Anyone know who this firm where? A welsh reg.with a load of coil.
pete 359:
Anyone know who this firm where? A welsh reg.with a load of coil.
Hi Andrew, yes Shelley’s transport were from the West Midlands, they had a yard in Gordon st. Wolverhampton. They ran quite a few Fodens and Commer 2 strokes all in green red and white livery, they lived in Bilston just a few yards away from where I grew up. A very nice family firm all the lorries would stop at the house on Friday night to collect their wages, when parked up at the yard they would all go to the pub for beer off the boss !
Brian Shelley ran till the late 80’s with a Scania 111, most of their lorries had a Staffs reg and I don’t remember that one with a Newport Mon. reg.
The photo by the way was taken in Monmore green Wolverhampton not far from their base and across the road from their local the New Inns.
Broadslide:
I don’t think the K series ever appeared in the Transcon as it was around a 19 litre capacity and a minimum of 400 +BHP! Happy to stand corrected. The ‘big engine’ was probably a reference to the intercooled version of the 14 litre std engine but producing a net installed power of 350 BHP, not bad for mid 70’s. Most of the early Transcons were 273 BHP or the lower power 240 BHP from the fast reving super 250 a 15 litre lump soon replaced by the downrated 273 engine at 240.
The 9 speed Eaton with direct drive top had a 3.7 diff while the 13 speed o/d box had .73 ratio and a 4.1 diff . The o/d unit was relatively easy to bolt onto the back of a 9 speed, which gave it quite a good top end, close to 90 mph iirc with 12x22.5.
Quite a few of the early transcons at BRS had the 14ltr 335 bhp American built engine, the same engine we had in Guy big j’s but at 290 bhp, we often had to wait weeks for parts from America for these pre big cam lumps.
Trev_H:
Broadslide:
I don’t think the K series ever appeared in the Transcon as it was around a 19 litre capacity and a minimum of 400 +BHP! Happy to stand corrected. The ‘big engine’ was probably a reference to the intercooled version of the 14 litre std engine but producing a net installed power of 350 BHP, not bad for mid 70’s. Most of the early Transcons were 273 BHP or the lower power 240 BHP from the fast reving super 250 a 15 litre lump soon replaced by the downrated 273 engine at 240.
The 9 speed Eaton with direct drive top had a 3.7 diff while the 13 speed o/d box had .73 ratio and a 4.1 diff . The o/d unit was relatively easy to bolt onto the back of a 9 speed, which gave it quite a good top end, close to 90 mph iirc with 12x22.5.Quite a few of the early transcons at BRS had the 14ltr 335 bhp American built engine, the same engine we had in Guy big j’s but at 290 bhp, we often had to wait weeks for parts from America for these pre big cam lumps.
Peter the workshop foreman says it had the H273 so I take it that it was 273 bhp. Is this a 14ltr ■■■■■■■ then, it’s just that I need to put a brief description by the picture in the book. As I’ve said he says their early ones had that engine in and later ones the 290, it’s doing me ed in, and I still can’t find the picture of the Maggie deutz 7.5 tonner in colour, arrrrrrrrrrrrr I’m off to find a buzz and not to go to town on, to jump underrrrrrrrrrrrrr 
hi all,
one for telekonsteve,you would have had this one last night,if i hadn’t fallen asleep.sorry steve.
pete 359:
hi all,
one for telekonsteve,you would have had this one last night,if i hadn’t fallen asleep.sorry steve.
Cheers Andrew, they all help, lucky I know info about this as that is Peter jones driving it, it was an ex demo apparently and according to Peter a pile of u know what, he says they didn’t keep it long 
but it’ll still go in the book. It’s the 7.5tonner I need a colour photo of 
. Pm me your address Andrew and I’ll send you a calendar if you want one, there is one left 
Telekonsteve:
pete 359:
hi all,
one for telekonsteve,you would have had this one last night,if i hadn’t fallen asleep.sorry steve.Cheers Andrew, they all help, lucky I know info about this as that is Peter jones driving it, it was an ex demo apparently and according to Peter a pile of u know what, he says they didn’t keep it long
hi steve,
thanks very much m8.pm sent.
regards andrew.
hi all,
this outfit was in the abbey (port talbot steelworks) earlier today.notice there is a merc.pulling it rowly 
regards andrew.
hi A ndrew that outfit is a strange set up I notice the merc thing as well is it true you went carrol singing and sang all I want for xmas is a scaniaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa regards rowly
rward:
hi A ndrew that outfit is a strange set up I notice the merc thing as well is it true you went carrol singing and sang all I want for xmas is a scaniaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa regards rowly
hiya,
Not if the end product might be one of the 80 series crap nowt less than a 110.
thanks harry, long retired.
now harry your being silly each to their own I had a 80 81 92 93 113 loved them all they were lorries I drove fo someone else and now I am the proud owner of a 143 and reached my dream of owning a lush 141 so yoy can see scaniaaaaaaaaas run through my blood regards rowly ps I wait for the flak
rward:
now harry your being silly each to their own I had a 80 81 92 93 113 loved them all they were lorries I drove fo someone else and now I am the proud owner of a 143 and reached my dream of owning a lush 141 so yoy can see scaniaaaaaaaaas run through my blood regards rowly ps I wait for the flak
hiya.
No flak Rowly but if I don’t like a thing I say so I know of lots of drivers who
thought the 80 series were rubbish grossly overrated and only rated at 26
tonnes on the Continent in my opinion they would have been an ideal motor
for pulling capacity loads or as a 6 wheeled rigid but as motor for pulling a
loaded 20 ton trailer they wouldn’t pull the skin off a rice pudding, quiet, a
radio you could hear and certainly quite comfortable but give me a motor
that can do the job anytime, I was a driver who never made the vehicle my
home, it was just a workhorse and the better it went the better I liked it,
do the job park the thing up until tomorrow. Oh’ I’m not knocking Scania’s it
is a known fact that I did a bit in a 110 and loved it now that was well able
to handle the Gross of the day as was the Atki with the 220 ■■■■■■■ that I
lost to become lumbered with a brand new 80.
thanks harry, long retired.
fair play to you harry you said your bit for me thr worst bit of crap I drove was a merc the transport manager said its got to bunks its brand new lot more room I soon swapped it with one of our other drivers for a 3 year old scania god I hated that thing now harry you have a lovely xmas and everybody else on here mr cooper sscaniaaaaaaa calendar on the way 2 you regards rowly
rward:
fair play to you harry you said your bit for me thr worst bit of crap I drove was a merc the transport manager said its got to bunks its brand new lot more room I soon swapped it with one of our other drivers for a 3 year old scania god I hated that thing now harry you have a lovely xmas and everybody else on here mr cooper sscaniaaaaaaa calendar on the way 2 you regards rowly
hiya,
Thank you Rowly at least we see eye to eye by the way the worst motor I ever
drove was a Volvo f88 cut down to a four wheeled unit from a six wheeler, it
had been worked to death on heavy haulage at my then employer Tayforth it
was a relic from when Siddle C Cook owned the yard the thing broke down at
every set of traffic lights. Thank you for the seasons greetings Rowly and may
I wish you the same I’ll do it in your native tongue NADOLIG LLAWEN and that
goes for everyone in your part of the world.
thanks harry, long retired.
pete 359:
Anyone know who this firm where? A welsh reg.with a load of coil.
look at the price of the petrol, and that was a gallon
pete 359:
Anyone know who this firm where? A welsh reg.with a load of coil.
£127 for a gallon!
pete 359:
Anyone know who this firm where? A welsh reg.with a load of coil.
Evening all, now there is an interesting picture…Trev H has given you the background…but how many operators do you know that have their yard, (Gordon Street, Blakenhall, Wolverhampton), consisting of a series of “reprofiled” gardens behind terraced victorian houses. Access, simple, just demolish part of the ground floor, form an arch, and hey presto you reverse straight through…good job those coilers were only 28ft…and in their day they seemed big! And the access did require “proper” drivers to get those S20 Foden outfits in without catching anything!
Shellys, as Trev says, were a lovely little outfit. They gained their initial traffic from Lysaghts at Bilston, who became an international company by relocating the bulk of their operation to Newport, which later became the core of the Orb Works, then of course Llanwern. Many of my relatives settled in the Newport area because of this move, and much of the lines at Llanwern, Port Talbot, and Ebbow Vale were the designs of my late father as Chief Engineer, Rolling Mill Division, of Wellman Smith and Owen of Darlaston.
Strong ties, the Black Country, and South Wales.
Cheerio for now.
Saviem:
pete 359:
Anyone know who this firm where? A welsh reg.with a load of coil.Evening all, now there is an interesting picture…Trev H has given you the background…but how many operators do you know that have their yard, (Gordon Street, Blakenhall, Wolverhampton), consisting of a series of “reprofiled” gardens behind terraced victorian houses. Access, simple, just demolish part of the ground floor, form an arch, and hey presto you reverse straight through…good job those coilers were only 28ft…and in their day they seemed big! And the access did require “proper” drivers to get those S20 Foden outfits in without catching anything!
Shellys, as Trev says, were a lovely little outfit. They gained their initial traffic from Lysaghts at Bilston, who became an international company by relocating the bulk of their operation to Newport, which later became the core of the Orb Works, then of course Llanwern. Many of my relatives settled in the Newport area because of this move, and much of the lines at Llanwern, Port Talbot, and Ebbow Vale were the designs of my late father as Chief Engineer, Rolling Mill Division, of Wellman Smith and Owen of Darlaston.
Strong ties, the Black Country, and South Wales.
Cheerio for now.
Hi Saviem, Interestering that your relatives settled in Newport, most of my family moved there from Wolverhampton in the 20’s for work, some branched out into dairy farming on the salt marshes, hence I delivered milk in that area as a kid. I still go to Whiston and Nash Point to visit.
On the milk round my first job was dropping milk off at Hazells haulage when they had a bungalow and a small yard on Pye corner !