forget you have been there three years so you should be entitled to some redundancy money if so wont be much if over age of 41 at least a week and half pay for year you been there.
May seem an obvious question but may be making enquires withregards what the criteria was been used to determine how you where selected for redundancy and was their any alternative methods ie redeployment or voluntary unfortunately looks like they went for a last in first out system but nothing to be lost asking.
Think you need to re-read the op chap, he gave them notice of quitting not the other way round
stevieboy308:
i don’t get your beef, common sense on their part i’d say and depending on the terms, not so on your part. if there wasn’t anything about paying it back if you leave before x, why not wait until after the dcpc to give notice.
My bad,i stupidley thought i would still be on it,thinking about it i should of waited and gave 2 weeks notice after completing dcpc
What does this mean? I’ve seen this a few times recently…think I must be getting old
quork:
Well there you go,gave my 4 weeks notice to leave today,3 years,no time off-no disciplinaries-done everything asked of me-no accidents and what do they tell me when i get back off a 13.45hr day…that cpc you was on tomorrow is now cancelled as your leaving us, what a bunch of !£"$%^ers.
Oh well looks like ill have to fork out for it meself,
I think there is a difference, the fact that you gave 4 weeks notice, but DHL cancelled your course within a day, the former is probably contractual the latter probably isn’t.
stevieboy308:
i don’t get your beef, common sense on their part i’d say and depending on the terms, not so on your part. if there wasn’t anything about paying it back if you leave before x, why not wait until after the dcpc to give notice.
My bad,i stupidley thought i would still be on it,thinking about it i should of waited and gave 2 weeks notice after completing dcpc
What does this mean? I’ve seen this a few times recently…think I must be getting old
My bad is American slang for ‘sorry old chap, I made a mistake, I’ll hold my hands up to it, no harm done though eh?’
waynedl:
OP, sorry mate, but I agree with what (most) others have said, why would a company fork out to get your 7hrs dCPC when you’ve told them you’re leaving?
Winseer:
If the firm didn’t have anything in place for “re-compensating them should you leave within a certain period”, then you’d have to be daft to go BEFORE you’ve finished your 35 hours…
…Then there’s firms like Morrisons who want you to actually have the full 35 hour credit before you apply to work there.
They’d rather have a “6 points only” bod with a full card than Mr Clean Licence who’s yet to start his - despite the fact that they have not put their own drivers through DCPC fully yet.
Well, perhaps time will tell… **A single smack-up will easily exceed the cost of putting a single newbie driver through 35 hours in-house.**I guess these “accountant” mistakes will continue to be made by those that make the decisions - because they know they won’t be for the high jump if and should anything go wrong with what sounds like a daft pen-pushing bean-counter policy.
Why is it assumed that someone with ‘upto 6 points’ is going to have a smash up??
In this industry, it’s a relief to keep a clean licence, but we’ve all let it run a little down a hill, on a dual or a single carriageway that we know, and if there’s a copper there waiting for us, we’re getting points - doesn’t mean we were dangerous at the time.
I’ve got a clean licence, and I really do think it’s a miracle rather than it making me a superior driver.
This sounds like the “We’re only Steering wheel Attendants” argument somehow. Sure, there are other criteria in passing a face-to-face interview, but the others (does the interviewer like who he’s looking at) seem rather shallow compared to the straight “Qualifications, Experience, Safety Record” instant assessment. If they did it the textbook way I’m saying, there wouldn’t be a need for “unpaid assessments” all the time either, thus we’d all benefit. The old “Face fits” argument stinks, it alway has. “Blue Eyed Boy” syndrome they used to call it at Royal Mail where the guys who played golf with the managers got all the spare plum runs out over muggins like me who might be perma-available, but passed over, and stuck on indoor work in my early days after first getting my licence.
To be fair, I dont go on holiday, and only once gone sick with a knee I couldnt walk on…
Im physically made to use my holidays before I lose them by the office…
To be fair, I dont go on holiday, and only once gone sick with a knee I couldnt walk on…
Im physically made to use my holidays before I lose them by the office…
quork:
Well there you go,gave my 4 weeks notice to leave today,3 years,no time off-no disciplinaries-done everything asked of me-no accidents and what do they tell me when i get back off a 13.45hr day…that cpc you was on tomorrow is now cancelled as your leaving us, what a bunch of !£"$%^ers.
Oh well looks like ill have to fork out for it meself,
idiot!!!
no time off.
What no hoildays or no sickie
I’d take “no time off” to mean no unscheduled time off, I don’t think having no days off on the sick makes someone an idiot.
