clear answer is give class 1 license to people who purchase cornflakes on there 5th visit
or bring in cheap labour and pay them 2quid a hour yay lets do it
Maybe raising the weight limits from 44t to say 48t would make a small difference. Most modern trucks have a design weight of 50t anyway, the extra 4t would not increase fuel consumption that much anyway, especially if you limit the increase to vehicles with at least 500hp. With most vehicles at the moment having a 28-29t payload, increasing this to 33t would save every 7th journey. Trouble is not many trucks are running at capacity (Bulkers probably being the exception)
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Has anyone mentioned the cost for someone going from B to CE ? - about £4k !!
toowise:
Maybe raising the weight limits from 44t to say 48t would make a small difference. Most modern trucks have a design weight of 50t anyway, the extra 4t would not increase fuel consumption that much anyway, especially if you limit the increase to vehicles with at least 500hp. With most vehicles at the moment having a 28-29t payload, increasing this to 33t would save every 7th journey. Trouble is not many trucks are running at capacity (Bulkers probably being the exception)
i aint dropping down my tonnage for anyone
Carryfast:
Harry Monk:
virtually every EE driver who left was legally entitled to stay so it’s not a freedom of movement issue.Maybe Dozy should apply to drive a dustcart or a hiab wagon to leave a better job opportunity for any EE’s looking for something better and before any more of them decide to walk away.
I’m baffled as to why Dozy would want to engage in a wages Dutch auction with folk from countries where a four bedroomed detached house in two acres of land costs £40,000.
Ditch the DCPC, let drivers with out of date ADR licence to continue delivering fuel.
Decent pay for drivers, insurance companies lowering premiums for companies to allow inexperienced drivers to get a job.
Better conditions at truck parks and motorway services including discounts for drivers at these places.
Better overnight rates, and paid whether away from base or at base. Any night in a cab should be classed as a night out.
An industry standard minimum wage seeing as we are meant to be professionals.
edd1974:
obv theres a shortage of drivers. so what do you think the answer is?
wish i knewi reckon better pay and shorten the hours we can work
feel free to add your own thoughts
Yeah, it’s the hours/no sick pay (unlike the office staff because they are more important than us) and the job being seen as a given by the general (spoiled) public.
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THIS is not the answer.
Ask yourself if YOU were a foreign trucker
…Would you come over here for £9-£12ph now paying full taxes (IR35 crackdown) not going to get Universal Credit, because you start losing it @ around £500per MONTH mark…
…And even if you did come - wouldn’t you simply sign up with whatever agency is currently supplying poultry/supermarkets/butchers etc etc and get the same pay as everyone else who’s got a couple of brain cells to spare?
There’s no talk of any “Contractual Tie-in” neither.
Maybe they’ve offered a free UK passport after only six months rather than five years…
STILL - would you bother, if you can now get a job in your old country, get to hang out with mates that speak the same language in your own country, local women to date, lower cost of living, etc etc?
edd1974:
Or drive a truck for the same.houlry pay.And bosses know.they can get away with paying mimmum wage . Years ago they paid decent to attract people.
I’d much rather drive a truck!
Wheel Nut:
Everyone hates you, you are in their way when they go to work, you are in the way when people go on holiday, you are in their way when they drive Tarquin and Priscilla to separate schools in the 4x4.
Why do trucks overtake other trucks when it’s going to take 10 miles to get past?
they even complain when they have to wait at a fuel station while the tanker driver unloads.
That’s unnecessary, they used to be able to continue to use the forecourt. Health & Safety gone mad!
Motorway Services would rather have 3 coaches than 30 lorries.
That’s understandable they are not a charity, so how do we make trucks attractive to MSA’s? Charge more for parking? or facilities?
The public complain about the bin lorry in the street while they remove their rubbish from their home,
So what’s the answer?
stu675:
Wheel Nut:
Everyone hates you, you are in their way when they go to work, you are in the way when people go on holiday, you are in their way when they drive Tarquin and Priscilla to separate schools in the 4x4.Why do trucks overtake other trucks when it’s going to take 10 miles to get past?
they even complain when they have to wait at a fuel station while the tanker driver unloads.
That’s unnecessary, they used to be able to continue to use the forecourt. Health & Safety gone mad!
Motorway Services would rather have 3 coaches than 30 lorries.
That’s understandable they are not a charity, so how do we make trucks attractive to MSA’s? Charge more for parking? or facilities?
The public complain about the bin lorry in the street while they remove their rubbish from their home,
So what’s the answer?
The services are a necessary requirement for giving tired drivers somewhere to take a welcome break etc, if they were cheaper more people would use them, look at any of the things for sale, Walkers Grab Bags. Cigarettes. Canned drinks, Umbrellas, Shortbread. Gressingham Duck with smoked Eel wraps. The prices are 50% more expensive than the high street, even the burger shops are more expensive.
As for overtaking. I just knock the CC back a couple of notches and have a swig of Pepsi [emoji41]
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Wheel Nut:
The services are a necessary requirement for giving tired drivers somewhere to take a welcome break etc,
yes exactly, but who should pay for them? they are not a charity, so is it the Govt, because they enforce driver hrs? Or Truck operators?
As for overtaking. I just knock the CC back a couple of notches and have a swig of Pepsi [emoji41]
Sorry I don’t understand, do you mean you don’t overtake? or you let trucks overtake you?
Has adaptive CC been installed in any trucks yet?
Wheel Nut:
welcome break etc,
I like what you did there! [emoji41]
stu675:
Wheel Nut:
The services are a necessary requirement for giving tired drivers somewhere to take a welcome break etc,yes exactly, but who should pay for them? they are not a charity, so is it the Govt, because they enforce driver hrs? Or Truck operators?
As for overtaking. I just knock the CC back a couple of notches and have a swig of Pepsi [emoji41]
Sorry I don’t understand, do you mean you don’t overtake? or you let trucks overtake you?
Has adaptive CC been installed in any trucks yet?
I let them go. I guarantee they will be only a couple of vehicles in front of me when I turn off the motorway.
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The answer is simple - when there’s a shortage of something the market reacts by re-rationing said thing by adjusting the price accordingly. Sorry, the FREE market. So to me either the market is not free or there is no shortage or the shortage is so temporary and that’s obvious to the powers that run the market that they know they don’t have to bother to increase the pice.
It’s really simple, if you as a firm haven’t got enough drivers, then increase your T&C’s until you have.
This is what is already happening and is working.
Doing anything other that increasing T&C’s will have a negative impact on T&C’s so why are drivers trying to solve it in other ways?
Scrapping the dcpc is often mentioned for an example, so therefore adding to the pool of available drivers = wages go down, why would any current driver want that?