Small, family companies Vs logistics providing behemoths

Nite Owl:
So, job hunting came to a satisfactory conclusion and I’ll be handing my notice in today. Found the place quite by accident, I saw his trucks in a quiet little yard and popped in to ask the question. He grabbed a set of keys, told me to hook up that trailer and take him for a spin, which I did. We had a little natter on the way round and we seemed to like what each other said so when he offered me the job, I accepted.

So, I’ll be going from a (relatively small contract) large logistics provider to a small family run haulage firm. And I’m looking forward to it already! Being able to speak to the gaffer, non of these bullshine formal procedures yet everything still being done by the book, common sense day to day running. The list is endless. The next two weeks are going to drag by because I cant wait. Proper old school trucking.

Anyway, no real point to this post. Just wanted to tell someone.

So you went and did this all on your own then ? You didn’t ask on here what we thought but just went ahead and took the intuitive. Well done Nite Owl, I hope it works out for you mate.

Tude:

Bigtruck3:

Nite Owl:
So, job hunting came to a satisfactory conclusion and I’ll be handing my notice in today. Found the place quite by accident, I saw his trucks in a quiet little yard and popped in to ask the question. He grabbed a set of keys, told me to hook up that trailer and take him for a spin, which I did. We had a little natter on the way round and we seemed to like what each other said so when he offered me the job, I accepted.

So, I’ll be going from a (relatively small contract) large logistics provider to a small family run haulage firm. And I’m looking forward to it already! Being able to speak to the gaffer, non of these bullshine formal procedures yet everything still being done by the book, common sense day to day running. The list is endless. The next two weeks are going to drag by because I cant wait. Proper old school trucking.

Anyway, no real point to this post. Just wanted to tell someone.

The difference is if you get sick they will drop you like a ton of bricks you will be scraping the bottom of the barrel
It’s a no brainer work for a company that provides benefits trust me it can be a life saver

Not all of us need our lives saving, some of us make our own contingency and thus have no need to depend upon others, we usually drive older cars and don`t need the latest tech and are not deemed to be consumers :wink:

Brave words are you another fridge man who has money and only does the job for entertainment
Living in the past i call it don’t like change or keeping up, sounds like a miserable old git

Harry Monk:
The golden rule is large or small, drive for a company where transport is not the core business.

All you need to know about modern transport in one sentence.

Nite Owl:
So, job hunting came to a satisfactory conclusion and I’ll be handing my notice in today. Found the place quite by accident, I saw his trucks in a quiet little yard and popped in to ask the question. He grabbed a set of keys, told me to hook up that trailer and take him for a spin, which I did. We had a little natter on the way round and we seemed to like what each other said so when he offered me the job, I accepted.

So, I’ll be going from a (relatively small contract) large logistics provider to a small family run haulage firm. And I’m looking forward to it already! Being able to speak to the gaffer, non of these bullshine formal procedures yet everything still being done by the book, common sense day to day running. The list is endless. The next two weeks are going to drag by because I cant wait. Proper old school trucking.

Anyway, no real point to this post. Just wanted to tell someone.

All said and done I hope it works out for you.

We all find our little niche one mans poison blah blah blah.

Some like to bang up and down the motorways opening the doors and backing on to a bay, day in day out, others like the un known or the bit between the two.

I would rather s*** into my hands and clap before I did some of the work many drivers on here do, its all a means to an end if yo like what you do then all the better.

Bigtruck3:

Tude:

Bigtruck3:

Nite Owl:
So, job hunting came to a satisfactory conclusion and I’ll be handing my notice in today. Found the place quite by accident, I saw his trucks in a quiet little yard and popped in to ask the question. He grabbed a set of keys, told me to hook up that trailer and take him for a spin, which I did. We had a little natter on the way round and we seemed to like what each other said so when he offered me the job, I accepted.

So, I’ll be going from a (relatively small contract) large logistics provider to a small family run haulage firm. And I’m looking forward to it already! Being able to speak to the gaffer, non of these bullshine formal procedures yet everything still being done by the book, common sense day to day running. The list is endless. The next two weeks are going to drag by because I cant wait. Proper old school trucking.

Anyway, no real point to this post. Just wanted to tell someone.

The difference is if you get sick they will drop you like a ton of bricks you will be scraping the bottom of the barrel
It’s a no brainer work for a company that provides benefits trust me it can be a life saver

Not all of us need our lives saving, some of us make our own contingency and thus have no need to depend upon others, we usually drive older cars and don`t need the latest tech and are not deemed to be consumers :wink:

Brave words are you another fridge man who has money and only does the job for entertainment
Living in the past i call it don’t like change or keeping up, sounds like a miserable old git

So many answers and such little time…Suffice to say I have another house in another country that I am going to retire to in September, so change is required, as the UK is so boring with the majority populace being good consumers and wanting all the bling…I prefer to be a part of community and to learn new skills and languages and engage in new cultures whenever I can…I have lived and worked, married in the USA, worked in many places in Europe and travelled extensively in my pursuit of change and education, learning.

I am a miserable old git though, I have worked for it, I am having it and ain`t nobody taking it away from me :laughing:

Big mistake, they will work you to the limit if a job needs doing they don’t have back up it’s you
They might give you a token at Christmas but that’s it you get sick or problems at home your on your own they can be very nice on first impression but trust me you will become a tool
No pension, no sick pay, no holding your job if needed, no rules or guidelines, no equipment, I could go on but you get the drift
You will get losers here telling you they have worked for years for people like that but they have never experienced the worst because it never came to that
If you have a family you are mad even in the worst big company you have life insurance

Quinny:
I drive for a small one man outfit who has 3 artics, 1 x 18tonner and a couple of vans.

I started on the agency with him last year, on temp to perm, and he asked me if I wanted a job because a driver had his licence taken off him for heart problems, so I accepted.

Now the job is repetitive, insofar as I go to the same places, daily, on a weekly basis, but know what time I am starting, what time I am finishing, and have a social life outside of work. If we get an extra drop or collection on behalf of the customer we work for, we get a nice little brown envelope by way of a thank you. He bought 2 brand new XFSSC’s in October, of which I got one, which considering I am a day driver, isn’t bad, and it is not shared with anyone else, and stands when I am on holiday, and the equipment wants for nothing, even down to the bells and whistles on the trucks. (He pays for them, and they dont bother me tbh.) We even have decent corporate workwear.

At 55 I see this as a pipe and slippers job, until I retire.

And finally. I average after breaks, 36 hours a week. We are decently salaried, so there is no incentive to do any more hours, nor run bent.

Ken.

In a cut throat industry where everyone is undercutting each other down to the last penny to get contracts, you are working for a one-man outfit, doing 36 hours a week “decently salaried”, driving one of two brand new DAF XF SSC units (which stands idle when you’re on holiday), and at 55 years of age you think that is going to continue until you retire? What is that good ■■■■ that you are smoking, brother? :smiley: Enjoy it while it lasts.

Quinny:
I drive for a small one man outfit who has 3 artics, 1 x 18tonner and a couple of vans.

I started on the agency with him last year, on temp to perm, and he asked me if I wanted a job because a driver had his licence taken off him for heart problems, so I accepted.

Now the job is repetitive, insofar as I go to the same places, daily, on a weekly basis, but know what time I am starting, what time I am finishing, and have a social life outside of work. If we get an extra drop or collection on behalf of the customer we work for, we get a nice little brown envelope by way of a thank you. He bought 2 brand new XFSSC’s in October, of which I got one, which considering I am a day driver, isn’t bad, and it is not shared with anyone else, and stands when I am on holiday, and the equipment wants for nothing, even down to the bells and whistles on the trucks. (He pays for them, and they dont bother me tbh.) We even have decent corporate workwear.

At 55 I see this as a pipe and slippers job, until I retire.

And finally. I average after breaks, 36 hours a week. We are decently salaried, so there is no incentive to do any more hours, nor run bent.

Ken.

36 hours a week in your dreams and on salary again in your dreams
So in reality for your new truck and your wages you must be on 25 to 30 pounds a hour
To get a living
Another one living in fantasy world

I guess my outfit would be considered as small - I run 11 tractor units - the oldest is now 19 years old! Yes 19 years old!! But I have a waiting list of colleagues who would like to work for me. They are colleagues because I can’t run my business without them, so I like to make sure that they benefit not just with monthly pay packets. All my team are on a pension scheme with a large pension provider, and as employer I put 5% contributions into that for them. They also are covered on a health care plan.

I guess I am lucky - my business operates in a niche marketplace, and I said to myself that having worked for large soulless corporates, I want my own business to offer some of the benefits I had with those to the team who work with me.

And because my reputation means a lot to me, and my clients, I do not, and will not, run bent!!!

Enough of a ramble but smaller concerns can sometimes look after you

Best of luck Nite Owl

I hope everything is as great as you hope it will be

EDTRUCK:
I guess my outfit would be considered as small - I run 11 tractor units - the oldest is now 19 years old! Yes 19 years old!! But I have a waiting list of colleagues who would like to work for me. They are colleagues because I can’t run my business without them, so I like to make sure that they benefit not just with monthly pay packets. All my team are on a pension scheme with a large pension provider, and as employer I put 5% contributions into that for them. They also are covered on a health care plan.

I guess I am lucky - my business operates in a niche marketplace, and I said to myself that having worked for large soulless corporates, I want my own business to offer some of the benefits I had with those to the team who work with me.

And because my reputation means a lot to me, and my clients, I do not, and will not, run bent!!!

Enough of a ramble but smaller concerns can sometimes look after you

Sounds genuine fair play to you
You are a rare breed in this day and age

I worked for a small family manafuartuing company delivering there products.
2 of us there.

Good points of it
Had a dedicated truck
Any problems and it was sorted asap
Office staff were easy to talk to not faceless people on other end of a phone.
Was better organised.
Knew what was doing all week.
Got an Xmas bonus.

Bad points
Money wasn’t the best.
I stayed there 3 years but moved on like everyone else for more money.

Bigtruck3:

Quinny:

36 hours a week in your dreams and on salary again in your dreams
So in reality for your new truck and your wages you must be on 25 to 30 pounds a hour
To get a living
Another one living in fantasy world

Have you worked out yet why people who land (and appreciate and look after and go out of their way to make it work) jobs like these, and they do exist but usually in a niche sector, never let on where they work?

Juddian:

Bigtruck3:

Quinny:

36 hours a week in your dreams and on salary again in your dreams
So in reality for your new truck and your wages you must be on 25 to 30 pounds a hour
To get a living
Another one living in fantasy world

Have you worked out yet why people who land (and appreciate and look after and go out of their way to make it work) jobs like these, and they do exist but usually in a niche sector, never let on where they work?

I’m pretty sure Quinny put a picture of his truck, light bars et al on here before - but in most cases yes you wouldn’t put the details on

Bigtruck3:
The difference is if you get sick they will drop you like a ton of bricks you will be scraping the bottom of the barrel
It’s a no brainer work for a company that provides benefits trust me it can be a life saver

Not true in all cases.
I had 6 months off fully paid.

Get the right company and they will treat you right.

Oh, and I’m salaried, get approx 30k a year and work no where near 40 hours a week usually.
Niche sector, and I got very lucky when I was young and they took me on and trained me up. I didn’t even have a car licence when I started. That was over 20 years ago now.

Bigtruck3:

EDTRUCK:
I guess my outfit would be considered as small - I run 11 tractor units - the oldest is now 19 years old! Yes 19 years old!! But I have a waiting list of colleagues who would like to work for me. They are colleagues because I can’t run my business without them, so I like to make sure that they benefit not just with monthly pay packets. All my team are on a pension scheme with a large pension provider, and as employer I put 5% contributions into that for them. They also are covered on a health care plan.

I guess I am lucky - my business operates in a niche marketplace, and I said to myself that having worked for large soulless corporates, I want my own business to offer some of the benefits I had with those to the team who work with me.

And because my reputation means a lot to me, and my clients, I do not, and will not, run bent!!!

Enough of a ramble but smaller concerns can sometimes look after you

Sounds genuine fair play to you
You are a rare breed in this day and age

Much like my old company. If someone had come from a big logistics place they found it confusing that management had actually done the job, that we looked after them and respected their thoughts on how a job should be done.

Never advertised for a driver, not that I could get them to leave generally.

Good luck in the new job.

I find that the bigger the company, the bigger the ineptitude. This can be exploited very easily for those who like bunk/reading time but I get bored very easily and really cannot stand waiting 3 hrs at a time.

My findings on the smaller companies is that they will pull you out much quicker, however they also seem to keep tabs on you. Not good for someone like me who is constantly in the naughty room :frowning:

Bigtruck3:

Quinny:
I drive for a small one man outfit who has 3 artics, 1 x 18tonner and a couple of vans.

I started on the agency with him last year, on temp to perm, and he asked me if I wanted a job because a driver had his licence taken off him for heart problems, so I accepted.

Now the job is repetitive, insofar as I go to the same places, daily, on a weekly basis, but know what time I am starting, what time I am finishing, and have a social life outside of work. If we get an extra drop or collection on behalf of the customer we work for, we get a nice little brown envelope by way of a thank you. He bought 2 brand new XFSSC’s in October, of which I got one, which considering I am a day driver, isn’t bad, and it is not shared with anyone else, and stands when I am on holiday, and the equipment wants for nothing, even down to the bells and whistles on the trucks. (He pays for them, and they dont bother me tbh.) We even have decent corporate workwear.

At 55 I see this as a pipe and slippers job, until I retire.

And finally. I average after breaks, 36 hours a week. We are decently salaried, so there is no incentive to do any more hours, nor run bent.

Ken.

36 hours a week in your dreams and on salary again in your dreams
So in reality for your new truck and your wages you must be on 25 to 30 pounds a hour
To get a living
Another one living in fantasy world

Do I detect the green eyed monster?

I have no reason to lie you moron.

For your information, the gaffer has just signed a new 4 year deal with the customer, with an extension if wanted.

Ken.

Jimmy McNulty:
I’m pretty sure Quinny put a picture of his truck, light bars et al on here before - but in most cases yes you wouldn’t put the details on

Yes I did.

And our operation IS a niche market.

Ken.