But if you worked in a sausage factory and there was a sign on the wall saying “Only make 40 sausages an hour” then why would you want to make 50?
Assuming you’re on job and finish, it’s so you produce 200 in 4 hours, rather than 5, and get an early knock off.
Anyway, I’m in favour of 40MPH. It only realistically costs you minutes on a typical journey, and after driving in that style for some time, anything over that just feels excessive. It somehow feels completely unprofessional to floor an artic everywhere.
But if you worked in a sausage factory and there was a sign on the wall saying “Only make 40 sausages an hour” then why would you want to make 50?
That argument only works for a small percentage of workers though. Anyone who’s paid a certain amount per sausage will make them quicker, as will those who only need to make x amount of sausages per shift before clocking off.
Which is exactly the same as driving. Not everyone is paid solely by the hour with a set shift. Some are on trip money, some have mileage/work related bonuses and some are job and knock. Others are simply working long hours as it is so getting home to the family is far more important than a few quid in the wage packet.
But if you worked in a sausage factory and there was a sign on the wall saying “Only make 40 sausages an hour” then why would you want to make 50?
But you know its not like that, not meaning to insult you but have you ever worked for a company that unless your working a break neck speeds and driving on the limiter everywhere, hands out abuse and threatens you with your job? For some guys they have no option but to drive flat out.
Saaamon:
But you know its not like that, not meaning to insult you but have you ever worked for a company that unless your working a break neck speeds and driving on the limiter everywhere, hands out abuse and threatens you with your job?
I have, many years ago, but such companies nowadays are the exception rather than the rule. The bottom line is that if a company is willing to play games with your life and the lives of others, then there’s no shame in jacking the job and signing on, and if everybody had that attitude then these companies would die out very quickly.
I personally can’t see speed limits being raised anywhere, on any road. I can’t think of one single piece of road traffic legislation which has been changed to make the law more liberal.
And, at the end of the day, it is true that any vehicle involved in a collision at 50mph will do more harm than if it had come to grief at 40mph.
I think that the limit should be 50 on most SCs and 60 on dual carriageways. Even cars or vans with trailers / caravans can legally do that and which is safer ? I don’t know when the 40 limit came in, but, it was a long time ago. In the last twenty years or so trucks have become a lot safer than they were with ABS, EBS etc.
As always the saying with due care and attention and not too fast for the conditions, should be applied.
My impression of whats going on at least in this area is the majority wish to do and do more than 40 anyway
Also, most experienced professionals know what is a safe and sensible speed for any road / situation, Theres always exceptions.
Why is it that those that insist on doing 40 only seem to end up doing 35 to 38 mph (mostly trolley dollies) and delight on the 2 miles queue of increasingly desperate and infuriated drivers behind them
pavaroti:
All depends if your on hourly rate or fixed salery. Why would a driver on genuine hourly rate want the speed limit raised?
If your on a fixed salary I e job n knock why would you not want to stick to the speed limit? Being a professional driver
Would people brake the speed limit on a driving test?
Would people brake the speed limit if being followed by plod
Would people brake the speed limit if there was a speed camera attached to every lamppost?
I reackon that’s 3 nos
The limit is there weather you agree with it or not we should all stick to it weather your on a bonus/hourly paid/saleried/owner driver/on a promise
The only way you will ever get done for speeding is by breaking the law
pavaroti:
All depends if your on hourly rate or fixed salery. Why would a driver on genuine hourly rate want the speed limit raised?
If your on a fixed salary I e job n knock why would you not want to stick to the speed limit? Being a professional driver
Would people brake the speed limit on a driving test?
Would people brake the speed limit if being followed by plod
Would people brake the speed limit if there was a speed camera attached to every lamppost?
I reackon that’s 3 nos
The limit is there weather you agree with it or not we should all stick to it weather your on a bonus/hourly paid/saleried/owner driver/on a promise
The only way you will ever get done for speeding is by breaking the law
Are you seriously trying to say that job & knock boys drive the same as hourly rate lads.
Am a 40mph on SC way now due to 9points !
I actually find it relaxing BUT I hate when a que forms behind me . I have had some real idiots not waiting to either a long straight rd or I can pull in to let pass (witch I try do as much as possible)
Mostly it’s cars but there has been a few lorry drivers asking me of I like coffee as the fly past !
Am sorry if I have held u up but lets face it they ain’t going to pay my mortgage if I get the final 3 points !
pavaroti:
All depends if your on hourly rate or fixed salery. Why would a driver on genuine hourly rate want the speed limit raised?
If your on a fixed salary I e job n knock why would you not want to stick to the speed limit? Being a professional driver
Would people brake the speed limit on a driving test?
Would people brake the speed limit if being followed by plod
Would people brake the speed limit if there was a speed camera attached to every lamppost?
I reackon that’s 3 nos
The limit is there weather you agree with it or not we should all stick to it weather your on a bonus/hourly paid/saleried/owner driver/on a promise
The only way you will ever get done for speeding is by breaking the law
Are you seriously trying to say that job & knock boys drive the same as hourly rate lads.
In a nutshell yes
What’s so important about finishing ten min early by braking the law
So do job n knock boys not do there daily checks properly because they want to save time
Do they not take there legal brakes
At the end of the day if your on job n knock you get a few quick tips etc its a bonus if you fin early
We are all supposed to be professionals
Itll be the same idiot who tried to run both myself and another guy off the road on Monday, when we where going down the east side of A580 after the last set of traffic lights, & 50yds before the exit to join the M60 towards leeds. He decided that he want to join the motorway from lane 2 of the A580 :smiling_imp: Realising that theres no way either of the 2 of us in lane 1 where getting out of his way, he drops back. But as soon as he manages to catch up, hes hell bent on catching up and joining the M60 ahead of us, to the point that hes running over the chevrons where it narrows to 1 lane just before the M60, & he`s got the O/S wheels on the verge kicking up dirt
… he must be on a good bonus scheme to be that keen
peirre:
Right or wrong, leave the speed limits alone.
Wheel Nut:
It is the tipper drivers fault
Itll be the same idiot who tried to run both myself and another guy off the road on Monday, when we where going down the east side of A580 after the last set of traffic lights, & 50yds before the exit to join the M60 towards leeds. He decided that he want to join the motorway from lane 2 of the A580 :smiling_imp: Realising that theres no way either of the 2 of us in lane 1 where getting out of his way, he drops back. But as soon as he manages to catch up, hes hell bent on catching up and joining the M60 ahead of us, to the point that hes running over the chevrons where it narrows to 1 lane just before the M60, & he`s got the O/S wheels on the verge kicking up dirt
… he must be on a good bonus scheme to be that keen
Probably on hourly rate but desperate to get ahead of those slow drivers stringing it out on a fixed salery.
Saaamon:
But you know its not like that, not meaning to insult you but have you ever worked for a company that unless your working a break neck speeds and driving on the limiter everywhere, hands out abuse and threatens you with your job?
I have, many years ago, but such companies nowadays are the exception rather than the rule. The bottom line is that if a company is willing to play games with your life and the lives of others, then there’s no shame in jacking the job and signing on, and if everybody had that attitude then these companies would die out very quickly.
I personally can’t see speed limits being raised anywhere, on any road. I can’t think of one single piece of road traffic legislation which has been changed to make the law more liberal.
And, at the end of the day, it is true that any vehicle involved in a collision at 50mph will do more harm than if it had come to grief at 40mph.
An interesting speed limit RISE that I know about is the A370 going in to Weston super Mare from M5 junc 21.
It used to be 50mph dual carriageway but was increased to 60mph and re-signed accordingly.
However, many car drivers seem to stick to 50 mph for some reason!
Anyone would think that drivers sticking to the 40 limit are common place and car drivers are forever being stuck behind them doing this excessively slow speed in a lot of cases. The reality is actually pretty much the opposite. The reason a lot of car drivers dont even know about it is because so few drivers actually stick to it. Everytime i have driven rigidly at 40 its never long till another pro hgv driver is up my arse end looking to get a move on.
If every single hgv driver in the land started driving rigidly at 40mph on sc’s there would soon be a very apparant problem. But that wont happen so we just have to live with the limit.
I personally think 40s about right anyway, better to have people breaking that and doing 45 than breaking a 50 limit and inevitably clogging it on the limiter everywhere. My only gripe is the opportunistic enforcement of the 40 limit on roads like the a15 where breaking it a bit isnt doing anyone any harm.
If the revised limit was 50, routes would be planned based on 50mph on single’s.
Now, some would still drive safe, if it’s not safe to do 50, they’d slow down, but we’ve all seen the guy in the roadworks - the vids are on here and youtube - who’s tailgating a car at 49mph because it’s not doing 50 - and these are truck drivers.
The ‘it’s a limit not a target’ mentality doesn’t work for all, including some of those with professional licences, and I think a 50mph limit on singles would wreak havoc on our roads tbh.
waynedl:
The ‘it’s a limit not a target’ mentality doesn’t work for all, including some of those with professional licences, and I think a 50mph limit on singles would wreak havoc on our roads tbh.
why? i’d say the majority, maybe even vast majority do that and more
waynedl:
The ‘it’s a limit not a target’ mentality doesn’t work for all, including some of those with professional licences, and I think a 50mph limit on singles would wreak havoc on our roads tbh.
Doubt the change would have much noticeable difference. When some traffic lights pack up everyone copes.
Whenever there’s a discussion on here about speed limits you’d think every truck in the country was pottering around at 40mph off duals and Motorways but I rarely encounter that many doing it beyond trolley dollies and on hills.
If you’re empty you’ll stop way quicker than a fully freighted 7.5 tonner at 50mph yet the latter is currently legal.
Buses can do 50 on sc so why cant we? A coach crashing into a car at 50 is going to no less damage than a artic, either way people are going to die. Oh hang i forgot, bus/coach firms get looked after by the government.
