Shunter & road

yorkshire_tramper · 19 February 2022 21:50

Roymondo:

merc0447:
the biggest thing for shunters is your knees. Companies could sort the knee issue thing if they’d spec park brakes on the headboard but it’s very rare to see a park brake on a headboard.

I can see your viewpoint on all the rest of it, but what’s the knee issue that would be addressed by having the park brake button on the headboard?

It is the running up and down the steps to release the trailer park brake, on the headboard there is no need to leave the top deck area.

roymondo · 20 February 2022 09:01

Yorkshire Tramper:
It is the running up and down the steps to release the trailer park brake, on the headboard there is no need to leave the top deck area.

Ah - of course. Thanks.

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mosesmaster · 30 January 2011 12:54

Just started a new job shunting with a tug & road legal. A few questions.
1: How far can you travel on road, is there a limit on miles. Distance.
2:do you have to wind legs fully to travel; on road or just jack up as you would in yard for moving around.
3: do you have to have your’e flashing roof lights when on public roads.
Any feedback would be welcome on these matters, Thanks.

jrl_driver · 30 January 2011 14:14

mosesmaster:
Just started a new job shunting with a tug & road legal. A few questions.
1: How far can you travel on road, is there a limit on miles. Distance.
2:do you have to wind legs fully to travel; on road or just jack up as you would in yard for moving around.
3: do you have to have your’e flashing roof lights when on public roads.
Any feedback would be welcome on these matters, Thanks.

surely the firm your going to be working for will tell you all this & more besides when you start,there are all sorts of legal stuff to be taken into account i would imagine,like making sure it’s insured to be driven on the road is the main thing,it’s you that will get nicked & have 6 points on your licence if it isn’t insured.

stevieboy308 · 30 January 2011 14:36

i’ve never driven a tug let alone on the road, but i’d say, if it’s legal then its legal, there might some distance rules if using red diesel like farmers, or it might be a no no? i’d say wind the legs up and run with the fifth wheel lowered and turn the beacon off, possibly an offence to have it on when it’s not needed. but only guessing!

stevie

jisl_to_esl · 30 January 2011 15:33

I would guess, for a start, you need to watch the weight on the drive axle. The Terberg shunters move fully loaded triaxles about. Take one on the road, its gotta be overweight on the drive axle unless there’s a C & U dispensation for shunters. Certainly legs up, curtains and doors secured with 5th wheel down for stability. Has to be road legal unless someone knows different.

Judging by the state of some shunt wagons they shouldn’t be moving in the yard never mind the road!

quinny · 30 January 2011 15:48

Used to run them on the road at Carlsberg Leeds, and from my recollection, it was all susies plugged in, legs up, and fifth wheel lowered to keep it level as possible. Don’t recall a trailer plate on though, but the tugs had amber beacons on.

Top speed was about 15mph.

Ken.

conor · 30 January 2011 18:09

mosesmaster:
Just started a new job shunting with a tug & road legal. A few questions.
1: How far can you travel on road, is there a limit on miles. Distance.
2:do you have to wind legs fully to travel; on road or just jack up as you would in yard for moving around.
3: do you have to have your’e flashing roof lights when on public roads.
Any feedback would be welcome on these matters, Thanks.

No distance limit but not allowed on motorways as it can’t do 50MPH
Legs fully up.
No.

ian58 · 30 January 2011 18:48

mosesmaster:
Just started a new job shunting with a tug & road legal. A few questions.
1: How far can you travel on road, is there a limit on miles. Distance.
2:do you have to wind legs fully to travel; on road or just jack up as you would in yard for moving around.
3: do you have to have your’e flashing roof lights when on public roads.
Any feedback would be welcome on these matters, Thanks.

There is no limit as to how far you can travel unless you are using red diesel then there is a limit of, I think, 1.5kms (I might be wrong on this as it might be 1km)
You have to comply with the same rules and reg that you would if using a standard tractor and trailer. So legs up and all air/electrical lines connected, curtains secure and a number plate.
You only need to use a flashing beacon if your top speed is under 25mph and you are using it on a dual-carriageway.

mosesmaster · 1 February 2011 11:22

Many thank’s for the info very helpful.
Yes it’s running on red deisel & the distance is well below the 1.5
as for the insurance yes got it.
Ha, have you tried talking to a newbe gaffa who knows nowt about anything haulage (bless)
Thats why i posted here to get good honest advice.

jrl_driver · 1 February 2011 12:39

you & your newbie gaffer might find this useful then mate,not sure where you are in the country or what experience you have shunting but might be a good idea to attend something like this.

the-resources-group.com/trai … ?pageid=49

mosesmaster · 2 February 2011 12:04

Thanks but no thanks on doing a course.
these were just a few questions as i have never used a tug before as for general shunting using a unit well many yrs of doing that. Have been on road with many firms agencys for over 20yrs class 1 even done a spint through france Italy, southern & northen Ireland. all kinds of units driven trs containers chilled. must say though general houlage is the worst jobs of all ( well for me that is)
Granted this seems a lot but have only held down a few full time jobs due to working conditions (you want me to that as well) **** *** & redundancys hence using agency inbetween. Also have tower crane licence never used that & runs out this yr waster £3grand doing that but credit crunch hit construction hard, aslo same as when you get hgv (no experiance). From nr manchester.