TESCO job what a joke

Mate you’re a clown. No wonder you get on with nobody anywhere :unamused:

It’s not about inflating holiday pay, it’s about making sure you’re getting paid the same as what you get when in work for being off work. It’s really as simple as that.

Ergo if you tootle along happily on basic hours that’s what you’ll get on holiday, or if you like overtime and do the hours you don’t get penalised with a flat basic week for having a week off, or two weeks off or three weeks off like I normally take.

You get paid an amount representing what you normally do, whatever that may be.

Honestly i can’t see why youre struggling with this. Prefer what you want, the law says that is how it is and it also says your 12.07% rolled up payment is actually illegal.

It would be better to receive a decent basic for the 47 weeks a year one is not on holiday, rather than pump overtime all the time, and then celebrate because you get an uplift on the 5 weeks per year you ARE on holiday.

Smoke and Mirrors, Creative Accouting.

With job security now down the pan, even with the most unionized workforces - there’s no reason whatsoever that everyone shouldn’t be pushing for a better deal right now.

Yesterdays “Good Deals” were essentially a turd with sugar sprinkled on the top.

But like anything - if you don’t ask, you don’t get - if you don’t want - you CAN’T get.

I give up.

Winseer:

LazyDriver:
I think the maths goes something like 48hrx48wks /12.07/9.6=20
48hrx48wks/12.07/12=16
Then you add the EIGHT bank holidays.

New Year’s Day,
Good Friday
Easter Monday
May Day
Whit Monday
August Bank Holiday
and…
and…

I don’t ever recall getting a premium payment or bank holiday credit for things like “Queen’s Birthday”, or “Shrove Tuesday” etc.
If anything, there are more firms now that won’t even pay a premium for working Good Friday, and won’t let you work some of the other bank holidays, as the workplace actually shuts down across the longer bank holiday weekends in any case…

Don’t know what religion you practice, but in the UK Christmas day & St. Stephens day (boxing day) are national, bank holidays. You may need to apply to your previous employers for back pay… :stuck_out_tongue:

I won’t quote anything, coz the quotes are getting messy. But, I agree with Winseer that, nowadays agency seem to get a better deal when it comes to holidays, on the proviso that you can get work when you want it.
Both employed & agency get average holiday pay, but agency have the ability to increase the number of hours available to them as holiday. Although, this can be argued that, if you wish to receive holiday pay at the same amount as what you earn on a working week youll need to take more hours as holiday during a week off.
Incidentally, holiday hours count towards your wtd total, so taking holiday does not reduce your hours burden in your 17/26 wk, 48hr average.

Not everyone can be trunking / tri changes for Tesco , there must be loads doing shop deliveries with the rubbish to pick up & the rsu to visit , all those pulling the loaded cages around to fit on the rubbish cages you have to fit on your 5/6 express store multi drop
Or the d/d full of 7o cages of beer / pop , tins etc ti tip on that Un-level dock leveler at Lincoln
3 x 8 hrs sounds ok , but the rest of the job is crap .

dozy:
Not everyone can be trunking / tri changes for Tesco , there must be loads doing shop deliveries with the rubbish to pick up & the rsu to visit , all those pulling the loaded cages around to fit on the rubbish cages you have to fit on your 5/6 express store multi drop
Or the d/d full of 7o cages of beer / pop , tins etc ti tip on that Un-level dock leveler at Lincoln
3 x 8 hrs sounds ok , but the rest of the job is crap .

It’s the easiest job I’ve ever had, I don’t work out of a fresh DC but do agree constantly moving cages around is a pain in the backside, but there’s no rush & you defo won’t be getting 5-6 drops very often, it’s been years since I last had 5 stores on a trailer.

I’ll help out at a store if they’re decent staff on backdoor but I’m not about to help out if their decker bay is knackered & makes it hard work, it’s the backdoor mans job to take the cages from the back of the trailer, so if he’s happy to not get the decker bay fixed, let him suffer the consequences of it. I’ve refused to tip on a damaged bay in the past & would do again.

If I remember rightly, you work for stobarts, not too sure of your job when it comes to tipping at stores but it must be the same as tesco drivers, surely?

selby newcomer:

dozy:
Not everyone can be trunking / tri changes for Tesco , there must be loads doing shop deliveries with the rubbish to pick up & the rsu to visit , all those pulling the loaded cages around to fit on the rubbish cages you have to fit on your 5/6 express store multi drop
Or the d/d full of 7o cages of beer / pop , tins etc ti tip on that Un-level dock leveler at Lincoln
3 x 8 hrs sounds ok , but the rest of the job is crap .

It’s the easiest job I’ve ever had, I don’t work out of a fresh DC but do agree constantly moving cages around is a pain in the backside, but there’s no rush & you defo won’t be getting 5-6 drops very often, it’s been years since I last had 5 stores on a trailer.

I’ll help out at a store if they’re decent staff on backdoor but I’m not about to help out if their decker bay is knackered & makes it hard work, it’s the backdoor mans job to take the cages from the back of the trailer, so if he’s happy to not get the decker bay fixed, let him suffer the consequences of it. I’ve refused to tip on a damaged bay in the past & would do again.

If I remember rightly, you work for stobarts, not too sure of your job when it comes to tipping at stores but it must be the same as tesco drivers, surely?

I did work for stobarts but not for 3 years , though did do a couple of years on lp
Haven’t done Tesco other than the odd day for must be 5 yrs + as they didn’t want us doing it as it apparently didn’t pay , if you tipped goole they’d pull you out and send you to Wakefield / sherburn etc for a load rather than do a delivery out of there / donny

It’s only three days a week and some people don’t mind doing weekends anyway.

Why the outrage? Is tesco forcing anyone to take that job?

LazyDriver:

Winseer:

LazyDriver:
I think the maths goes something like 48hrx48wks /12.07/9.6=20
48hrx48wks/12.07/12=16
Then you add the EIGHT bank holidays.

New Year’s Day,
Good Friday
Easter Monday
May Day
Whit Monday
August Bank Holiday
and…
and…

I don’t ever recall getting a premium payment or bank holiday credit for things like “Queen’s Birthday”, or “Shrove Tuesday” etc.
If anything, there are more firms now that won’t even pay a premium for working Good Friday, and won’t let you work some of the other bank holidays, as the workplace actually shuts down across the longer bank holiday weekends in any case…

Don’t know what religion you practice, but in the UK Christmas day & St. Stephens day (boxing day) are national, bank holidays. You may need to apply to your previous employers for back pay… :stuck_out_tongue:

I have not been paid to take Christmas Day off since 2009. (I’ve never worked Christmas day, but usually don’t get paid a credit - that day off, without using up a day’s holiday to take it)
I have not been paid extra to work Boxing day since 2008. (Extra over what I’d get for working a Sunday, eg. Time and a half plus a day off in lieu or double time…)

I’ve not been paid sick pay since 2005. That is, when in actual hospital, I was on zero pay. There was an occasion where I got “paid through” for taking ill, being taken to casualty, there three hours, and then returning to work to complete the same shift - BUT I wouldn’t have been paid at all had I actually gone home after being cleared at Hospital.

I prefer the accrued holiday calculated as a pot from 12.06% from gross pay. It is easily the fairest and best system ever for working out holiday entitlements, in terms of pure cash, rather than “time off”, which is all-too-often open to re-interpretation at every turn.

I appreciate that others work styles that might create the illusion of being better off on other systems, just as there are people who think they are better off on Umbrella, Self-Employed, or working Earlies rather than Nights, Monday-Friday instead of Tramping, or “Part Time Driving” with warehouse work making up the bulk of their daily duties for the wage they get paid. Each to their own, I guess…

RogerOut:
It’s only three days a week and some people don’t mind doing weekends anyway.

The pay for a 3-day week would make this an excellent opportunity - if it were not for the weekend premium already being built into it. :frowning:

People want to clear £500 per week for as few hours as possible. If it takes 5, then people will work five. If it takes 4, then that’s better. If it can be done in THREE - then we might finally be getting somewhere with the old “Work/Life Balance” issues. It is fair to say that “Any five from seven” being the only way to achieve a “Bottom Line of £500” - then I’d suggest that people delve a bit deeper into the actual pay structure of job ads. The big thing that lets This ad down - is that the quoted wage is clearly nowhere near £500 per week. It is alas, “Pro Rata”. When you DO see £500+ per week in the ad itself, then invariably the HOURS then don’t get mentioned… £500 per week take-home (£740 gross) for 36 hours - is a good deal Anything more? - Probably not. To take home £500 per week for 40 hours, you’d need to be grossing around £16-£18 per hour AND be paid for your breaks… Tax and insurance combined - knocks a full third off most people’s wages, don’t forget.

Royal Mail too - are also advertizing full-time directly employed contracts for 36 hours over 3 shifts… BUT they are looking to recruit young, fresh drivers with no more than six points on licence, rather than old hands, ex-hands, or people like me with zero points on their licence that had no idea how unpopular we were…

If RM management think going out of their way to recruit Boy Racers (like the knobend RM driver from Ditton that rear-ended me in 2014) whilst knocking back someone anyone who’s held a spotless licence for 30 years is “A good idea”, then I suggest RM high command need to check their management structure for where the financial leaks in that business are occuring. :unamused:

Any new contract is hardly going to be better than any old contract. It is all about dressing it up to make it look better, when close scrutiny will uncover otherwise…

The Discounters meanwhile, have got around this issue by making “Non-Driving Duties” a major part of the driver’s job there.

Each firm has it’s different structure in place then, that you might really like, or absolutely despise.

I have no desire to ever top-line £1000 per week - if that means stupid O clock starts, 5-6-5-6 working months, putting up with constant backbiting at the workplace, or anything else likely to shorten my life.
Come April 2022, I would imagine a large number of other workers - will wake up and smell the coffee, realize that there’s no point trying to push the boat out, only to lose all your extra efforts in “higher taxation” - and will once again, turn the gaze upon one’s belly button, and consider the working life balance argument. FFS Most of my colleages out there, “average age 55” etc. - must have less money worries than their younger counterparts, these days… Saying a driver MUST work 60-84 hour weeks because they have huge overheads, sounds like the explotation that takes place in the ■■■ industry, where the very best ladies are enouraged to develop a drug habit that then requires earnings much higher to feed - but overall, leaves them no better off…

NO one has to be addicted to “Overtime”, “Long Hours”, “Crappy Conditions”, and total lack of respect in the workplace, where drivers all-too-often get talked AT rather than “To”.

Winseer:

LazyDriver:

Winseer:

LazyDriver:
I think the maths goes something like 48hrx48wks /12.07/9.6=20
48hrx48wks/12.07/12=16
Then you add the EIGHT bank holidays.

New Year’s Day,
Good Friday
Easter Monday
May Day
Whit Monday
August Bank Holiday
and…
and…

I don’t ever recall getting a premium payment or bank holiday credit for things like “Queen’s Birthday”, or “Shrove Tuesday” etc.
If anything, there are more firms now that won’t even pay a premium for working Good Friday, and won’t let you work some of the other bank holidays, as the workplace actually shuts down across the longer bank holiday weekends in any case…

Don’t know what religion you practice, but in the UK Christmas day & St. Stephens day (boxing day) are national, bank holidays. You may need to apply to your previous employers for back pay… :stuck_out_tongue:

I have not been paid to take Christmas Day off since 2009. (I’ve never worked Christmas day, but usually don’t get paid a credit - that day off, without using up a day’s holiday to take it)
I have not been paid extra to work Boxing day since 2008. (Extra over what I’d get for working a Sunday, eg. Time and a half plus a day off in lieu or double time…)

I’ve not been paid sick pay since 2005. That is, when in actual hospital, I was on zero pay. There was an occasion where I got “paid through” for taking ill, being taken to casualty, there three hours, and then returning to work to complete the same shift - BUT I wouldn’t have been paid at all had I actually gone home after being cleared at Hospital.

I prefer the accrued holiday calculated as a pot from 12.06% from gross pay. It is easily the fairest and best system ever for working out holiday entitlements, in terms of pure cash, rather than “time off”, which is all-too-often open to re-interpretation at every turn.

I appreciate that others work styles that might create the illusion of being better off on other systems, just as there are people who think they are better off on Umbrella, Self-Employed, or working Earlies rather than Nights, Monday-Friday instead of Tramping, or “Part Time Driving” with warehouse work making up the bulk of their daily duties for the wage they get paid. Each to their own, I guess…

The fact that you have or have not being paid doesn’t diminish the fact that 25/26th December (or the next working days) are bank holidays. There are 8 bank holidays in the UK. The legal minimum holiday entitlement for employed workers is 28 days. (5.6wks, 5wks 3 days or however else you want to call it) made up of 20 days +8 statutory days. That being said, I’m with you on the accrued 12.07% of hours worked and an average hourly rate for holidays. I would also say that paid holidays can’t be taken until they are accrued.