the maoster:
^^^ I have nothing. I’m incredibly drunk and your response deserves more respect than I can give it now. My apologies my friend, I will address your post when I’m in a fit state.
When’s yer 45 minute break up exactly mate??
In other news, a hole has appeared in a taxiway at Manston
Kent police are looking into it.
the maoster:
Where the Covid fanatics fall down in their reasoning is by assuming that anyone who questions the official narrative is automatically saying that Covid-19 is a hoax. This is simply not the case; I don’t know a single person who denies that Covid is an actual problematic disease, they are merely questioning the handling of the pandemic and increasingly more and more people are fearful that the cure will undoubtedly cause more death and misery than the actual virus. Simple as that.
This. When you see thousands of black cabs parked up in Epping Forest, each one represents a man’s livelihood, his means of paying his mortgage. And if it was possible to do so you would see untold thousands of pubs, restaurants, exhibition companies etc etc etc parked up in Epping Forest.
Meanwhile we are told that the overall death rate in 2020 was the 11th highest in the last 30 years (WTF?), and that the overall death rate in 2020 will be the highest since 1985.
What the hell happened in 1985? I remember 1985 well, I was 26 so it wasn’t exactly “before my time”. I don’t remember there being anything on the news at all about the enormous number of deaths that year. Perhaps the advent of the internet has simply caused an over-excitement in the collective imagination.
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Simon already explained most things to you in such a way, that I can’t possibly do it better. Let me just add my threepence here.
beefy4605:
The French closed the border with no warning for 48 hours and then decided they wanted everyone tested before they would let them back into France and its all the fault of the UK ■■
If only Britain was preparing itself for exactly this situation for more than two years, doing test runs of it: bloomberg.com/news/articles … eal-brexit
The only thing that happened here was, that the border was closed a week earlier than no-deal Brexit was supposed to happen. Britain announced Dover is ready for that in September 2019. Tell me, what’s longer period of time: a week, or 67 weeks?
Catch yourself on . There have been plenty of queues at borders in the past - heard many stories of trucks being held up for days or even weeks trying to cross over into Russia / Turkey etc etc . What was ever done for those guys left sitting on the side of the road ? Did anyone ever come round and see if they were all right , bring them food and water , provide them with toilets ■■ I’m sure some of the older members could provide you with some enlighenment.
I spent once three days trying to get into Croatia before it become EU member. There was a strike on Slovenian-Croatian border, but somehow nobody imprisoned me illegally at some deserted airport with no access to food, water or toilet, so I was able to drive to Hungarian-Croatian border where I had and this time I got trapped between the borders due to some paperwork ■■■■-up. I sat there for a day, after which they offered me a meal in their canteen and then, after agreed with me how can I be reached when the matters will be sorted out, released me back to Hungary, where I found myself a nice hotel (I was in the van back then). See the difference yet?
Harry Monk:
the maoster:
Where the Covid fanatics fall down in their reasoning is by assuming that anyone who questions the official narrative is automatically saying that Covid-19 is a hoax. This is simply not the case; I don’t know a single person who denies that Covid is an actual problematic disease, they are merely questioning the handling of the pandemic and increasingly more and more people are fearful that the cure will undoubtedly cause more death and misery than the actual virus. Simple as that.This. When you see thousands of black cabs parked up in Epping Forest, each one represents a man’s livelihood, his means of paying his mortgage. And if it was possible to do so you would see untold thousands of pubs, restaurants, exhibition companies etc etc etc parked up in Epping Forest.
Meanwhile we are told that the overall death rate in 2020 was the 11th highest in the last 30 years (WTF?), and that the overall death rate in 2020 will be the highest since 1985.
What the hell happened in 1985? I remember 1985 well, I was 26 so it wasn’t exactly “before my time”. I don’t remember there being anything on the news at all about the enormous number of deaths that year. Perhaps the advent of the internet has simply caused an over-excitement in the collective imagination.
So, who told you that 2020 has the 11th highest mortality rate?
Macrotrends has a nice clear graph based on UN data 1950 to date:
macrotrends.net/countries/G … death-rate
Maybe you were reading some of this stuff? :
fullfact.org/online/2020-death-toll-comparison/
Figures and predictions based on figures for deaths in only part of the UK in 2020, compared with the whole of the UK in other previous years.
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the maoster:
^^^ I have nothing. I’m incredibly drunk and your response deserves more respect than I can give it now. My apologies my friend, I will address your post when I’m in a fit state.
No need for any apologies! 
I try to avoid writing after a glass too, so just think: the rubbish I write was done sober!
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robroy:
the maoster:
^^^ I have nothing. I’m incredibly drunk and your response deserves more respect than I can give it now. My apologies my friend, I will address your post when I’m in a fit state.When’s yer 45 minute break up exactly mate??
That was actually very funny New year, new Robroy and all that
Simon:
beefy4605:
The French closed the border with no warning for 48 hours and then decided they wanted everyone tested before they would let them back into France and its all the fault of the UK ■■
Catch yourself on . There have been plenty of queues at borders in the past - heard many stories of trucks being held up for days or even weeks trying to cross over into Russia / Turkey etc etc . What was ever done for those guys left sitting on the side of the road ? Did anyone ever come round and see if they were all right , bring them food and water , provide them with toilets ■■ I’m sure some of the older members could provide you with some enlighenment.Nope, that isn’t what the problem was.
The problem was the ■■■■ poor British response to that.
Park trucks heading for Dover or the pipe down a motorway. Put a couple of turdis every few km, that’ll do.
Oh, we don’t have enough motorway, ok, park a few thousand of them on an airfield. There are already a dozen turdis there, that’ll be fine.
No they are not allowed to leave the airfield for supplies, they are not allowed to use their cooker either, not even to boil a kettle of water for a brew.
There is ONE burger van on site now. That’ll be sufficient to keep 3,000+ drivers in hot drinks and burgers.
No, good hearted citizen will not be allowed to drive slowly through the parked up trucks to distribute hot meals.
No good hearted citizens will not be allowed onto the airfield to distribute hot meals. Meals they have cooked out of simple sympathy for people stuck in the middle of nowhere through no fault of there own, immediately before Christmas.Every turdis I have ever seen has a notice in it. It reads something like, “this facility is intended for the use of up to 10 persons, for a set length of time” probably 5 working days, I don’t remember exactly. Not “for use by 500 persons for an unlimited time”. They were full within hours.
This could quite easily have been a chance for Britain to give Macron the V sign, IF we had done it right.
There’s a huge garrison not that far away at Aldershot. The military are very experienced at setting up a kitchen in the middle of know-where, and within a few hours dishing out hundreds of hot meals. They can set up a complete hot shower system in the middle of a forest and have hundreds of squaddies in, showered, and away within hours. If I was a squaddie, just about to head off on Christmas leave, would I be happy about being collared to do this? No I would not.But I would see the requirement, moan about it, then get on with the job. No-one else in the UK has the capacity or the equipment to do that except the military. There are several other garrisons around London, so the “pain in the neck” job could easily have been circulated around them, so that each squad only did one day on duty.Queueing at borders was normal, especially once going beyond what is now EU borders. Being held for days was known about, anticipated and stocked up for. This was none of those. These drivers were expecting to go down to Kent, Q for a while, catch a ferry or train, be home in a few days for their Christmas break, the same as last week. Those that did self catering were probably running their stock of supplies down so as not to leave any perishables over Christmas. THEN they get parked up for days, low on supplies, not allowed to cook what they did have. No information, not that the UK had much information to give, but the information they were given was gobbledygook anyway.
THAT is what the problem was.
This response is all well and good but imagine it was the other way round…the UK stopped allowing people in from France and it was the french who parked them up on a disused airfield with nothing…it would still be the UKs fault in some peoples eyes.
Santa:
Wheel Nut:
The thread has moved on slightly and I was on another forum today with people wishing end of year celebrations and for me, This is where I struggle, we were first told of Coronavirus in January 2020, it January 2021 tomorrow and I can truthfully say I do not know a single person who has passed away with Covid-19. I know people who have died this year, some have died young, but generally it has been either accident or life threatening disease.My father and his brother were both in the Army through WW2. My mother, with my sister and I, were evacuated from East London and my grandfather worked in an ammunition factory. Despite this, No one in my family lost their lives. Based on this evidence I can only assume that WW2 was fake news.
A rather obtuse reply. I know what happened in WW2 as we have recorded history and documented proof. So far the Covid-19 death figures we are given on an almost hourly basis which cannot be confirmed due to the accounting system.
An R number between 1.1 and 1.3 means that, on average, every 10 people infected will infect between 11 and 13 other people.
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The number of deaths registered in the UK in the week ending 18 December 2020 was 14,627, which was 1,489 deaths higher than the five-year average; of the deaths registered in the UK in Week 51, 3,270 deaths involved COVID-19, 204 deaths higher than in Week 50.
Fake news or what, I am not sure but this is what the ONS want me to believe this week.
Suprised Lilly Allen never went down there to apologise on our behalf
Suedehead:
Suprised Lilly Allen never went down there to apologise on our behalf
Gary Lineker took one of Waberers home with him I heard. 
robroy:
Suedehead:
Suprised Lilly Allen never went down there to apologise on our behalfGary Lineker took one of Waberers home with him I heard.
Wonder if he gave him a backload 