Show me, the money

simcor:
Dozy everyone knows earning the sort of money your talking about is achievable.

However having to work 71 hours for it is desperate. That’s not a life for anyone except the ridiculous money chasers. Not to mention staying out every night and being away from home every week. Let alone being run ragged etc.

That’s nigh on double a normal working week to earn that kind of money.

Drivers are their own worst enemy because they allow companies to walk all over them making them work ridiculous hours for the money. Until drivers stop doing that nothing will change and it will be expected as the norm.

It is frankly ridiculous in this day and age when health and safety is so important in this game that drivers are still allowed to work so many hours a week every week.

But the one thing I guarantee is when drivers end up in a severe smash due to fatigue and tiredness, the company will wash its hands of the driver, they have done all they can to adhere to health safety with every piece of paperwork you have to sign. It’s always the driver who loses out when it goes wrong.

Let alone the ones who die early from working long hours.

Amen to all of that.

Juddian:
The money is fine, its the hours you are doing for it that are not, 55 hours night work is more than enough.

Sensible hours for the money is usually to be found in the remaining own account operations, or specialised work where you might be doing long hours but the pay can be eye opening, eg mate of mine (not where i work) grossed £390 for one day shift bank hol monday, mind you he grafted for that and he is highly skilled and respected in his sector having done the job some 30 years…i know how they are paid so regardless of what someone here might think that’s genuine, would have been £100 less for a normal monday.

It’s become a bit of a habit of mine - turning down jobs where 50+ hours is demanded of one, when the advert stated “any hours avialable over any shifts 24/7” which actually turns out to be “any five from seven” tosh as per usual on further enquiry… "

“Hey, I thought you were looking for work” says gaffer on my turning it down…
“Yes, but I thought you actually had any shifts available, and I am after Monday-Thursday 18:30 starts trunking - nothing outside that range. Silly me for mis-interpreting your ad”.

A worker’s market in bud?

Not about higher wages, but about working the availability one actually wants to offer - rather than be forced to work hours you DON’T want - “because it’s that or nothing”…

“Nothing” doesn’t bother me anymore, as I’m already paying the bills - and I didn’t even get the furlough!
What will happen when the furlough finally ends though?

Like the Covid lockdown itself - I now suspect that it’ll become the new status quo, and will therefore never end!

Most workers - won’t be coming back - you watch now… :bulb: :bulb: :bulb:

Winseer:
It’s become a bit of a habit of mine - turning down jobs where 50+ hours is demanded of one, when the advert stated “any hours avialable over any shifts 24/7” which actually turns out to be “any five from seven” tosh as per usual on further enquiry… "

“Hey, I thought you were looking for work” says gaffer on my turning it down…
“Yes, but I thought you actually had any shifts available, and I am after Monday-Thursday 18:30 starts trunking - nothing outside that range. Silly me for mis-interpreting your ad”.

A worker’s market in bud?

Not about higher wages, but about working the availability one actually wants to offer - rather than be forced to work hours you DON’T want - “because it’s that or nothing”…

Even worse similar type of zb applies to self employed ‘opportunities’.
Advertised as light van work and the inference of local or distance work to choice.
Which actually turns out to be mostly local multi drop and on telling them I only want the distance work and can afford to leave the local zb they say no you must do the zb work to be ‘considered’ for the distance work.
Which of course there ain’t much of anyway and too many wanting it.
I told them no thanks I’ve had a working life of this zb and I don’t need it now especially if I’m supposed to be a ‘self employed contractor’ thereby inferring the right to turn down and pick and choose work.
Why not just be honest in their requirements local multi drop and some limited distance work allocated subject to willingness to do the former.Oh wait that obviously circumvents the idea of the right to pick/choose/turn down work and thereby the self employed status of the job.HMRC should be expected to jump on this zb.Also the situation of ‘self employed’ drivers not being able to set workloads in terms of drops.

As for 50+ hours expected.Why when driving time is limited to 9/10 hours max ?.
All too predictably followed by we’re paying you for an 11 + hour shift so we can obviously instruct you to do some labouring work with the spare time.On that note that could also apply even <50 hours. :unamused: :imp:

Winseer:

Juddian:
The money is fine, its the hours you are doing for it that are not, 55 hours night work is more than enough.

Sensible hours for the money is usually to be found in the remaining own account operations, or specialised work where you might be doing long hours but the pay can be eye opening, eg mate of mine (not where i work) grossed £390 for one day shift bank hol monday, mind you he grafted for that and he is highly skilled and respected in his sector having done the job some 30 years…i know how they are paid so regardless of what someone here might think that’s genuine, would have been £100 less for a normal monday.

It’s become a bit of a habit of mine - turning down jobs where 50+ hours is demanded of one, when the advert stated “any hours avialable over any shifts 24/7” which actually turns out to be “any five from seven” tosh as per usual on further enquiry… "

“Hey, I thought you were looking for work” says gaffer on my turning it down…
“Yes, but I thought you actually had any shifts available, and I am after Monday-Thursday 18:30 starts trunking - nothing outside that range. Silly me for mis-interpreting your ad”.

A worker’s market in bud?

Not about higher wages, but about working the availability one actually wants to offer - rather than be forced to work hours you DON’T want - “because it’s that or nothing”…

“Nothing” doesn’t bother me anymore, as I’m already paying the bills - and I didn’t even get the furlough!
What will happen when the furlough finally ends though?

Like the Covid lockdown itself - I now suspect that it’ll become the new status quo, and will therefore never end!

Most workers - won’t be coming back - you watch now… :bulb: :bulb: :bulb:

May 2020 - Winseer popping up on every topic going, whining and ■■■■■■■■ about “any 5 from 7”, not getting any Furlough while he was an agency driver and we are all going to end up jobless.

May 2021 - Winseer pops up whining and ■■■■■■■■ about “any 5 from 7”, not getting Furloughed and none of us will have jobs to return to …yawn!

Talk about deja vu!

It is certainlly deja vu to see nothing useful to anyone else reading this from yourself, and my other critics… :unamused: :unamused: