OVLOV JAY:
Whilst I’ve come across 1 or 2 arrogant newbies over the years, the most arrogance I’ve seen, has been displayed by the older generation of drivers. What some of them don’t realise, is that experience doesn’t always mean competence
I think Ovlov Jay has a point.Having passed my class 1 in 97 it took me a fair while to be confident regarding my reversing safe to say now a days I am not phased by much and am confident in my abilities.
I had not been driving long and was in Tesco’s at South Mimms when an equally inexperienced new driver came in and was really struggling to get his motor onto the bay. The ignorance of the so called old hands in the yard really surprised me as to a man they just all stood around and generally took the ■■■■. The fella was at his wits end but with the little knowledge I had I managed to talk him onto the bay for which he was eternally grateful.
Having been an apprentice when I was younger I was used to older fellas imparting their wisdom onto us youngsters as that was how we learned however the attitude of the so called experienced fellas in this instance just plain stunk I guess thats why the industry can never unite together for the common cause.
As I said there are tossers among older drivers also. That reminds me of the time when a foreign driver in a left ■■■■■■ was doing a blind side reverse, there was about 6 drivers (young and old) stood watching and generally taking the ■■■■, I walked past them, told them what I thought of them (as they walked away embarrassed) and watched the lad in. Drivers and ■■■■■■ screw drivers
I’ve been on the road a year and can honestly say in the two full time jobs I have had, I have been the youngest in the yard but have always listened to information given to me.
The place I’m at now all the drivers are over 50 and don’t use sat nav. So when I’m asking for some info on a place I take my map book. They help me out give me some tips then I’m able to set up my sat nav to the info they give me so I’m not always looking at my map.
Older drivers are the best ones to learn from “been there, done that”
I must admit from what I see on here the ‘younger/newbie’ generation should possibly think before posting online. too many seem to quick to just post a thread on what do I do if… and yes there are a good few who also come on giving advice to others whilst the ink is still wet on their licence (nothing wrong with it if given the correct way).
the main trouble with any form of written / typed comments is what I say as a joke may not be interpreted by other in the same way, words get twisted and misread very easily.
as for the ability to spell etc - cant see why a driver needs to punctuate on here at all. I have an A grade in English and I am possibly one of the worst on here for it.
war1974:
I must admit from what I see on here the ‘younger/newbie’ generation should possibly think before posting online. too many seem to quick to just post a thread on what do I do if… and yes there are a good few who also come on giving advice to others whilst the ink is still wet on their licence (nothing wrong with it if given the correct way).
the main trouble with any form of written / typed comments is what I say as a joke may not be interpreted by other in the same way, words get twisted and misread very easily.
as for the ability to spell etc - cant see why a driver needs to punctuate on here at all. I have an A grade in English and I am possibly one of the worst on here for it.
I don’t think spelling and punctuation is critical for this or any forum, but if you want to get your message across, making it readable to others can only help!
Well, as a relative newbie settling nicely into very varied general haulage, I have to say the help & support (and p*ss taking! ) I’ve had from other drivers (not only at my company) has been absolutely invaluable and very gratefully received - including from some people on here. I don’t respect a person because they’ve been a truck driver 30 years man & boy, I respect them for who they are.
There’s always going to be the ones - new & old - who think they’re the dog’s nads, personally I think complacency is very dodgy territory to be in.
I’ve met a few newbies since becoming a class 1 driver, and none of them seem to be cocky about it or know-it-alls
robroy:
I have nothing against new drivers (I was one myself once ) but why are the vast majority of them today such arrogant little sh…s.
After being in the job for more than 5 mins they suddenly think they know it all, not only that but that you know [zb] all. I have seen them come and I’ve helped them out with stuff, but after a few months they are trying to tell YOU stuff you learned 30 yrs ago… before some of them were born
A good example is on the ‘worst drivers out there’ thread. A guy who came on here a few months ago asking questions from experienced drivers on the Newbie forum after he had just passed his test, comes on said thread slagging off older drivers because they say they don’t need sat navs, or have done roping and sheeting or whatever. (No doubt he will come back on, and back pedal saying ‘I was joking’ .) but I have seen this a lot with young new drivers.
Don’t get me wrong, in real terms I really couldn’t give a flying one, it’s just a thread, and I just wondered if others had noticed these guy’s attitudes.
In my day …(yeh I know) …we had a lot of respect for older drivers, listened and learned a lot. You had to because unlike today you had to have more than a qualification of being a car driver to be able to drive a truck and you had to learn actual skills to do the job unlike today. Right, I’m starting to talk with my old [zb]’ s hat on now , so I’ll quit while I’m ahead
Know where your coming from …
Point In the right direction as to what’s done and how its done . that’s as far as i go now if they don’t wanna listen that’s their F48% up. I’ve gone past the head banging against the wall >
I’ve told you once in plane ENGLISH you didn’t Listen Tough ,
war1974:
I must admit from what I see on here the ‘younger/newbie’ generation should possibly think before posting online. too many seem to quick to just post a thread on what do I do if… and yes there are a good few who also come on giving advice to others whilst the ink is still wet on their licence (nothing wrong with it if given the correct way).
the main trouble with any form of written / typed comments is what I say as a joke may not be interpreted by other in the same way, words get twisted and misread very easily.
as for the ability to spell etc - cant see why a driver needs to punctuate on here at all. I have an A grade in English and I am possibly one of the worst on here for it.
m_attt:
It gets tedious. Especially that eagerbellend who has done exactly what you described in the first post. Started on agency and now knows it all and constanly slags them off in every post. Most have probably forgot more types of truck than hes driven.
Spot on !
How the British Haulage Industry has lasted so long without eagerbellwhiff’s encyclopedia like knowledge,is one of life’s great mystery’s !
Still we can all sleep soundly in our beds,safe in the knowledge that said Industry is in such capable hands.
He’s a shrieking ar$e apple of biblical proportions;which to be fair,is no mean feat.
Personally I think all this “old school driver” is a bit of an insecurity thing,when you actually break it down there is very little “knowledge” of trucking between someone that’s been driving 5 years as someone that’s been doing it for 35,and by that I mean relative knowledge that is actually of use in today’s world of trucking but it gives the oldies something to hang onto and make them feel important,but let’s not forget most of this 35 year old knowledge is completely useless nowadays ie when they start blabbing on about Eton twin splitters or having to double the clutch,but they still expect the newbies to sit crossed legged,wide eyed on the floor in front of them whilst they spout this ancient font of knowledge.
Suppose it gives them a sense of comfort.
ckm1981:
Personally I think all this “old school driver” is a bit of an insecurity thing,when you actually break it down there is very little “knowledge” of trucking between someone that’s been driving 5 years as someone that’s been doing it for 35,and by that I mean relative knowledge that is actually of use in today’s world of trucking but it gives the oldies something to hang onto and make them feel important,but let’s not forget most of this 35 year old knowledge is completely useless nowadays ie when they start blabbing on about Eton twin splitters or having to double the clutch,but they still expect the newbies to sit crossed legged,wide eyed on the floor in front of them whilst they spout this ancient font of knowledge.
Suppose it gives them a sense of comfort.
You’re way off there bud, totally secure and very comfortable thanks
But hey, thanks for the concern,… even if it does come across as a tad insecure in it’s self.
think its also a younger generation thing, they all think they know pretty much everything nowadays ( see you tube with these little pricks quoting laws to police etc. ) why would they be any different once they have a hgv licence.
) I’ve had from other drivers (not only at my company) has been absolutely invaluable and very gratefully received - including from some people on here. I don’t respect a person because they’ve been a truck driver 30 years man & boy, I respect them for who they are.
and you had to learn actual skills to do the job unlike today. Right, I’m starting to talk with my old [zb]’ s hat on now 
