del949:
just wondered, if you go on a speed awareness course, is that the end of it?
Or does it go on your record and do you have to declare it later, new job -insurance etc
According to the blurb, it goes onto a special database that records who’s taken the speed awaremess option, its accessable only to other Police forces, after 7 years it will be deleted.
I don’t suppose it counts towards the driver cpc 
Happy Keith. Did you feel you gained anything from the “on road” section of the course?
Big Joe, by the time you saw him & braked, he would long since have had your speed recorded. I think to get offered a SA course at 49mph in a 40 whilst driving vocationally, you are VERY lucky!
Tofer wrote:
As long as you can show a calibration certificate for the tacho then the chart should be able to be used to prove your speed. At the end of the day it is an official and legal record of the vehicles movements as it were.
But unfortunately there is no way to prove that the tacho clock was set accurately at the time of alleged offence. Therefor, inadmissable.
Driveroneuk:
‘… Happy Keith. Did you feel you gained anything from the “on road” section of the course? …’
Having definitely learned stuff to my - & hence society’s benefit (blah) - I sense that the courses are tailored for groups according to the region in which the offence occurred and also the type of ‘misdemeanour’, ie, speeding or red-light jumping, rage, etc.
The assumption that my course had an ‘on road’ aspect somewhat supports this idea, since unless I slept through it, we did not have one and it seemlessly melted into one presentation: Put it this way, it was all classroom. Meanwhile, all those on my 4 hr, £60, Suffolk course were ‘done’ for doing 36 mph in a 30 zone, doing anything more than 36 mph would apparently have been a straight fine & points affair. Meanwhile, my woman’s course in Buckinghamshire (£74 in 2007) had miscreants caught doing between 36-38 mph in a 30 - was only two hours long.
Being told that course content & length depends on variables & the region in which one gets caught - we were also advised that North Wales regularly do and consistently have prosecuted (with points) at anything above 31 mph yet Cambridgeshire dibble don’t apparently bat an eyelid until 38 mph. Again, it depends on variables such as the predominant road types of that region (any motorway vs. rural vs. suburban deaths per million inhabitants, etc, etc), how much they deviate from average - which thence prioritises who they ping for a course/fine, etc. That said, the criteria is liable to alter overnight at the discretion of the Chief Constable of each patch.
The bottom line is either not to speed, be lucky (?) to get a Speed Awareness course opportunity or risk copping the Monopoly card, ie, ‘pay £200, collect some points & Go to Jail’ lark - which frankly teaches nothing & results in the arguable detriment of those concerned from the driver, other road users, society, etc. (The ‘system’ suggests that health aspects of everyone are lowered by simply fining everyone since nothing gets learned & bitterness ensues, etc).
Driveroneuk:
Did you feel you gained anything from the “on road” section of the course?
The speed awareness courses are usually classroom only
The driver improvement courses are classroom and on-road with the on-road bit having someone who is both advanced & ADI sitting next to the driver
In my neck of the woods SA courses have an on road section (or they did last i knew) where 3 attendees go out with one ADI. each taking a turn to drive.
When Lancashire first started these SA courses they wrote to me as an ADI asking if i would be interested in providing the on road part. I would have have been, but not at the paltry pay they were offering.
Driveroneuk:
Big Joe, by the time you saw him & braked, he would long since have had your speed recorded. I think to get offered a SA course at 49mph in a 40 whilst driving vocationally, you are VERY lucky!
Hi Driverone
In my original post I explained that he must have clocked me over two cars that were in front of me travelling in the same direction, I wondered can a reading from any device using a form of beam bounced off a vehicle to record its speed be considered accurate in those circumstances?
They sent out the driver info request within four days, but its taken them 18 days to reply with the offer of the SA course, and my suspicious mind thinks they might think or know the same, hence why its taken them so long to decide. and thats why I’ve been offered the SA course despite being an alleged 9mph over the limit.
Perhaps they think I’ll roll over and opt for the SA course rather than contest it, they’ll save face, and in the bargain it’ll be another job for the boys running the course 