It strikes me all these people demanding governments and businesses must do something, don’t realise they have the power to do something, consumer power is king in our society, so buy less stuff, especially stuff that has to come half way round the World or even Europe and travel less and choose your mode of travel carefully.
If this became a thing governments and businesses would have to adapt or go under.
alamcculloch:
There was talk years ago about using the wind again for ships. They could have a huge sail a bit like a traction kite to help pull them along. It wont replace the engine but reduce the amount of work that it has to do so reducing the amount of fuel used.
There are some very efficient sailing ships, using computer technology to set the sails, the biggest problem is the sails need masts, masts prevent as much cargo being loaded, cheaper crossings, half the revenue, need two ships at twice the price.
Unless 
alamcculloch:
There was talk years ago about using the wind again for ships. They could have a huge sail a bit like a traction kite to help pull them along. It wont replace the engine but reduce the amount of work that it has to do so reducing the amount of fuel used.
I think it’s Viking Line sailing out of Estonia that has a set up like that…
It the Viking Grace vikingline.com/the-group/vi … otor-sail/
Roymondo:
dieseldog999:
most ships run at optimum cruising speed for fuel efficiency anyway do they not?
all they will do is take twice as long and pump out twice as much pollution.
grotty thunderbags will be pishing her knickers at that thought…In a word - “No”.
For details of the assumptions made, you’ll have to read the report on the study as linked in the BBC article. In essence though, fuel used (and thus, pollution generated) is in proportion to the cube of the speed - i.e. double the speed and the fuel burned (and resultant pollution) increases by about 8 times. Using their assumptions, a speed reduction of 10% would require 27% less fuel to maintain that speed. The time taken would of course be roughly 10% longer, so the theoretical reduction in fuel used (and pollution generated) is around 19%.
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il take your word for that.
i lost interest halfway down the 2nd line of your reply…zzzzzzzzzzzz 
How slow can ships go safely against tides, winds etc. If looking on marine traffic etc the ships seem to be doing between 8&12 knots.
Ahhh, must be true as that wholly reliable bbc news outlet has posted it, hang on a minute… not the same bbc that delivered a live broadcast on 9/11 stating building 7 had now fallen?.. whilst building 7 still stood in the background! Or is it the same news outlet that is shepherding the masses into a new found love of saving the planet from climate change… whilst refusing to report on the climate ship trapped in unprecedented ice in Antarctica!!.. lmao, yes that very reliable source of information!!! 1/10 for effort though!
dbk23:
Ahhh, must be true as that wholly reliable bbc news outlet has posted it, hang on a minute… not the same bbc that delivered a live broadcast on 9/11 stating building 7 had now fallen?.. whilst building 7 still stood in the background! Or is it the same news outlet that is shepherding the masses into a new found love of saving the planet from climate change… whilst refusing to report on the climate ship trapped in unprecedented ice in Antarctica!!.. lmao, yes that very reliable source of information!!! 1/10 for effort though!
Bang on the nail.BBC ,the propaganda wing of the Tavistock Institute.A pox on both their houses. 