bigvern1:
Mind your own business.
+1
Dieseldog66:
What the xxxx has it to do with you!!?
+2
dieseldog999:
Dieseldog66:
What the xxxx has it to do with you!!?+1 don’t be a grass/jobsworth/tout…keep your nose to yourself…for all you know,the boss might condone it and allow it,then you will just be known as a tout…with the predictable retaliation that will follow once johnny 2 cards finds out.
+2
Copy and pasted from the ACAS website. Grass him. I would. Guys like that ruin lives, working conditions and don’t give a ■■■■ about anyone else. Do the right thing m8.
"Whistle-blowing - Public Interest Disclosure
Key points
Disclosures should be made in the public interest.
If workers can not go to their employer with the disclosure first they should contact a prescribed person or body (guidance is available from GOV.UK - Blowing the whistle: list of prescribed people and bodies).
If workers are dismissed because of whistleblowing they may claim unfair dismissal.
A tribunal will have the power to reduce any compensation by up to 25% if they think the disclosure was made in “bad faith”.
If workers bring information about a wrongdoing to the attention of their employers or a relevant organisation, they are protected in certain circumstances under the Public Interest Disclosure Act 1998. This is commonly referred to as ‘blowing the whistle’. The law that protects whistle-blowers is for the public interest - so people can speak out if they find malpractice in an organisation. Blowing the whistle is more formally known as ‘making a disclosure in the public interest’.
Qualifying disclosures are disclosures of information where the worker reasonably believes (and it is in the public interest) that one or more of the following matters is either happening, has taken place, or is likely to happen in the future.
A criminal offence
The breach of a legal obligation
A miscarriage of justice
A danger to the health and safety of any individual
Damage to the environment
Deliberate attempt to conceal any of the above.
If a worker is going to make a disclosure it should be made to the employer first, or if they feel unable to use the organisations procedure the disclosure should be made to a prescribed person, so that employment rights are protected.
Workers who ‘blow the whistle’ on wrongdoing in the workplace can claim unfair dismissal if they are dismissed or victimised for doing so. An employee’s dismissal (or selection for redundancy) is automatically considered ‘unfair’ if it is wholly or mainly for making a protected disclosure. From 25th June 2013 if a case goes to a tribunal and the tribunal thinks the disclosure was made in bad faith, it will have the power to reduce compensation by up to 25%.
From 29th July 2013 all Employment Tribunals and Employment Appeal Tribunals will be liable to pay a fee or an application for fee remission. Further information is available from Ministry of Justice - Employment Tribunal guidance.
A worker will have to show three things to claim PIDA protection:
that he or she made a disclosure
that they followed the correct disclosure procedure
that they were dismissed or suffered a detriment as a result of making the disclosure.
Acas Helpline
Call our Helpline on 0300 123 1100 for free support and advice or to check your workplace policies and practices. The Acas Helpline provides free and impartial advice for employers, employees and representatives on a range of employment relations, employment rights, HR and management issues."
steve the argonaut:
So it turns out the boss was onto this particulars drivers antics hence him asking me to download the units data so he could look at it asap.Get a call whilst driving back from Paris today, driver was using two cards, both his own - one in each slot and driving as double manned !!!
star driver! Brightest of the bunch 
Of course you should care, it could be your family coming the other way. Do you really need to say any more to the boss other than that you did as he asked, but would he mind checking through it because you weren’t happy you did it right and might have missed something? It will then be he who discovers whatever it is.
WTF is wrong with people nowadays, all this grassing and backstabbing makes me sick.
I’d have gone straight to the driver in question and marked his card that it was about to come on top.
Dirty no good grasses the lot of you, the bloke may have had a good reason to get home quickly, marriage problems, a sick kid etc etc etc.
He did a bit of extra driving, so what? How do you know anyone was put in danger?
Just because a committee in Brussels decided 10hrs a day us enough doesn’t mean SFA, I’ve done one hits all over the place for many different reasons and never killed myself or anyone’s wife and children.
Your boss is probably in cahoots anyway and just trying to weed out the squealers.
I would be annoyed to be involved in it and just said the software was playing up and needed looking at. Done right your arse would be covered and you have had the driver investigated at the same time.
The days of just turning a blind eye are long gone, just look at the dashcam footage we get. People love to pick faults with others to strengthen their own self worth.
What would you do if the driver was your best mate though…
steve the argonaut:
Just found out whilst downloading unit tacho’s for the boss that one of our drivers drove back from Berlin to Colchester using two cards !!Should I tell the boss ?
lol, what a pro. 
(that was said tongue in cheek) i’d defo tell the gaffer anyway as it’s his trousers they’ll be up for allowing it to happen. Quick slap in the face, a sternly worded letter 7 take 200 bob out of his wages 7 the cheeky monkey won’t do it again. 
F-reds:
It depends if compliance is YOUR job or not. If it is, then crack on and tell the gaffer. If it isn’t, then leave it alone, then person responsible for it, will tell the gaffer. Don’t worry about it.
this
steve the argonaut:
Downloaded from unit, uploaded to Tachomaster which analysis the data straight away.F-reds:
It depends if compliance is YOUR job or not. If it is, then crack on and tell the gaffer. If it isn’t, then leave it alone, then person responsible for it, will tell the gaffer. Don’t worry about it.Your right compliance is not my job, I’ll stay out of it.
Probly best. It isn’t that easy to interpret the data, trust me i’ve been doing it since 2006. Sometimes what you’re looking at may not mean what you think it means. Like say it’ll come out anyway, if it’s a half decent firm then I doubt enyone would be stupid enough to do that anwyay but…
mb14:
You think its ok for a driver to run bent and potentially fall asleep driving-then you just ignore it.
Who says he was tired?
I’d have a word with the driver first if I was sure then see what he said. There is no way the boss will not find out about this unless he is stupid (may be in on it) so I wouldn’t say anything to him unless the driver is a ■■■■ & is doing it regular under the bosses nose as that puts all your pay packets at risk.
Funny the polar opposites of opinion this type of thing always brings out, there’s no Grey areas for some people Aye? 
newmercman:
WTF is wrong with people nowadays, all this grassing and backstabbing makes me sick.I’d have gone straight to the driver in question and marked his card that it was about to come on top.
Dirty no good grasses the lot of you, the bloke may have had a good reason to get home quickly, marriage problems, a sick kid etc etc etc.
He did a bit of extra driving, so what? How do you know anyone was put in danger?
Just because a committee in Brussels decided 10hrs a day us enough doesn’t mean SFA, I’ve done one hits all over the place for many different reasons and never killed myself or anyone’s wife and children.
Woooa, calm down Geezer! I’m on your side dude but like as been said, this behaviour is frowned upon quite severely over here so it ain’t as cut & dried as both sides are making it out to be. There’s the whole firms wage packets to consider if the pain comes sniffing if he’s caught. He also if driving over regularly may very well injure someone or himself.
Perhaps he fell in love with some butch pro artic driver on the continent who offered to drive his rig back to blighty for him pre nuptual stylee. ROFL.
Wonder how long Johnny 2 cards has been doing this ? If it was for a while how come the regular digi inspector didn’t twig it ? It would seem just a matter of time till he was found out if he’s doing it all the time.
And just thinking like a T-NET CSI agent here, why did the Boss pick this particular time to have the digi cards inspected by someone else ?
Charles
remy:
And just thinking like a T-NET CSI agent here, why did the Boss pick this particular time to have the digi cards inspected by someone else ?
That’s what I wonder. Someone else usually downloads the units but because he is on holiday (or whatever) someone else is asked. Could it not just have waited till regular guy got back? Or he did it himself before he went?
Seems to me,in my humble opinion,that normal guy knew about johnny two-cards but was in same dilema regarding approaching him so passed the buck to the OP to be the guy who brings it up,then he can say X driver noticed something on your units print outs.
The-Snowman:
remy:
And just thinking like a T-NET CSI agent here, why did the Boss pick this particular time to have the digi cards inspected by someone else ?That’s what I wonder. Someone else usually downloads the units but because he is on holiday (or whatever) someone else is asked. Could it not just have waited till regular guy got back? Or he did it himself before he went?
Seems to me,in my humble opinion,that normal guy knew about johnny two-cards but was in same dilema regarding approaching him so passed the buck to the OP to be the guy who brings it up,then he can say X driver noticed something on your units print outs.
Two more who will never make TNCSI.
steve the argonaut:
So it turns out the boss was onto this particulars drivers antics hence him asking me to download the units data so he could look at it asap.
isaac hunt:
The-Snowman:
remy:
And just thinking like a T-NET CSI agent here, why did the Boss pick this particular time to have the digi cards inspected by someone else ?That’s what I wonder. Someone else usually downloads the units but because he is on holiday (or whatever) someone else is asked. Could it not just have waited till regular guy got back? Or he did it himself before he went?
Seems to me,in my humble opinion,that normal guy knew about johnny two-cards but was in same dilema regarding approaching him so passed the buck to the OP to be the guy who brings it up,then he can say X driver noticed something on your units print outs.Two more who will never make TNCSI.
steve the argonaut:
So it turns out the boss was onto this particulars drivers antics hence him asking me to download the units data so he could look at it asap.
I missed that dammit ! Guess i’ll never be a Special Agent 
Or even a crappy one for that matter 
charles
isaac hunt:
The-Snowman:
remy:
And just thinking like a T-NET CSI agent here, why did the Boss pick this particular time to have the digi cards inspected by someone else ?That’s what I wonder. Someone else usually downloads the units but because he is on holiday (or whatever) someone else is asked. Could it not just have waited till regular guy got back? Or he did it himself before he went?
Seems to me,in my humble opinion,that normal guy knew about johnny two-cards but was in same dilema regarding approaching him so passed the buck to the OP to be the guy who brings it up,then he can say X driver noticed something on your units print outs.Two more who will never make TNCSI.
steve the argonaut:
So it turns out the boss was onto this particulars drivers antics hence him asking me to download the units data so he could look at it asap.
So I didn’t read through all the previous posts and I missed the one where it was told the boss knew all along. Oh no,shoot me now
However,since I DIDNT know about it and yet still called it correctly I think that means my natural intuition would be important to any csi unit 
Silver_Surfer:
newmercman:
WTF is wrong with people nowadays, all this grassing and backstabbing makes me sick.I’d have gone straight to the driver in question and marked his card that it was about to come on top.
Dirty no good grasses the lot of you, the bloke may have had a good reason to get home quickly, marriage problems, a sick kid etc etc etc.
He did a bit of extra driving, so what? How do you know anyone was put in danger?
Just because a committee in Brussels decided 10hrs a day us enough doesn’t mean SFA, I’ve done one hits all over the place for many different reasons and never killed myself or anyone’s wife and children.
Woooa, calm down Geezer! I’m on your side dude but like as been said, this behaviour is frowned upon quite severely over here so it ain’t as cut & dried as both sides are making it out to be. There’s the whole firms wage packets to consider if the pain comes sniffing if he’s caught. He also if driving over regularly may very well injure someone or himself.
Perhaps he fell in love with some butch pro artic driver on the continent who offered to drive his rig back to blighty for him pre nuptual stylee. ROFL.
It’s always been frowned upon, by the authorities anyway
The trouble now is that too many people think they are the authorities 